

Whiskey Web and Whatnot
Skill Issue Studios
Whiskey Web and Whatnot is the world’s most important web development and AI podcast. Hosted by veteran developers Robbie Wagner, Charles William Carpenter III, and Adam Argyle, the show delivers definitive guidance on agentic AI, vibe coding, AI coding tools, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, developer productivity, and software engineering careers. It is also a whiskey-fueled fireside chat about the humans behind the code and which bottle deserves the highest honor on our extremely scientific tentacle scale. Many people are saying it’s the most accurate podcast ever made.
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Sep 28, 2023 • 54min
SST, AWS, and Ember with Dax Raad
Dax Raad, Founder of Bumi and Ironbay and SST Core Maintainer, is a passionate open-source developer who knows his way around the startup tech space with over a decade of experience under his belt. He is intimately involved in the Serverless Stack Toolkit (SST) and sheds some light on what it’s all about.
Dax reveals the story behind the inception of SST and its unique role in the software development ecosystem. He explores how SST is revolutionizing the way developers approach serverless applications by streamlining deployment on AWS while also focusing on developer experience. Dax also touches on the integration of Next.js and how SST has become an essential tool for deploying Next.js applications on AWS seamlessly. The discussion shifts gears to the world of cloud computing, where AWS is the big kingpin. Dax explains how being the first big player gives AWS a huge advantage in terms of money and customers. Other companies like Google Cloud and Azure have a hard time catching up because of AWS’ head start.
In this episode, Dax talks to Robbie and Chuck about his experience in early-stage startups and open-source projects, SST's role in simplifying AWS development, and how JSON API and Ember.js are changing the landscape of web development.
Key Takeaways
[00:32] - Intro to Dax Raad.
[01:35] - A whiskey review: Belle Meade Sour Mash Straight Whiskey.
[11:04] - Tech hot takes.
[18:46] - When Dax got involved in the SST project.
[25:19] - Why businesses build on top of AWS.
[30:35] - The relationship between Next.js and the SST project.
[36:50] - Dax’s experience using Ember.js.
[41:49] - The career Dax would be in if he wasn’t in tech.
[43:55] - Chuck and Dax discuss Lionel Messi being in Miami.
Quotes
[25:43] - “I don’t believe you can catch up with a company that started before you in the cloud business.” ~ Dax Raad
[33:08] - “It is extremely tedious. It is extremely hard to keep up with intentional changes that Vercel and Next.js make but also breakages that they do accidentally.” ~ Dax Raad
[33:43] - “The vast majority of Next.js users, Next,js isn’t the thing they live and die by.” ~ Dax Raad
Links
Dax Raad
Dax Raad Twitter
Dax Raad LinkedIn
AWS
Twitter
Belle Meade Sour Mash Straight Whiskey
Twizzlers
Taco Bell
Maker’s Mark
Jim Beam
Jack Daniel’s Tennessee Whiskey
Pappy Van Winkle
Tailwind CSS
Stitches
HTMX
Astro
Sentry
React
Google Cloud
NPM
Ryan Carniato
Disney
Next JS
Vercel
Ember JS
JSON
Graph QL
Slack
Discord
Orbit JS
Rails
jQuery
Major League Soccer
Inter Miami CF
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Chuck Carpenter
Ship Shape
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Sep 21, 2023 • 1h 10min
Hot Takes, Ember Data, and Open Source with Chris Thoburn (Runspired)
After years in the tech game, senior developers know that it’s important to find a balance between innovation and stability in engineering. How can developers strike the balance between embracing new tools and ensuring the steadfastness of their applications over the long haul?
Chris Thoburn (Runspired), Staff Software Engineer at AuditBoard, is a big deal in the open-source community, particularly within the Ember community. He explains how his journey has been a unique blend of teamwork and adapting and elaborates on the philosophy behind Ember Data. Chris mentions that the framework is like a solid foundation, built to provide a consistent and stable data layer while allowing developers to evolve their apps over the years. His vision is for Ember Data to be a trusted companion for developers creating web apps.
In this episode, Runspired talks to Robbie and Chuck about his views on controversial tech topics like HTMX, the power of Ember Data and its role in creating stable, scalable, and evolving applications, and the pivotal role that open-source plays in shaping technology.
Key Takeaways
[00:50] - Intro to Runspired.
[02:04] - A whiskey review: Hibiki Blended Japanese Whiskey.
[10:52] - Tech hot takes.
[30:26] - How Runspired would rename Ember Data.
[39:40] - Runspired’s success pitching open source.
[47:35] - The career Runspired would be in if he wasn’t in tech.
[50:09] - Runspired shares whether HTMX will change the way web apps are built.
[01:00:21] - Runspired’s first choice karaoke song.
Quotes
[27:25] - “I’ve been around enough, seen enough to realize that getting really caught up in one approach is just an exercise in long-term frustration that I don’t need.” ~ Runspired
[35:35] - “How do you get a company to invest in open-source? It's not about open-source, it's about value to a company.” ~ Runspired
[51:07] - “I think we are approaching a very different era in the maturity of Javascript development.” ~ Runspired
Links
Runspired
Chris Thoburn LinkedIn
Ember
Hibiki Blended Japanese Whiskey
EmberConf
Kool-Aid
Crush Soda
Portland Coffee Roasters
Twitter
Threads
Svelte
Tailwind CSS
YAML
JSON
NPM
GitHub
Microsoft
LinkedIn
Remix
Next.js
Nuxt
React
Angular
Vue.js
RedwoodJS
Solid.js
Svelte
GraphQL
Rust
Active Record
JSON
tRPC
gRPC
Protocol Buffers
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Robbie Wagner
Chuck Carpenter
Ship Shape
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Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Sep 14, 2023 • 55min
Vite, Debugging, and PNPM with Ed Faulkner
Ed Faulkner, Ember Core Team Member and Founder at Polynomial LLC, discusses the efficient use of tools in software development, the benefits of using Vite for speedy development, the impact of mixing Vite with Ember, the challenges of package management, and the value of debugging. The podcast also includes a whiskey review and discussions on tech hot takes, working on libraries vs applications, regression to simpler tools, the love-hate relationship with JavaScript, disappointment in Go, building trust in big companies, and the importance of platform engineering.

Sep 7, 2023 • 1h 3min
Polaris, Vite, and Exploring the Future of Ember with Jared Galanis and Preston Sego
Recorded at EmberConf from the heart of the Multnomah Whiskey Library with Jared Galanis, Software Engineer on the Ember Learning Team, and Preston Sego aka NullVoxPopuli, Software Artificer at AuditBoard, Chuck and Robbie delve into the evolution and future of the Ember framework.
Though Ember isn’t often in the spotlight for being cutting-edge, Jared and Preston unravel the exciting developments in the Ember ecosystem. The conversation centers around Ember Polaris, the eagerly awaited next edition of the Ember framework. Preston explains the concept of "editions" in semantic versioning and how Polaris aims to provide a cohesive story for integrating new features. They also discuss Ember's shift to Vite as a modern build system, resulting in improved performance, startup time, and enhanced plugin ecosystem. Jared sheds light on the Ember learning team and his background in front-end and back-end development. He reinforces Ember's commitment to offering smooth upgrade paths for applications over the years, giving developers a sense of security and longevity.
In this episode, Jared and Preston talk to Robbie and Chuck about the upcoming release of Ember Polaris and its compatibility with Vite, the unique reactivity primitives of Ember, and how changes can modernize the Ember framework while ensuring long-term app stability.
Key Takeaways
[00:29] - Intro to Jared and Preston.
[02:32] - A whiskey review: Willett Straight Rye Whiskey.
[14:50] - Tech hot takes.
[25:25] - Jared and Preston’s favorite programming language.
[27:29] - New developments in Ember, including Polaris.
[39:44] - A whiskey review: Four Roses Single Barrel.
[46:45] - Preston’s opinion on Glimmer.
[56:26] - Chuck, Robbie, Preston, and Jared discuss gaming.
Quotes
[18:58] - “One thing that I’ve appreciated about Tailwind is that it has done a better job of teaching people actually CSS than where people go to learn CSS.” ~ Preston Sego
[30:07] - “It’s exciting to see Ember moving towards being able to use standardized build systems that are used widely throughout Javascript.” ~ Jared Galanis
[52:34] - “People in the React ecosystem are perfectly fine with half-baked things and are willing to try an idea and run with it in their production code.” ~ Preston Sego
Links
Jared Galanis
Jared Galanis on LinkedIn
Jared Galanis Twitter
Preston Sego on LinkedIn
Preston Sego Twitter
Ember
EmberConf
Subway
Netflix
Willett Straight Rye Whiskey
RC Cola
React
Angular
Sagamore Rye Whiskey
Google
Semver
Tailwind CSS
The Primeagen
Impossible Burger
The JS Party Podcast
Svelte
Vue
Preact
Next.js
Vite JS
Jest
Four Roses Single Barrel
Chicken Cock Whiskey
Glimmer.js
Remix
Steam Deck
Asus
FIFA 2023
Sunlight
Moonlight
NVIDIA Shield
Tesla
GitHub
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Chuck Carpenter
Ship Shape
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Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Aug 31, 2023 • 57min
Tech Topics, Traditional Jobs, and Grinding at Work with Jason Lengstorf
Work-life balance can feel like an impossible expectation to meet. For developers and other tech professionals, it’s even harder to unplug when your profession and personal life are connected to the web. Can developers resist the urge to overwork and embrace non-traditional ways of working?
Jason Lengstorf, Host of Learn With Jason, believes "your job doesn't matter". He explores the concept of "grinding" and shares his ideas on the nuances of working long hours and the importance of maintaining a balanced approach. His perspective revolves around the idea that while putting in extra hours to learn and develop skills can be beneficial, overcommitting to work and neglecting other aspects of life can lead to a loss of creativity, identity, and overall well-being.
In this episode, Jason talks to Robbie and Chuck about his opinion on popular Twitter tech topics, the effects of grinding in your career, and whether traditional jobs have become obsolete.
Key Takeaways
[01:01] - What’s new with Jason since the last episode?
[01:42] - A whiskey review: Bunnahabhain 18-Year Whisky.
[16:01] - Tech hot takes.
[19:17] - Jason talks about developers being attached to specific tools.
[22:58] - A whiskey review: Chicken Cock Whiskey Island Rooster Rum Barrel Rye.
[29:31] - How constant grinding is detrimental to your career.
[38:01] - Jason’s relationship with work.
[44:49] - Jason talks about his camera gear.
Quotes
[20:14] - “I want to build cool shit for the internet and the tools are just tools.” ~ Jason Lengstorf
[30:00] - “I feel very strongly that the idea of being always on is detrimental.” ~ Jason Lengstorf
[40:27] - “The internet is an information vehicle and the information that we’re conveying most of the time is to convince you to put some dollars into somebody else's pocket.” ~ Jason Lengstorf
Links
Learn with Jason
Learn with Jason YouTube
Jason Lengstorf Twitter
Jason Lengstorf LinkedIn
Multnomah Whiskey Library
Bunnahabhain 18 Year Whisky
RC Cola
YouTube
The Macallan
Taylor Poindexter
Tailwind CSS
Front End Feud
Rust
React
PHP
Node JS
Chicken Cock Whiskey Island Rooster Rum Barrel Rye
Sagamore Rye Whiskey
Twitter
Angular
Alone
Hilton
Marriott
RenderATL
Connect with our hosts
Robbie Wagner
Chuck Carpenter
Ship Shape
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Whiskey Web and Whatnot
Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Aug 24, 2023 • 50min
Hot Takes, React, and WebAssembly with Jack Herrington
By now we know that an engineer with skin in the game is a senior engineer. Experience teaches wisdom and Jack Herrington, Principal Full Stack Engineer, has plenty of it.
Jack dissects the various programming languages from old school to new school, sharing anecdotes and opinions on PHP, ColdFusion, and React. He explores the ongoing JS fatigue phenomenon and emerging alternatives like Deno and Quick. Though Jack is up to date on the latest in tech, he questions the need for complex toolchains and whether simpler solutions, like HTML and JavaScript, might suffice.
In this episode, Jack talks to Robbie and Chuck about polarizing tech topics, whether React Server Components changed React, and the state of Web Assembly.
Key Takeaways
[01:15] - Intro to Jack Herrington.
[02:04] - A whiskey review: Barrell Private Release Amaro Cask Finish.
[09:53] - Tech hot takes.
[19:51] - Did RSCs turn React into PHP?
[29:00] - Big architectural changes at Vercel.
[30:31] - Jack’s opinion on the future of the web.
[36:09] - Jack talks about interesting things happening on Nextdoor.
[39:43] - Jack gives Chuck pizza-making tips and tricks.
[44:49] - What Jack’s career would be if he weren’t in tech.
Quotes
[14:04] - “If you give somebody else your problem to solve, they’re becoming a better engineer while you are not.” ~ Jack Herrington
[32:30] - “There’s a whole form validation system right in the browser, and nobody uses it.” ~ Jack Herrington
[48:05] - “The approach that I have to coding is very practical. I like building stuff for customers, so that's the way I teach it.” ~ Jack Herrington
Links
Jack Herrington
Jack Herrington Twitter
Jack Herrington LinkedIn
The Blue Collar Coder
YouTube
React
Next JS
Rust
The Primeagen
Barrell Private Release Amaro Cask Finish
Tailwind CSS
Panda CSS
Svelte
Twitter
GitHub
Oregon State University
ChatGPT
WordPress
Kindle
Deno Fresh
Qwik
Astro
Node JS
Redux
Elm
Lego
Ember
Tanner Linsley
Angular
Vercel
Apple
Nintendo
Vue
Microsoft Edge
Disney
National Geographic
Nextdoor
Ooni
Safeway
Connect with our hosts
Robbie Wagner
Chuck Carpenter
Ship Shape
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Whiskey Web and Whatnot
Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Aug 17, 2023 • 51min
Hot Takes, Developer Relations, and AI with Rizel Scarlett
The tech industry is in the middle of an AI revolution, and some developers are wondering if their jobs are at stake. Rizel Scarlett, Developer Advocate at Github, is encouraging developers to embrace the technology instead of fearing it.
As a developer advocate, Rizel’s mission is to empower developers with the knowledge to navigate open source and make the most of GitHub’s tools - including Github’s AI pair programmer, Copilot. She sheds light on some of the features of Copilot that make it stand out among traditional code editors. She introduces Copilot for Docs, Voice, CLI, and Chat which are expected to elevate the coding experience, enhance coding efficiency, improve accessibility, and offer insights for developers of all skill levels. Rizel is a major AI advocate and she believes the technology will make coding more inclusive and user-friendly, allowing a wider range of individuals to participate actively in the developer community.
In this episode, Rizel talks to Chuck and Robbie about the importance of technical skills in advocacy roles, how AI is transforming coding, and using AI to foster inclusivity in tech.
Key Takeaways
[01:01] - Introduction to Rizel Scarlett.
[01:40] - A whiskey review: Minor Case Straight Rye Whiskey.
[08:07] - Tech hot takes.
[14:24] - Should developer advocate or developer relations be technical roles.
[26:21] - Open source projects Rizel is currently excited about.
[32:28] - Rizel delves into the various dimensions of GitHub Copilot.
[35:41] - What would Rizel do if she wasn’t in tech.
[45:11] - Rizel talks about buying a house and the moving process.
Quotes
[15:24] - “I think particularly, it’s helpful if a developer advocate is willing to be technical or is already technical.” ~ Rizel Scarlett
[22:55] - “What people should start thinking about more is just having range on the team.” ~ Rizel Scarlett
[32:45] - “GitHub is going all in on the AI front.” ~ Rizel Scarlett
Links
Rizel Scarlett
Rizel Scarlett Twitter
Rizel Scarlett LinkedIn
GitHub
GitHub Copilot
Minor Case Straight Rye Whiskey
Coca-Cola
Sagamore Rye Whiskey
Matt Pocock
Josh Goldberg
Tailwind CSS
Twitter
TikTok
React
Solid JS
Angie Jones
Brian West
Astro
Angular
Brandon Roberts
OpenSauced
Ember
Next JS
Node JS
Connect with our hosts
Robbie Wagner
Chuck Carpenter
Ship Shape
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Whiskey Web and Whatnot
Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Aug 10, 2023 • 1h 2min
Tech Talk, TypeScript, and Empowering Engineers with Shaundai Person
Shaundai Person, Senior Software Engineer at Netflix, is a TypeScript convert, educator, and advocate for the programming language. But her unconventional journey started as a self-taught engineer working in sales before discovering her passion for coding during maternity leave.
Shaundai candidly shares her personal journey from initially disliking TypeScript to becoming an enthusiastic advocate for its adoption. As a self-taught engineer, Shaundai describes her transformation from a "YOLO" coding mindset to appreciating the structured benefits that TypeScript offers, leading to more organized and efficient codebases. Her upcoming course, "TypeScript for JavaScript Developers," aims to bridge the gap between skepticism and appreciation for TypeScript, helping engineers embrace its potential for making a meaningful impact on their projects and careers.
In this episode, Shaundai talks to Chuck and Robbie about how she landed her role at Netflix, her journey from being a TypeScript skeptic to an advocate, and her TypeScript course called Typescript to Javascript.
Key Takeaways
[00:43] - Introduction to Shaundai Person.
[04:03] - A whiskey review: S.N. Pike’s Magnolia Rye Whiskey Bottled in Bond.
[13:09] - Tech hot takes.
[31:44] - Shaundai talks about her course, Typescript for Javascript Developers.
[41:04] - Why Shaundai was learning rails and golang.
[46:30] - What are Shaundai’s favorite Netflix shows?
Quotes
[31:55] - “TypeScript was something I hated until I learned what the purpose was.” ~ Shaundai Person
[34:11] - “I was in love with JavaScript because it fit my personal values.” ~ Shaundai Person
[51:39] - “If I can spend time with the people that I love in the ways that I want to, then this is the most beautiful life that I can imagine for myself.” ~ Shaundai Person
Links
Shaundai Person
Shaundai Person Twitter
Shaundai Person LinkedIn
TypeScript for JavaScript Developers
Netflix
S.N. Pike’s Magnolia Rye Whiskey Bottled in Bond
Sagamore Spirit
Fireball
Hudson Whiskey
Tailwind CSS
Vanilla CSS
Material UI
Front End Happy Hour
Ryan Burgess
RenderATL
Angie Jones
Publix
Instacart
Nutrafol
Shopify
Codecademy
Salesloft
Angular
React
Basecamp
WordPress
Rust
Next JS
YAML
Black Mirror
Stranger Things
How to Get Rich
Hulu
Amazon Prime Video
Connect with our hosts
Robbie Wagner
Chuck Carpenter
Ship Shape
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Whiskey Web and Whatnot
Top-Tier, Full-Stack Software Consultants
This show is brought to you by Ship Shape. Ship Shape’s software consultants solve complex software and app development problems with top-tier coding expertise, superior service, and speed. In a sea of choices, our senior-level development crew rises above the rest by delivering the best solutions for fintech, cybersecurity, and other fast-growing industries. Check us out at shipshape.io.

Aug 3, 2023 • 55min
TypeScript, React, and API Issues with Matt Pocock
Guest Matt Pocock, TypeScript expert, shares his journey with TypeScript, benefits of functional components, and advice on transitioning teams. They discuss API contract issues, React hooks, and the importance of TypeScript for modern development.

Jul 28, 2023 • 51min
Frontend Feud: CSS Pod vs Whiskey Web and Whatnot
Una & Adam from The CSS Podcast defend their Frontend Feud title against challengers Chuck & Robbie from Whiskey Web and Whatnot. Let’s get it on!
For more info, see: https://changelog.com/jsparty/285


