Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Web Development, Neat Error 500: Our Lives
Aug 7, 2025
57:05
This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about whiskey on Mondays, parenting chaos, and Chuck’s hot-water disaster. They dive into open-source dependency drama, including the Stylus package getting flagged as malicious, and the TEA app’s massive data leak. They question the stability of NPM, the illusion of software licensing security, and the ethics of data deletion. They also explore how AI is transforming development workflows—sometimes usefully, sometimes hilariously wrong.
In this episode:
- (00:00) - Intro
- (01:07) - Whiskey review & rating: Catoctin Creek Roundstone Rye Whiskey
- (08:15) - Robbie’s domestic chaos & Chuck’s plumbing nightmare
- (13:55) - The Stylus debacle and the fragility of NPM
- (19:05) - Insurance headaches, contractor woes, and house stress
- (25:16) - Mac Minis, podcast metrics, and behind-the-scenes
- (29:09) - Europe drinks better than we do
- (30:37) - Tea's data breach
- (35:33) - Using AI for real-world dev problems (and plumbing fixes)
- (43:01) - Your data is never really deleted
- (46:23) - Why podcast metrics are kind of a scam
- (47:44) - Big Sky Dev Con live episode
- (49:28) - Chuck’s moving to Italy
- (50:09) - Jedi Survivor, Destiny 2, and gaming on the road
- (55:37) - Plugs
Links
- Catoctin Creek Roundstone Rye Whiskey: https://catoctincreekdistilling.com/roundstone
- Rittenhouse: http://heavenhilldistillery.com/rittenhouse-rye.php
- Copper Fox Distillery: https://www.copperfoxdistillery.com
- Dax: https://x.com/thdxr/
- AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/
- HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/
- IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
- Sagamore Spirit: https://sagamorespirit.com/
- Stylus: https://www.npmjs.com/package/stylus
- npm 'accidentally' removes Stylus package, breaks builds and pipelines: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/npm-accidentally-removes-stylus-package-breaks-builds-and-pipelines/
- Tea: https://www.teaforwomen.com/
- Tea encouraged its users to spill. Then the app's data got leaked: https://www.npr.org/2025/08/02/nx-s1-5483886/tea-app-breach-hacked-whisper-networks
- NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
- Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/
- CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
- JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
- npm left-pad incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Npm_left-pad_incident
- FakerJS: https://fakerjs.dev/
- David Cramer: https://x.com/zeeg
- MIT: https://www.mit.edu
- Granted insurance: https://www.grantinsurance.com/
- 7-Eleven: https://www.7-eleven.com/
- Accenture: https://www.accenture.com/
- Opera Mini: https://www.opera.com/mini
- DHH: https://x.com/dhh/
- Lex Fridman Podcast: https://lexfridman.com/podcast/
- Mac Mini: https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/
- Ember: https://emberjs.com/
- Big Sky Dev Con: https://bigskydevcon.com/
- HTMX: https://htmx.org/
- Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink/
- Typecraft: https://typecraft.dev/
- iPhone: https://www.apple.com/iphone/
- Firebase: https://firebase.google.com/
- SQL: https://www.mysql.com/
- Supabase: https://supabase.com/
- Postgres: https://www.postgresql.org/
- Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/
- Claude: https://claude.ai/
- Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/
- TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
- Vercel: https://vercel.com/
- Shepherd: https://www.shepherdjs.dev/
- Cypress: https://www.cypress.io/
- Playwright: https://playwright.dev/
- React: https://react.dev/
- ART19: https://art19.com/
- Malort: https://malort.com/
- Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagen
- Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/
- Jedi Survivor: https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-survivor
- Jedi: Fallen Order: https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/jedi-fallen-order
- Switch 2: https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/
- Destiny 2: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/destiny
- Indiana Jones and the Great Circle: https://indianajones.bethesda.net/en-US
- Tears of the Kingdom: https://zelda.nintendo.com/tears-of-the-kingdom/
- FIFA: https://www.fifa.com/
- Breath of the Wild: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild
- Mario Kart World: https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev
- Donkey Kong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Kong
- Ocarina of Time: https://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time
- Anagram: https://danabra.mov/
- George Clooney: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney
- Elon Musk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
- Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
- Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
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