
The New Rules of Business
On the “New Rules of Business,” Chief Co-Founders Carolyn Childers and Lindsay Kaplan join the brightest minds in business and academia to unravel complex trends and challenge preconceived notions of what leadership should look like. Learn how to lead when the old rules just don’t apply.
Latest episodes

Feb 7, 2023 • 36min
Is the “Move Fast and Break Things” Approach to Business Over?
The “move fast and break things” strategy is broken. What’s next? How can we manage incoming threats without sacrificing speed and innovation? In this episode, Lindsay talks with veteran astronaut and former Director of NASA’s Johnson Space Center Dr. Ellen Ochoa about how leaders can take smarter risks in a volatile business environment. This is the last episode of Season 3 of the New Rules of Business. Stay tuned for Season 4 coming soon, and subscribe now, so you never miss an episode.

Jan 31, 2023 • 32min
Why Even Geniuses Fail to Make Rational Decisions
We make 2,000 decisions every hour of the day. Of course, they can’t all be perfect. But if you’re in the leadership seat, falling into a thinking trap at a crucial decision point can have devastating consequences. In this episode, Carolyn talks with Woo-Kyoung Ahn, Yale Professor and author of Thinking 101, about how executives can gain competitive advantage by understanding and avoiding the most prevalent cognitive errors.

Jan 24, 2023 • 27min
Why Executives Should Start Asking, “How Are You, Really?”
Eighty seven percent want mental health support from their employers — and not just through policy. Beyond expensive benefits, the answer to solving the mental health crisis in offices today could be asking one simple question. On this episode, Carolyn and Lindsay talk to Amy Gilliland, President of General Dynamics Information Technology, about how she radically changed the conversation on mental health in the defense industry and how executives need to act now — before it’s too late.

Jan 17, 2023 • 35min
Will Banning Affirmative Action Kill Corporate DEI?
While corporate America pats itself on the back for DEI programs, one of the most impactful levers for achieving racial justice and equality is about to be dismantled. In this episode, Carolyn talks with Dr. Khiara Bridges, Professor of Law at Berkeley, about the business consequences of banning affirmative action and what leaders must do to drive real progress on diversity, equity, and inclusion

Jan 10, 2023 • 35min
Out With the Tech Bros, In With the Empath Leaders
With much of the business world in a tailspin, we’re all hungry for a new model of leadership — because the old ones just don’t work. In this episode, Carolyn talks with Julia Boorstin, senior correspondent at CNBC and author of "When Women Lead", about why women leaders have the qualities needed for long-term, sustainable business success.

Jan 3, 2023 • 24min
Why Re-Entry Programs Are the Real DEI Initiative
Most companies are committed to preventing discrimination against people of different ethnicities, genders, and abilities. But what about those with resume gaps? Two out of three people have experienced a break in their careers, but the stigma remains. In this episode, Lindsay and Carolyn talk with Jennifer Carpenter, Vice President of Talent Acquisition and Executive Search at IBM, about what business stands to gain by changing the conversation around career gaps.

Dec 20, 2022 • 32min
What Does Executive Presence Look Like on Zoom?
Executive presence takes years to cultivate, but it shows up in a millisecond. That’s especially true in the modern workplace, where each rapid-fire email presents an opportunity to make or break your credibility. In this episode, Carolyn talks with communications expert Erica Dhawan about how to lead with authenticity and empathy in the digital work environment.

Dec 13, 2022 • 27min
Can You Get Ahead Without Being a Workaholic?
Overwork is literally killing us, with long hours and workplace stress contributing to nearly one million deaths per year. But can we really afford to give it up? Dr. Stephanie Creary, Professor at the Wharton School of Business, says we can — and we must. In this episode, Lindsay talks with Stephanie about how the cult of workaholism and how to break the cycles of overwork for yourself and your team.

Dec 6, 2022 • 28min
Is Pursuing Productivity a Mistake?
Productivity is tanking, and executives are scrambling for solutions to boost output. But what if continually cranking up the dial isn’t actually getting us anywhere? Is it finally time to replace this 250-year-old metric of ‘success’? On this episode, Carolyn and Lindsay talk to Laetitia Vitaud, author and speaker on the future of work, about the hidden costs of the pursuit of productivity.Continue the conversation on LinkedIn and, if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at Chief.com.

Nov 29, 2022 • 27min
Is Non-Promotable Work Killing Your Career?
Every business has non-promotable tasks — like proofing other people’s work, taking notes, and mentoring others — that need to get done by someone. Most of the time, that someone is a woman. In this episode, Lindsay talks with Dr. Lise Vesterlund, co-author of the No Club, about the burden of non-promotable work and what to do about it.Continue the conversation on LinkedIn and, if you’re interested in joining the Chief network, apply to be a member at Chief.com.
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