Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Web Development, Neat

This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Naman Goel about the origins and evolution of StyleX, how it integrates with React and other frameworks, and the pros and cons of different programming languages like Rust, TypeScript, and Swift. They dive into the challenges of building performant, type-safe styling systems, the surprising complexity of theme APIs, designing for developer experience, and more. In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (02:26) - Whiskey rating & review: Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch (09:13) - South Park, spy thrillers & sleeper hits you missed (11:20) - Flow vs TypeScript (14:59) - How CSS shaped Naman’s perspective on type systems (18:45) - How StyleX works—and why it’s different from Tailwind (21:02) - Tailwind Merge vs StyleX props: performance smackdown (22:16) - Real-world use case: when and why you’d want to merge styles (25:45) - Inside the making of StyleX and its powerful theming system (32:56) - Robbie and Adam wrangle Vue transitions in Astro (36:09) - GIF or JIF? SPA or “spa”? (40:36) - Building StarPod.dev: streaming audio across pages (42:30) - Can you reduce client-side router noise? (46:03) - Should you spec your idea or just blog it? (47:18) - Naman’s journey into writing web specs (48:44) - What is link delegation? (52:39) - Hot Take: Is Rust overrated? (01:02:17) - The dream language Naman wishes someone would build (01:04:57) - Are AI-generated programming languages just around the corner? (01:05:53) - A spicy take on CSS syntax and readability (01:06:27) - Is CSS finally catching up to StyleX? (01:07:43) - Plugs & where to follow Naman Links Glenfiddich 12 Year Old single malt Scotch: https://shop.us.glenfiddich.com/products/glenfiddich-12-year-old South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park Dungeons & Dragons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_&_Dragons Alien Earth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien:_Earth Ozark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozark_(TV_series) Jason Bateman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Bateman Black Rabbit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rabbit Slow Horses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses Slow Horses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Horses Typescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ StyleX: https://stylexjs.com/ React: https://react.dev/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ SolidJS: https://www.solidjs.com/ Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ Vue: https://vuejs.org/ Astro: https://astro.build/ QuickJS: https://github.com/quickjs-ng/quickjs Ember: https://emberjs.com/ Angular: https://angular.dev/ Vanilla Extract: https://vanilla-extract.style/ Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/ PHP: https://www.php.net/ Figma: https://www.figma.com/ Theme UI: https://theme-ui.com/ Stitches: https://stitches.dev/ Starpod.dev: https://starpod.dev/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/ Livewire: https://laravel-livewire.com/ Jason Miller - Application Holotypes: A Guide to Architecture Decisions: https://jasonformat.com/application-holotypes/ morphdom: https://github.com/patrick-steele-idem/morphdom HTMX: https://htmx.org/ React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/ CSS-Tricks: https://css-tricks.com/ Swift: https://www.swift.org/ Python: https://www.python.org/ C++: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp Go: https://go.dev/ esbuild: https://esbuild.github.io/ OCaml: https://ocaml.org/ Prettier: https://prettier.io/ Haskell: https://www.haskell.org/ Elm: https://elm-lang.org/ CoffeeScript: http://coffeescript.org/ LightningScript: https://lightningscript.dev/ Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/ Chris Coyier: https://x.com/chriscoyier React Summit: https://reactsummit.com/ Solenoid: https://github.com/nmn/solenoid Connect with Naman Website: https://nmn.sh/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/naman34 Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/nmn.bsky.social Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie, Chuck, and Adam talk about the worst whiskey they’ve tasted, Tailwind as a “state management library,” and recent security scares in open source. Also — dependency hygiene, developer visa drama, and whether inflated tech salaries are finally being reckoned with. In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (02:14) - Whiskey rating & review: Evan Williams Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey (13:00) - What's with all the recent web dev security issues? (28:39) - Is Tailwind secretly the worst state management library? (32:45) - Visa chaos: H-1Bs, gold cards, and reverse immigration (40:51) - Are tech salaries being intentionally driven down? (49:45) - Adam’s AI experiment with Claude + Parallelize (54:09) - Why AI should specialize (and stop trying to do everything) (54:44) - Best AI tools right now (01:01:16) - Chuck’s VPN chaos + funny wifi names (01:04:04) - Plugs Links GoDaddy: https://www.godaddy.com/ Bob Parsons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Parsons Intuit: https://www.intuit.com/ Evan Williams Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey: http://evanwilliams.com/straight-bourbon Wrigley Chew: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrigley_Company Bazooka: https://www.bazookajoe.com/ Juicy Fruit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juicy_Fruit Cinnamon Toast Crunch: https://www.cinnamontoastcrunch.com/ Jack Daniel's: https://www.jackdaniels.com/ Crown Royal Black: https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black Suntory World Whiskey Ao: https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky Fresca Mixed: https://www.frescamixed.com/ All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/ Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/ JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript Ruby: https://www.ruby-lang.org/ NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/ GitHub: https://github.com/ Blockchain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain pNPM: https://pnpm.io/ Ransom: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117438/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/ WordPress: https://wordpress.org David Cramer: https://x.com/zeeg Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/ Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/ SemVer: https://semver.org/ Google: https://www.google.com/ Snowpack: https://www.snowpack.dev/ Socket.io: https://socket.io/ Guillermo Rauch: https://x.com/rauchg Socket.dev: https://socket.dev/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ David K Piano: https://x.com/DavidKPiano Tesla: https://www.tesla.com/ Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ OpenAI: https://openai.com Amazon: https://amazon.com Jason Lengstorf: https://x.com/jlengstorf Perl: https://www.perl.org/ Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/ Cobol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL Jarred Sumner: https://x.com/jarredsumner Bun: https://bun.com/ Zig: https://ziglang.org/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ Codex: https://openai.com/codex/ Opencode: https://opencode.ai/ Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/ Ep 92: Hot Takes, Bun, and Zig with Jarred Sumner: https://whiskey.fm/hot-takes-bun-and-zig-with-jarred-sumner Neovim: https://neovim.io/ Bolt: https://bolt.new/ Lovable: https://lovable.dev/ Spec Kit: https://github.com/github/spec-kit South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park Proton VPN: https://protonvpn.com/ HBO Max: https://www.hbomax.com/ Raspberry Pi: https://www.raspberrypi.com Stephen King: https://stephenking.com/ Cujo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cujo Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/ Starpod.dev: https://starpod.dev/ Como FC: https://comofootball.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Kevin Powell about the quirks and complexities of CSS, from Tailwind and Flexbox to AI’s failure to write decent styles. While sipping some Crown Royal Black, they dig into weird web history, emerging CSS specs, toast milestones, and the beauty of clean code. In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (02:51) - Whiskey rating & review: Crown Royal Black (07:54) - Hot Take: Is CSS a programming language? (09:54) - Hot Take: Was CSS-in-JS a mistake? (10:53) - Hot Take: Grid vs Flexbox (12:31) - Hot Take: Tailwind vs vanilla CSS? (16:05) - Kevin's favorite place to write CSS (17:45) - What CSS feature scares Kevin the most? (19:20) - Kevin's first CSS pre-processor (22:40) - CSS features that are taking too long to ship (27:22) - text-box-trim vs margin-trim (29:53) - Why attr() is a game-changer for CSS (31:18) - NPM package chaos and security concerns (32:16) - The “billion laughs” CSS attack (33:19) - Why can't AI write CSS? (36:52) - Wake-and-bake? Kevin’s sourdough & kombucha hobby (38:42) - Kevin’s homebrewing and water shortage woes (40:28) - Hobbies, football, and making time for fun (42:44) - What would Kevin do if not in tech? (44:41) - Kevin's favorite CSS typo (45:58) - Rebuilding Tailwind from scratch (46:53) - Vanilla CSS vs. Tailwind: Who wins a coding race? (50:08) - Plugs Links Crown Royal Black: https://www.crownroyal.com/canadian-whisky/crown-royal-black All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/ General Musings: https://www.youtube.com/@GeneralMusings Frontend Masters: https://frontendmasters.com/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/ JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript Figma: https://www.figma.com/ CSS Grid: https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_grid.asp Flexbox: https://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_flexbox.asp Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ Grok: https://grok.com/ CodePen: https://codepen.io/ VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com Emmet: https://emmet.io/ Vue: https://vuejs.org/ Saas: https://sass-lang.com/ Stylus: https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ CoffeeScript: http://coffeescript.org/ Sarah Soueidan: https://twitter.com/SaraSoueidan Shepherd: https://www.shepherdjs.dev/ NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/ Swatch: https://swatch.dev/ Colorzilla: https://www.colorzilla.com/ TinyColor: https://bgrins.github.io/TinyColor/ CrowdStrike: https://www.crowdstrike.com/ Ember: https://emberjs.com/ GitHub: https://github.com/ Chris Coyier: https://x.com/chriscoyier Virginia Tech: https://www.vt.edu/ The Eagles: https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ Saquon Barkley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley Adam Wathan: https://x.com/adamwathan/ Kevin on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/kevinpowell Connect with Kevin Website: https://www.kevinpowell.co/ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/kevinpowell.co Courses: https://www.kevinpowell.co/courses/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam talk with Dave "Macho Man Randy Standards" Rupert about whiskey, web culture, and the quirks of building side projects. They dive into the shifting landscape of the web—AI-driven development, spec-driven workflows, RSS’s decline, and the joy (and pain) of creative tinkering. In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(03:21) - Whiskey rating and review: Suntory World Whiskey Ao(16:30) - Is the open web in decline?(17:16) - How we search and learn in 2025(22:31) - Discovering Strudel(24:44) - Dave’s Strudel vibe-coding experiment(27:15) - The promise and limits of AI in programming(28:39) - Getting into spec-driven development(34:11) - The pain of publishing apps(36:51) - Weird camera quirks across platforms(40:19) - Could you code on a horse?(41:35) - Voice-based vibe-coding(42:45) - Making coding approachable for kids(45:54) - Side hustles and money outside tech(52:04) - Dave's shoutout to Storybook(58:49) - Plugs Links ShopTalk Show: https://shoptalkshow.com/ Suntory World Whiskey Ao: https://house.suntory.com/ao-whisky Jim Beam Pineapple: https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple Descript: https://www.descript.com/ Taco Bell Chili Cheese Burrito: https://www.tacobell.com/newsroom/taco-bell-rewinds-to-the-2000s-with-decades-y2k-menu-featuring-iconic-fan McDonald's McRib: https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/mcrib.html Pringles: https://www.pringles.com/ JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript Astro: https://astro.build/ Vue: https://vuejs.org/ Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ Mitosis: https://github.com/BuilderIO/mitosis React: https://react.dev/ SolidJS: https://www.solidjs.com/ Trent Walton: https://trentwalton.com/ CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ Google Amp: https://developers.google.com/amp Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/ The Verge: https://www.theverge.com Google Amp: https://developers.google.com/amp Kottke: https://kottke.org/ GitHub: https://github.com/ Strudel: https://strudel.cc/ Lincoln Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/ Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot Bolt: https://bolt.new/ Lovable: https://lovable.dev/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Deloitte: https://www.deloitte.com/ Intel: https://www.intel.com/ Coder: https://coder.com/ Kiro: https://kiro.dev/ Peppeteer: https://pptr.dev/ Electron: https://www.electronjs.org/ MacOS: https://www.apple.com/macos/ Linux: https://www.linux.org/ Fuji: https://global.fujifilm.com/ Lomography: https://www.lomography.com iPad: https://www.apple.com/ipad/ Vim: https://www.vim.org/ Warp Code video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3jFHfIvyf8 Pico 8: https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php Lua: https://www.lua.org/ COBOL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL Spike LEGO Education: https://spike.legoeducation.com/ South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park Jeff Bezos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos Elon Musk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk Home Depot: https://www.homedepot.com/ Hassle Free Home: https://myhasslefreehome.com/ Storybook: https://storybook.js.org/ Brad Frost: https://x.com/brad_frost Riverside: https://riverside.com/ FAST: https://fast.design/ Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/ Notion: https://www.notion.com/ All Thing Open: https://2025.allthingsopen.org/ Connect with Dave Website: https://daverupert.com/ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/davatron5000.bsky.social Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Chuck and Adam talk about flavored whiskeys, offbeat experiments, and the chaos of tech culture. They discuss AI workflows, Warp vs. IDE debates, and the realities of coding culture, from bleeding-edge hype to WordPress drudgery. Plus, Chuck shares updates on life in Italy. In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (03:33) - Whiskey rating and review: Jack Daniel's Tennessee Apple and Honey (13:57) – Experimenting with mixing whiskeys (18:16) – Honey on the rim: a sweet idea? (19:15) – Food, culture, and Chuck’s life in Italy (28:44) – FOMO on agents and AI hype (31:32) – Current AI workflows (32:04) – Warp Code update and its bizarre promo video (37:27) – IDEs vs. plugins: what’s the future? (44:29) – Chuck and Adam on their current jobs Links Jack Daniel's Tennessee Apple: https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-apple Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey: https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/tennessee-honey MythBusters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters Jim Beam Pineapple: https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple Wild Turkey American Honey: https://www.americanhoney.com/ Hudson House Distillery: https://www.thehudsonhouseny.com/ Burt Bacharach: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Bacharach Mike's Hot Honey: https://mikeshothoney.com/ Claude Code: https://claude.com/product/claude-code Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ LM Studio: https://lmstudio.ai Mac Mini: https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/ Opencode: https://opencode.ai/ Dax: https://x.com/thdxr/ Warp Code: https://www.warp.dev/blog/introducing-warp-code-prompt-to-prod Zed: https://zed.dev/ WordPress: https://wordpress.org Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/ Joomla: https://www.joomla.org/ JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/ BMW: https://www.bmwusa.com/ Tesla: https://www.tesla.com/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Remix: https://remix.run/ React: https://react.dev/ Darknet Diaries: https://darknetdiaries.com/ Jack Rhysider: https://x.com/jackrhysider All Thing Open: https://2025.allthingsopen.org/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Ali Diamond about her journey through tech, cybersecurity, and community building. They sip tequila, swap hot takes on programming languages and developer culture, and dig into the realities of junior engineering paths, DevRel’s evolution, and how passion—not tools—shapes meaningful work. In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (02:39) - Tequila rating & review: Espolon Tequila Blanco (13:46) - From tequila to other favorite drinks (16:11) - Hot Take: Why junior engineers should focus on - fundamentals (18:57) - Hot Take: MacOS or Linux? (22:25) - Ali’s take on Linux flavors (and her own twist) (25:22) - Hot Take: Is DevRel really dead? (27:28) - Software developer vs. software engineer: does it matter? (31:45) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel (35:14) - The shrinking path for junior developers (47:34) - Life outside coding: Ali’s passions and projects (54:34) - Ali’s journey into tech and family background (57:40) - Plugs & where to find Ali online Links Espolon Tequila Blanco: https://www.espolontequila.com/ Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/ Java: https://www.java.com/ Lua: https://www.lua.org/ Spindrift: https://drinkspindrift.com/ Costco: https://www.costco.com All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/ The Net Gala: https://x.com/_thenetgala 1942 Tequila: https://www.donjulio.com/our-tequilas/don-julio-1942-tequila Clase Azul: https://claseazul.com/ Fresca Mixed: https://www.frescamixed.com/ LaCroix: https://www.lacroixwater.com/ Diet Coke: https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/diet-coke Monster: https://www.monsterenergy.com/ Celsius: https://www.celsius.com/ Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/ Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/ MacOS: https://www.apple.com/macos/ Linux: https://www.linux.org/ Andriod: https://www.android.com/ iPhone: https://www.apple.com/iphone/ Vim: https://www.vim.org/ VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/ Omarchy: https://omarchy.org/ DHH: https://x.com/dhh/ Arch Linux: https://archlinux.org/ Debian: https://www.debian.org/ Ubuntu: https://ubuntu.com/ Kali: https://www.kali.org/ Twitch: https://twitch.tv CactusCon: https://www.cactuscon.com/ Ep 114: Privacy, Cyber Crime Stories, and Tech with Jack Rhysider: https://whiskey.fm/privacy-cyber-crime-stories-and-tech-with-jack-rhysider Laravel: https://laravel.com/ PHP: https://www.php.net/ Scala: https://www.scala-lang.org/ Guillermo Rauch: https://x.com/rauchg Vercel: https://vercel.com/ Taylor Otwell: https://x.com/taylorotwell Walmart: https://www.walmart.com/ WordPress: https://wordpress.org React: https://react.dev/ LeetCode: https://leetcode.com/ NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/ Mark Zuckerberg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg Mad Money: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Money Bill Gates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/ Kubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/ YAML: https://yaml.org/ Smiski: https://smiski.com/ Brandon Sanderson: https://www.brandonsanderson.com/ Game of Thrones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones Lore Olympus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lore_Olympus Webtoon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webtoon Invincible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_(TV_series) The Boys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series) Burning Man: https://burningman.org/ Coachella: https://www.coachella.com/ Nine Inch Nails: https://www.nin.com/ Go: https://go.dev/ MIT: https://www.mit.edu Pokemon Go: https://pokemongolive.com/ Stanford University: https://www.stanford.edu/ UC Berkeley: https://www.berkeley.edu/ Harvard University: https://www.harvard.edu/ Connect with Ali Website: https://ali.dev/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/endingwithali Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/endingwithali YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hak5 Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam talk about JavaScript trends, from the overuse of hooks to frameworks chasing sameness, and why Cracker Barrel’s rebrand feels like a frontend metaphor. They dive into tech nostalgia, from retro consoles to old-school LAN parties, and debate AI’s role in therapy and modern workflows. In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (01:09) - Whiskey rating & review: WhistlePig Small Batch Rye (05:48) - Growing plants and bottom watering (09:43) - Robbie’s dog dental woes (11:40) - Pet insurance frustrations (16:59) - Is Cracker Barrel a JavaScript framework? (19:09) - Do people create negative attention on purpose? (20:59) - Fashion flashbacks: JNCOs, scene kids, and pajamas (23:38) - Retro gaming consoles and analog nostalgia (27:17) - Evergreen updates vs. LAN party days (30:18) - Hot Take: Can ChatGPT be your therapist? (34:24) - What Robbie and Adam are watching (39:05) - Parenting in the digital age (40:58) - Framework overload, naming struggles, and AI tools (45:35) - What's exciting about fall this year (49:10) - Football and the stock market (54:03) - Gardening and plant hacks (56:12) - Halloween plans Links WhistlePig Small Batch Rye: https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/ Sagamore Spirit: https://sagamorespirit.com/ Cracker Barrel: https://www.crackerbarrel.com/ JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript Otis Spunkmeyer: https://www.otisspunkmeyer.com/ Donald Trump: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump JNCO: https://jnco.com/ Target: https://www.target.com/ Stussy: https://www.stussy.com/ Wu Wear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan#Clothing_line Hot Topic: https://www.hottopic.com/ Commodore 64: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64 Nintendo: https://www.nintendo.com/ Mini NES: https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Entertainment-NES-Classic-Controller-Included/dp/B07P875QTN Mini SNES: https://www.amazon.com/SNES-Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Entertainment-System/dp/B073BVHY3F Mini Sega Genesis: https://asia.sega.com/genesismini/ Analogue: https://www.analogue.co/ Nintendo: https://www.nintendo.com/ Mario Kart World: https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev 8BitDo: https://www.8bitdo.com/ Playstation: https://www.playstation.com/ Switch 2: https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/ Super Mario Odyssey: https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/ Halo: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo/ South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/ Today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_(American_TV_program) The Last of Us: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_of_Us_(TV_series) Bluey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluey_(TV_series) AFV: https://www.afv.com/ Mickey Mouse Clubhouse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_Clubhouse Rolie Polie Olie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolie_Polie_Olie Toy Story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_Story Star Wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars Jurassic Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park The Force Awakens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens The Mandalorian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian The Book of Boba Fett: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_Fett Andor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series) Lego Star Wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Star_Wars Skeleton Crew: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_Crew Jude Law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Law CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ Qoder: https://qoder.com/ Kiro: https://kiro.dev/ Amazon: https://amazon.com Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Saquon Barkley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley Chipotle: https://www.chipotle.com/ Sum 41: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sum_41 Clues by Sam: https://cluesbysam.com/ Connect with the hosts Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Adam talk about CascadiaJS, Adam’s new role at Shopify, and why tech interviews are so broken. They explore accessibility in front-end dev, the sameness of modern frameworks, and whether AI is the future of engineering or just another hype cycle. In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (02:46) - Whiskey rating & review: Jim Beam Pineapple (07:00) - CascadiaJS preview + speaker lineup (13:27) - Adam's new role at Shopify (20:47) - Are React hooks officially dead? (21:41) - The dev interview process is broken + interview tips (31:01) - Gradient.style (35:09) - Hot Take: no more React clones (36:53) - Adam's OpenAI interview and NPM nightmares (40:03) - AI and the future of web development (52:06) - Dial-up is dead (53:39) - Physical vs. digital media (1:00:39) - Cracker Barrel’s makeover Links Jim Beam Pineapple: https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple Taylor Swift: https://www.taylorswift.com/ Travis Kelce: https://x.com/tkelce New Heights: https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow Jim Beam Pineapple: https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/ Vue.js: https://vuejs.org/ Carter Rabasa: https://carter.rabasa.com/ IBM: https://www.ibm.com/ Slack: https://www.slack.com/ Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/ CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ Kevin Whinnery: https://www.kevin.mn/ Deno: https://deno.com/ OpenAI: https://openai.com/ ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/ Charlie Gerard: https://charliegerard.dev/ Annie Sexton: https://bsky.app/profile/anniesexton.com Shruti Kapoor: https://shrutikapoor.dev/ React: https://react.dev/ Big Sky Dev Con: https://bigskydevcon.com/ All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/ Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/ Vercel: https://vercel.com/ Ep 194: Static, Dynamic, Generative: What’s Next for the Web? w/ Guillermo Rauch: https://whiskey.fm/static-dynamic-generative-whats-next-for-the-web-w-guillermo-rauch LeetCode: https://leetcode.com/ Michael Jackson: https://x.com/mjackson Remix: https://remix.run/ React: https://react.dev/ Knockout: https://knockoutjs.com/ Discord: https://discord.com HTML: https://www.w3schools.com/html/ Adam's resume: https://nerdy.dev/resume Gradient.style: https://gradient.style/ Colorzilla: https://www.colorzilla.com/ Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ Wes Bos: https://wesbos.com/ Kiro: https://kiro.dev/ Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/ Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ Zed: https://zed.dev/ Fireship: https://www.youtube.com/@fireship Shepherd: https://www.shepherdjs.dev/ Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/ Adam's LLM chat prototype: https://nerdy.dev/llm-chat-prototype NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/ Alanis Morissette: https://alanis.com Lex Fridman: https://lexfridman.com/ ASAP Rocky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAP_Rocky Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/ Lincoln Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park Austin Powers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Powers Sonos: https://www.sonos.com/ Google Home: https://home.google.com/welcome/ Beyond Tellerrand: https://beyondtellerrand.com/ Teenage Engineering K.O. II: https://teenage.engineering/store/ep-133 Elvis Presley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley Final Fantasy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy Cracker Barrel: https://www.crackerbarrel.com/ Logan's Roadhouse: https://logansroadhouse.com/ Connect with Adam Website: https://nerdy.dev/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/argyleink Connect with Chuck and Robbie Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Typecraft and Robert Jackson about everything from Japanese rice whiskey to the future of software engineering. They dig into Robert’s open source journey, his insights on MCP and AI, and whether frameworks will remain relevant in an LLM-driven world. They also explore how AI changes the way new developers learn, the importance of systems thinking, and why open source sharpens both technical and soft skills. In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (02:19) - Whiskey rating & review: Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask (14:09) - Hot take: GPT-5 vs Claude Sonnet 4 (22:34) - Framework computers and modular desktops (29:37) - How open source shapes careers (36:25) - Will frameworks survive the rise of AI code? (46:53) - Kids and tech (47:51) - The great Buffalo Wild Wings detour (49:16) - How Robert turned fitness into a priority Links Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask: https://ohishiwhisky.com/ Ember: https://emberjs.com/ MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/ 30 Rock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Rock Alec Baldwin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/ Claude: https://claude.ai/ Opus: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/ GitHub: https://github.com/ Neovim: https://neovim.io/ Arch Linux: https://archlinux.org/ Apple: https://apple.com Ollama: https://ollama.com/ DHH: https://x.com/dhh/ Ruby on Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/ Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/ Buffalo Wild Wings: https://www.buffalowildwings.com/ Hot Ones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones McDonald's: https://www.mcdonalds.com/ MyFitnessPal: https://www.myfitnesspal.com/ MacroFactor: https://macrofactorapp.com/ Connect with Typecraft Website: https://typecraft.dev/ X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_dev Connect with Robert Website: https://www.rwjblue.com/ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rwjblue.com Connect with Chuck and Robbie Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

Live from Big Sky Dev Con, Robbie is joined by Aaron Francis, Ken Wheeler, and Typecraft to discuss HTML and CSS programming status, React’s future, app security failures, NPM’s weak spots, content creation hooks, survival tech fantasies, and balancing big tech ambitions with family life.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(00:55) - Whiskey rating and review: Undammed Distilling Co. Shields River - Single (Malt ) -Whiskey(03:52) - Is HTML a programming language?(05:30) - Is CSS a programming language?(06:34) - Will classes make a comeback in React?(10:02) - The Tea app fiasco(15:10) - When NPM flags critical code as malicious(20:36) - Turning technical know-how into content people actually want(26:32) - One piece of tech to survive in the Montana wilderness(29:37) - Balancing family life, content creation, and work(35:06) - The pros and cons of working from home(38:49) - Predicting the tech debates of 2030(45:59) - One piece of advice you wish you’d been givenLinksAaron Francis: https://x.com/aarondfrancisKen Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/Typecraft: https://typecraft.dev/Undammed Distilling Co.: https://undammedspirits.com/HTML: https://www.w3schools.com/html/JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScriptCSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/HTMX: https://htmx.org/Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/React: https://react.dev/Michael Jackson's tweet about React Hooks: https://x.com/mjackson/status/1937979887815692465PHP: https://www.php.net/Vercel: https://vercel.com/Remix: https://remix.run/Firebase: https://firebase.google.com/Stripe: https://stripe.com/Twilio: https://www.twilio.com/Stylus: https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylusNPM: https://www.npmjs.com/MIT: https://www.mit.eduTea: https://www.teaforwomen.com/Numerical Recipes: https://numerical.recipes/Numerical Recipes: https://numerical.recipes/Google: https://www.google.com/Linux: https://www.linux.org/Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/Mark Twain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_TwainSQLite: https://www.sqlite.org/Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/WeChat: https://www.wechat.com/iPhone: https://www.apple.com/iphone/MapQuest: https://www.mapquest.com/Verizon: https://www.verizon.com/Apple Maps: https://www.apple.com/maps/Google Maps: https://translate.google.com/Meta Quest 3: https://www.meta.com/quest/quest-3/Replit: https://replit.com/Adam Wathan: https://x.com/adamwathan/DHH: https://x.com/dhh/Taylor Otwell: https://x.com/taylorotwellTailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/The Go-Giver by Bob Burg: https://www.amazon.com/Go-Giver-Expanded-Little-Powerful-Business/dp/1591848288Connect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.