
Transformative Principal
Jethro Jones interviews instructional leaders from around the nation to learn and teach what it takes to become a transformative principal. Episodes address topics like Response to Intervention (RTI), Multi-Tiered System of Support (MTSS), Positive Behavior Interventions and Supports (PBIS), the latest advances in educational research, standards-based grading, and interviews with industry leaders like Bill Daggett, Rick Wormeli, Todd Whitaker and even people outside the education like Seth Godin, JeVon McCormick, Liz Wiseman, and more.
Latest episodes

Sep 22, 2019 • 24min
The Conrad Challenge Changed My Life with Akhil Jariwala Transformative Principal 297
Akhil is the business development manager at ChargePoint, a fast-growing start-up in the San Francisco Bay Area that provides electric vehicle charging solutions to businesses. Prior to ChargePoint, he spent 5 years in the clean tech and consumer mobile app spaces. Akhil is an alumnus from the 2010 Conrad Challenge, where his finalist team from the North Carolina School of Science and Math designed a latticed pod system that generated electricity from wave energy using internally-housed piezoelectric ceramics. Register for the Conrad challenge here * North Carolina School of Science and Mathematics * Didn’t know what I wanted to do. * Always wanted to be a doctor and ended up doing a ton of work in environmental areas. * Starting out with very little information. * Students start from two different places. * 1. Technology they are really excited about. * 2. We have a group of students really passionate about a specific problem and start to ideate about how to solve that problem. * We knew we wanted to build a wave energy device. * Knew nothing about piezoelectric ceramics. * Spent hours learning about the physics behind the technology. * Chemistry professor - her job was keeping us accountable. * What has changed since you did Conrad Challenge? * Shifted from focus on medicine to product management. * Conrad in college admissions process. * Spoke about the spirit of creativity. * most capable people I’ve ever known. Still in touch with many of them today. * I discovered my purpose. It challenged me to be a change-maker! * Group of students created a device to put out fires by sound waves in forests. * We champion no-box thinking. * How to be a transformative principal? Embrace divergent thinking.
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Sep 15, 2019 • 32min
Mentoring Millennials with Jayme Hull Transformative Principal 296
Jayme Hull helps schools and churches make millennial friendly environments. She also mentors millennials so that they can be successful. Check out her free resource for principals at her web site. They want to be connected and work somewhere they can make an impact. They have heard their parents talk about how bored or angry they are at work. Very few parents and grandparents were actually happy. The fear of change is strong! Millennials don’t even have the choices like they had in the past. More than 50% cannot stay where they grew up to find work. Completely consumed with staying up on the digital happenings are. They have to be learning or they’ll lose their jobs. You give and you receive. Build a relationship first. Mentorships are really beneficial for millennials. Care about the person first, not what you can get from them. We’ve forgotten how to encourage our new teachers. Make sure they have downtime Their deepest heart’s desire is to have a desire. The millennial are a gift to us. They are demanding that we get back to what we used to do. We have forgotten how to teach what is essential. Mentoring program - The older generation will be blessed. Don’t tack on any more paperwork or extra hours. 2 kinds of mentors - someone on staff willing to pour into the next generation. Group of retired teachers. Never more than 30 minutes for 6–12 weeks. Their words and encouragement. Millennials are so tired of being on a checklist. It’s not about the nail How to be a transformative leader? Look three teachers in the eyes and tell them thanks! Face to face mentoring podcast.
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Sep 8, 2019 • 45min
Choosing College with Michael Horn Transformative Principal 295
Michael Horn is the co-founder of the Clayton Christensen Institute and author of Blended and Disrupting Class, and the new book coming out this week called “Choosing College!”, which is the book we are talking about today! The book is about more than just choosing college, right? Tell me about that. There are a few stats about college that are just appalling, so many people not finishing, so much debt. Why do we still support it? boost in wages, employers require it. military or college! Personally fulfilling A lot of people don’t know. What language do people use to describe what they did. A lot more students should be taking a gap year. Working on the newspaper in high school. Let’s talk about quality assurance. I hear people give advice that it doesn’t matter at all where you go or what you major in. What’s the value I’m getting from this experience? We don’t have enough data while we do have too much data! I am not a historian, even though my major was history. We don’t know what we don’t know. We have to give kids experiences about what they can be doing. Make it tangible with an emotional connection. Give kids immersive experiences in those fields so they can see themselves in that setting! Do your strengths and abilities allow you to get into that field? Learning starts with engagement. What do you think about something like Lambda school, which doesn’t offer a degree, but rather a skill, and you don’t pay for that? More than a coding bootcamp. Might ultimately replace college. Purdue university has an income share agreement. University of Utah. Traditional top universities are going to continue to drive up costs. Price competition among universities. understanding your “why” is important. Understanding what progress looks like for you. Find out what you want and work backwards. Not seeing distinct spheres but rather integrated parts of our lives. Kids look more at what you say than what you do. Loves this from the Forbes’ piece: “Because no one understands the precise mix of what external supports cause student outcomes to improve, a theory of innovation—the theory of interdependence and modularity—suggests that schools must integrate to control every critical component of a student’s life that isn’t “good enough” to ensure academic achievement. In other words, when driving toward greater performance with moving parts that are unpredictably interdependent, in order to do anything, schools must do nearly everything.” “From the vantage point of our theory, it appears one of the reasons for City Connect’s success is that its school-based coordinator starts with the teacher and each student’s academic goals. That is, the organization integrates the supports it provides in a tight, interdependent manner with each teacher and around the needs of each individual student in a personalized way—not in a tiered way that treats cohorts of students judged to have similar risk profiles in the same way.” Much to love about the personalized approach, Let’s play to your strengths and support you in your weaknesses. How to be a transformative principal? Principals ought to step back and ask, how do I integrate more authentic experiences?
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Sep 1, 2019 • 26min
You Changed My Life With Brad Barber Transformative Principal 294
Brad Barber is a former business owner who is now an educator who founded a school called the Tesla Academy. At the Tesla Academy, they coach students rather than teach them. We are an academy, not a school. Agnostic about the school kids attend, it just needs to be good. We can react very quickly and give support to kids. We diagnose their problems. Sometimes they take notes to impress someone else. When you get into the business world, you have to learn really rapidly. Why would kids want to come to the Tesla Academy? It feels so weird to do something different. There’s a generation gap in parents: younger parents totally get it. How to be a transformative principal? My model could really take off in special education. My model would work perfect with 20-40 students.
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Aug 25, 2019 • 24min
The Tesla Academy with Brad Barber Transformative Principal 293
Brad Barber is a former business owner who is now an educator who founded a school called the Tesla Academy. At the Tesla Academy, they coach students rather than teach them. * Business process outsourcing. * Went back to school as a teacher. * Started at a charter school. * Not the primary person who delivers the content. * Education is so inefficient. * I can teach it, but I want my students to learn how to learn. * The difference between a coach and a teacher. * They’ve been surviving school for 9 or 10 years. * The teachers become babysitters (in other classes) and that’s not what we’re about. * We’re observing the entire time. * Kids understand that the technique wasn’t right
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Aug 18, 2019 • 37min
Creating Motivated Students with Dr. Grayson Maas Transformative Principal 292
Dr. Grayson Maas is the Director of Communications for the Art of Problem Solving, a unique solution to teaching math anytime, anywhere. Motivated students in grades 2–12. We are the place students come to to learn math that they aren’t going to learn in school. Instill motivation in kids to want to do math. By and large math is traditionally taught with an emphasis on procedures, memorizing, and pattern matching. We are losing the art and beauty of mathematics by how we teach math in schools. We challenge them and ask them to rise to the occasion. We give them puzzles. We get a flood of serotonin when we solve problems. It’s not wrong to have the wrote, it’s wrong if that’s all you have. If you don’t move beyond the basics, you won’t be able to apply it later. If you take a problem-solving approach… We need to carve out time for kids to be uncomfortable with a problem. But how do we make time for that? It limits the incentive for kids to take intellectual risks. We can do this together. Education doesn’t just have to be teachers in a classroom alone. There’s a dissatisfaction because there is still a lingering question about how I would have done that. Rigorous activities early on! ASTE Keynote How to be a transformative principal? Carve out time and space for students to do some thinking without a goal in mind! gmaas@aops.com
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Aug 11, 2019 • 29min
Creating Better Learning Environments with Kevin Stoller Transformative Principal 291
Creating Better Learning Environments with Kevin Stoller Transformative Principal 291 Social Media: Every school has defined their vision, the space should reflect that. Over the past 10 years, Kevin has visited over 1,000 schools and spoke with educators and students to learn how student outcomes are impacted by the learning environment. As CEO of Kay-Twelve, a company committed to improving learning environments for 10,000,000 students, Kevin wants to share his findings with others involved with education. Came from a family of educators. Hesitant to get into education furniture business because it was all the same. If you’re implementing change, it’s really difficult to do without changing the environment. Start small, learn from it, and then make the changes needed. The furniture is preventing me from doing it. It’s not about the furniture. Every school has defined their vision, the space should reflect that. Need to establish some rules around chaotic furniture. Space can have a big impact on driving change. Start with shared spaces. Flex seating or student choice seating. Get your free copy of “Creating Better Learning Environments” How to be a transformative principal? Find a network where you can be talking to other people. Join the mastermind Schedule a call with Jethro Are you feeling like you are always behind at school? Do you feel like you need about 2 more hours each day to accomplish everything? Here’s how I help principals work manageable hours: Create your ideal week, so that you can leave work at work and enjoy your life! Please take a moment to rate this podcast in iTunes or on Stitcher. Please follow me on Twitter: @jethrojones for the host and @TrnFrmPrincipal for the show. Buy Communication Cards Show notes on TransformativePrincipal.com Download Paperless Principal. Take Control of your email Web Site Transformative Principal on Stitcher Refer A Principal Best Tools for Busy Administrators Survey
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Aug 4, 2019 • 30min
Communicating to Create Happy Families with Jennifer Larson Transformative Principal 290
Communicating to Create Happy Families with Jennifer Larson Transformative Principal 290 Social media: If you have a good communication system and everyone is engaged, there’s a positive buzz to the school. Jennifer Larson is he co-founder and CEO of Hive Digital Minds, which provides parent-school communication solutions through schoolbzz.com Completely overwhelmed Couldn’t keep up. Shift towards personalized learning means there are a lot of different adults supporting a student. “I don’t even read the newsletter anymore.” Parents want to know what the two or three places for information. Grades communication is an important part of it as well. School website is a great marketing tool to recruit students, teachers, and families to your school. Figure out what information you want to share with the public and put that on the web site. Find tools that work well for your enrolled families. Build a communication strategy that gets information to the families quickly and efficiently. Do a communication audit to see what you are currently using. Which have information that parents might want access to. Need to implement a multi-year strategy. Talk to your parents. When schools jump into parent engagement, they are probably meeting the needs of those who were already having their needs met. Challenges around native languages spoken. Focus on mobile. Recognize that not all parents can be there physically at the school. Parent engagement is about making sure the families understand the value of education. Volunteer hours. Parents want to be engaged but they don’t know how. If you have a good communication system and everyone is engaged, there’s a positive buzz to the school. If you have happy families at your school, there is no other better testimonial. How to be a transformative principal? It all comes down to communication. Connect with each of your staff members and parents. Schedule a call with Jethro Are you feeling like you are always behind at school? Do you feel like you need about 2 more hours each day to accomplish everything? Here’s how I help principals work manageable hours: Create your ideal week, so that you can leave work at work and enjoy your life! Please take a moment to rate this podcast in iTunes or on Stitcher. Please follow me on Twitter: @jethrojones for the host and @TrnFrmPrincipal for the show. Buy Communication Cards Show notes on TransformativePrincipal.com Download Paperless Principal. Take Control of your email Web Site Transformative Principal on Stitcher Refer A Principal Best Tools for Busy Administrators Survey
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Jul 28, 2019 • 17min
Taking Care of Teachers with Danielle Nuhfer Transformative Principal 289
Danielle Nuhfer is a teacher who helps other teachers focus on self-care and you can find more information about her at teachingwell.life Teacher for 16 years. Not sure she was going to go back to teaching. Second burnout at year 10. Sabbatical in 2015 and 2016. What led to the second burnout. Lots of additional work responsibilities being taken on. Hard saying no to things. Reframe the No. “Let me say no for now.” Summer of Self-Care. - Deep dives into self-care What teachers need to start doing: Burnout and stress is common, but it doesn’t have to be normal. How we feel begins with us. Nothing needs to change, but everything can change when we change. How to be a transformative principal? Start with yourself. What can you do to take care of yourself? Back to School Bundle - Stress care solutions, how to get a 40-hour workweek, and more!
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.

Jul 21, 2019 • 14min
How My Son Overcame Social Anxiety Without Medication Transformative Principal 288
My wife told me she just couldn't do it anymore. "It's too hard," she said. "Every time I drop him off, the tears, the yelling, and the crying. I just can't take him to school anymore. We've got to figure something out." We had talked about different things, from counseling to medication to other options. For the time being, our solution was that I would drop him off at school. For some reason, his reactions to his anxiety seemed to be less when dad dropped him off. Any parent who has experienced this knows how difficult it is to deal with the intensity of the emotions on a daily basis. This was especially challenging for me, because I struggled with this as well. All the way until I was 19, any new change was especially difficult. My heart broke for him every day, because I knew how powerless he felt. When he started kindergarten, we were living on a small island in the gulf of Alaska, and the community didn’t have the resources to offer a lot of help. We did all kinds of things to try and help, meditation apps, calming techniques, praying, blessings, and more, and nothing really seemed to work. When we moved to Fairbanks, we were ready to get more serious, but then he took care of this himself. Before I get to what actually happened, let me back up a bit. I read a book when I was 21 called “Write it down. Make it Happen.” Actually, I think I just read the first chapter or so. That was all I needed. It talks about the power of writing things down to make them come to fruition. Well, I wrote down a bunch of goals that I wanted to accomplish when I turned 30, and guess what? I accomplished them all. I’ve been a big believer in goals for a long time, and this really solidified what I knew. So, I decided to start setting goals with my family each week. My four kids would set their own goals every week, and my wife and I would set our goals. We share them with each other and track them on a piece of paper. Eventually, that has now grown into yearly and monthly goals we set with each other, and help hold each other accountable. Back to my son. We had set goals as a family for a couple years, and after we moved to Fairbanks, he started taking an interest in setting meaningful goals for himself. It started with little goals. We are pretty strict that we don’t tell the kids what goals they should set, but rather help them set their own goals. So, my son spent some time setting little goals like play with certain toys each day, or do his chores when he first got up, or play Minecraft. Then, one day, it happened. “My goal this week is to go to school without complaining.” My wife and I looked at each other in stunned silence. For over two years, this had been a battle, and now, he was saying he wasn’t going to complain. We played it cool, and said, “Good goal. Let’s see how it goes.” Honestly, we didn’t think he would do it. But sure enough, he got out of the car on Monday, without a single complaint. And each day after that, he has done the same. I’m not going to lie, having some AMAZING teachers who really cared about him and helped him has been a really powerful experience. But the thing that really made the difference has been him setting his own goal to be in control of his life. Get our goal sheet from OurFamilyCoach.com
Join the Transformative Mastermind Today and work on your school, not just in it. Apply today. We’re thrilled to be sponsored by IXL. IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:Simplify and streamline technologySave teachers’ timeReliably meet Tier 1 standardsImprove student performance on state assessments🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.