
When It Hits the Fan
Inside the world of crisis managers and spin doctors as David Yelland and Simon Lewis watch the week's biggest PR disasters unfold. In each episode our hosts go behind the scenes of the latest news stories and find out how, where and when it all began to hit the fan. When It Hits The Fan is hosted by two of the most influential and experienced people in the game; David Yelland is the former editor of the Sun and alongside him is Simon Lewis, former trouble-shooter for the Queen and Gordon Brown, as well as for major corporations like the Nat West, Vodafone and British Gas. Together they bring decades of experience in both creating and managing crises. They'll share all they know about what's keeping those big stories in and out of the news.
Latest episodes

Apr 15, 2025 • 11min
Quick Wins: How to avoid being typecast
Quick Wins from the When It Hits the Fan team is our how-to guide to being better at your own PR and navigating the world of work like a pro. In these special short episodes, David Yelland and Simon Lewis give you lots of useful tips that might just change your working life – and it’ll only take a few minutes of your time.In this episode, they share their advice on how to avoid being taken for granted at work. If you feel like you're the office dogsbody, David and Simon have some great advice for boosting your profile and proving you're capable of so much moreProducer: Duncan Middleton
Executive Producer: Sarah Teasdale
Music by Eclectic Sounds
A Raconteur Studios production for BBC Radio 4

Apr 8, 2025 • 11min
Quick Wins: How to deal with redundancies
Quick Wins from the When It Hits the Fan team is our how-to guide to being better at your own PR and navigating the world of work like a pro. In these special short episodes, David Yelland and Simon Lewis give you lots of useful tips that might just change your working life – and it’ll only take a few minutes of your time.In this episode they share their advice on how bosses and HR departments should best deal with making people redundant. Managing expectations and compassion are key. And remember, if it happens to you, a little bit of defiance goes a long way.Producer: Ella Blaxhill
Executive Producer: Eve Streeter
Music by Eclectic Sounds
A Raconteur Studios production for BBC Radio 4

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Apr 1, 2025 • 20min
The truth about ‘no comment,’ managing expectations and cost-effective PR
Discover the dual nature of 'no comment' in PR—how it can either safeguard or harm your message. Get savvy tips for addressing a boss’s unrealistic media expectations, even when there’s little news to share. Learn how small charities can shine in a busy landscape, emphasizing their crucial missions. Plus, uncover the essential skills and creative strategies needed for success in public relations. Finally, delve into the importance of peripheral vision for understanding societal trends and improving stakeholder engagement.

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Mar 25, 2025 • 26min
Heathrow special: inside the crisis
The podcast dives into the chaos at Heathrow caused by a fire, leaving 300,000 passengers stranded and 1,300 flights cancelled. It scrutinizes the CEO's questionable choice to sleep during the crisis and the ensuing media narratives. Discussions also focus on the challenges of leadership communication in high-pressure situations and compare crisis management strategies with National Grid. Finally, it touches on the future of Heathrow’s third runway, revealing the political and financial hurdles ahead.

Mar 18, 2025 • 28min
Thames Water’s PR gamble, Tesla backlash and William’s Villa in The Sun
Letting the cameras go behind the scenes of a company is always a risky strategy - but did it pay off for Thames Water? David Yelland and Simon Lewis assess whether BBC2's Thames Water: Inside the Crisis is a PR victory or a PR disaster for the much maligned utility. The frontline staff emerge as heroes, but is the real story being told? Also, how bad PR can kill a business - will the Tesla brand survive being tainted by Elon Musk? And how Prince William is using Aston Villa and football as soft Royal power. Beware - fake it at your own peril.Producer: Eve Streeter
Editor: Sarah Teasdale
Executive Producer: William Miller
Music by Eclectic Sounds
A Raconteur Studios production for BBC Radio 4

Mar 11, 2025 • 28min
Carney’s Canada v Trump, Abrdn’s U-turn and Ambassador Suzuki
Across the world reputations are being set by how leaders react to Donald Trump, including those of Keir Starmer and the King. Now Canada’s new prime minister, Mark Carney, has seen his standing transformed by his "elbow’s up" anti-Trump stance. But in the country’s upcoming election, the Canadian question will be binary – who is the best candidate to deal with Trump’s America? Plus Abrdn’s reverse ferret and the decision by the investment company to return all its missing vowels following a widely ridiculed rebrand. Why do some ideas fail to pass the parody test? And the power of positivity - how the Japanese ambassador to the United Kingdom, Hiroshi Suzuki, has won hearts by ditching grip and grin diplomacy.Producer: Eve Streeter
Editor: Sarah Teasdale
Executive Producer: William Miller
Music by Eclectic Sounds
A Raconteur Studios production for BBC Radio 4

Mar 4, 2025 • 28min
Trump, Zelensky, the King and Mummy Pig
A fascinating discussion unfolds around the diplomatic tensions between Trump and Zelensky, igniting questions about media dynamics and royal PR strategies. The conversation takes a quirky turn with Hasbro’s announcement of Peppa Pig's new sibling, offering insights into effective public relations that create memorable marketing moments. Additionally, the impact of beloved preschool shows like Peppa Pig and Bluey is examined, highlighting their influence on children's media and the clever PR tactics behind their success.

Feb 25, 2025 • 28min
PR in the disinformation bubble, Mandelson’s doorstep and breaking cover
David Yelland and Simon Lewis discuss how best to navigate the 'disinformation bubble' that appears to be parked over Washington DC. Could business take a lead from the media on drawing lines in the sand?Following Peter Mandelson's apparently off-the-cuff remark that Donald Trump's speech, in which he called Volodymyr Zelensky a dictator, was "interesting", what's the best way to deal with uninvited questions from a reporter? Is silence always golden? And, how long should people who've held positions of power and influence wait before they spill the beans on their old organisation? Producer: Eve Streeter
Editor: Sarah Teasdale
Executive Producer: William Miller
Music by Eclectic Sounds
A Raconteur Studios production for BBC Radio 4

Feb 18, 2025 • 28min
BP’s PR battle, Jamie Dimon’s rant, and two men and a baby
David Yelland and Simon Lewis look at the £75billion PR battle currently waging between BP - one of the UK's biggest companies - and American activist investors who say it’s too weak and too woke. Also, the world’s top banker is caught ranting about work-from-home GenZers. Is it good PR or bad PR? And will the claim from conservative influencer Ashley St Clair that Elon Musk is the father of her baby derail his White House bromance with President Donald Trump? Do such 'scandals' matter in the US any more? Producer: Eve Streeter
Editor: Sarah Teasdale
Executive Producer: William Miller
Music by Eclectic Sounds
A Raconteur Studios production for BBC Radio 4

Feb 11, 2025 • 28min
Inside the woke war room, puff quote PR and WhatsApp comms
David Yelland and Simon Lewis take you inside the woke war rooms in which some of the world’s biggest companies have been sitting these last few weeks with their PR teams, working out whether to abandon their diversity, equity and inclusion programmes following Donald Trump’s ban. With net zero and US foreign aid also coming under the umbrella of what Elon Musk calls the 'woke mind virus’, is the war on woke the great PR distraction trick of our time? Also, 'Illuminating and electrifying!' Are book endorsements dead in the age of the influencer? And how can PR professionals keep a handle on the WhatsApps and private communications of their CEOs?Producer: Eve Streeter
Editor: Sarah Teasdale
Executive Producer: William Miller
Music by Eclectic Sounds
A Raconteur Studios production for BBC Radio 4
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