
That Triathlon Show
That Triathlon Show is the podcast for triathletes of all levels who want to train smarter and race faster. With over 600 episodes and millions of downloads since 2017, this show cuts through the noise and misinformation, delivering practical, no-nonsense advice rooted in both the art and science of training and performance.
The podcast features in-depth interviews with the world’s best coaches, top sports scientists, and elite athletes. Each episode dives into the nuances of training methodology, performance optimization, and race-day execution, providing insights you can apply right away. Whether you're preparing for a supersprint or an Ironman, or focusing on a single sport like swimming, cycling, or running, you'll find expert guidance and relevant content here.
The podcast is hosted by Mikael Eriksson, a former engineer now coaching professional and age-group athletes. Mikael is a Level III certified coach with over a decade of experience in coaching.
Join a global community of dedicated triathletes and take your performance to the next level. Learn more at www.scientifictriathlon.com/podcast.
Latest episodes

Feb 3, 2025 • 1h 27min
Anna Kiesenhofer - Olympic Champion | EP#454
Anna Kiesenhofer, Olympic Champion in the women's road race at Tokyo 2021, is a self-coached athlete and mathematician. She shares her unique training methods and the challenging balance between cycling and her math career. Anna discusses overcoming burnout, Olympic race strategies, and innovative heat training techniques. She dives into her self-coaching journey, explaining the shift to a more intuitive, enjoyable approach. Additionally, she offers valuable tips for amateur cyclists, emphasizing personalization in training and the significance of mental preparation.

Jan 27, 2025 • 1h 36min
Lance Watson - coach of Olympic Champion Simon Whitfield | EP#453
Lance Watson, a highly experienced triathlon coach, has guided elite athletes like Olympic champion Simon Whitfield. He shares his coaching methodology, emphasizing task progression and the mental strategies that fueled Whitfield’s success at the Sydney Olympics. The discussion dives into adapting training for busy age-group athletes, optimizing performance despite life’s demands. Watson also highlights the evolution of coaching with technology and continuous learning while sharing practical tips for swim, bike, and run improvements.

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Dec 27, 2024 • 1h 8min
Information, decision making, training and technology | EP#452
Guest Michael Liberzon, host of the Endurance Innovation Podcast, dives into the complexities of endurance sports. He discusses the critical evaluation of information and how to navigate misinformation on social media. Liberzon emphasizes the importance of understanding metrics' validity and accuracy, especially in tech like running power meters. He also delves into the DIKW pyramid, advocating for transforming data into actionable wisdom for better decision-making in training. Alongside this, he highlights the value of personalized coaching and community insights.

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Dec 20, 2024 • 60min
Workout Design: How to Individualise Intensity Targets | EP#451
In this episode we discuss how you can move beyond basing workouts on arbitrary percentages of thresholds. You will learn how to individualise your intensity targets to your specific performance profile to get more out of your key workouts. IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN ABOUT: -The pros and cons of basing intensities on percentages of threshold (or percentages of any one fixed marker) -Who can benefit from identifying and individualising target intensities beyond percentages of threshold? -How to establish your performance profile -How to use your performance profile to set intensity targets for different types of workouts SHOWNOTES: https://scientifictriathlon.com/tts451/ SCIENTIFIC TRIATHLON AND THAT TRIATHLON SHOW WEBPAGE: www.scientifictriathlon.com/podcast/ SPONSORS: Precision Fuel & Hydration help athletes personalise their hydration and fueling strategies for training and racing. Use the free Fuel & Hydration Planner to get personalised plan for your carbohydrate, sodium and fluid intake in your next event. That Triathlon Show listeners get 15% off their first order of fuel and electrolyte products. Simply use this link and the discount will be auto-applied at the checkout. LINKS AND RESOURCES: -Separating evidence from hype in endurance sports (Mikael interviewed on the Endurance Innovation podcast) -Mallorca Training Camp 2025 -Portugal Training Camp 2025 RATE AND REVIEW: If you enjoy the show, please help me out by subscribing, rating and reviewing: www.scientifictriathlon.com/rate/ CONTACT: Want to send feedback, questions or just chat? Email me at mikael@scientifictriathlon.com or connect on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.

Dec 2, 2024 • 60min
Sam Proctor (coach of India Lee) - Training talk | EP#450
Sam Proctor is a triathlon coach based in Loughborough in the United Kingdom. He coaches athletes at both amateur and professional levels, including India Lee, who finished 8th in the T100 World Tour (with one win and one 3rd place along the way). Sam has a strong triathlon background himself, with a 7:55 Ironman PB. IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN ABOUT: -Sam's coaching methodology -Swim, bike and run training principles -India Lee's training, including changes made to achieve some breakout results this year -A breakdown of India's training week the week before race week of the T100 Grand Final -Tips for age-group athletes SHOWNOTES: https://scientifictriathlon.com/tts450/ SCIENTIFIC TRIATHLON AND THAT TRIATHLON SHOW WEBPAGE: www.scientifictriathlon.com/podcast/ SPONSORS: Precision Fuel & Hydration help athletes personalise their hydration and fueling strategies for training and racing. Use the free Fuel & Hydration Planner to get personalised plan for your carbohydrate, sodium and fluid intake in your next event. That Triathlon Show listeners get 15% off their first order of fuel and electrolyte products. Simply use this link and the discount will be auto-applied at the checkout. LINKS AND RESOURCES: -Sam's Instagram and website profile -Training Talk with coach Mark Pearce | EP#247 -Bradley Wiggins: My Time: An Autobiography -Swim, Bike, Run: Our Triathlon Story - by Alistair and Jonathan Brownlee -Mallorca Training Camp 2025 -Portugal Training Camp 2025 RATE AND REVIEW: If you enjoy the show, please help me out by subscribing, rating and reviewing: www.scientifictriathlon.com/rate/ CONTACT: Want to send feedback, questions or just chat? Email me at mikael@scientifictriathlon.com or connect on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.

Nov 20, 2024 • 1h 21min
Rob Cheetham - Training talk and Leon Chevalier's Kona preparation | EP#449
Rob Cheetham is a South African triathlon coach based in Bath in the UK. He coaches professional and age-group athletes, including his wife Susie (who also coaches for Cheetham Coaching) and Leon Chevalier, who recently finished 4th in the Ironman World Championships in Kona. IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN ABOUT: -Rob's coaching methodology and key principles -Coaching as a team with his wife Susie -A deep dive into swim training, and Rob's swim training and swim technique principles -How to maximise return on time investment for age-group athletes -Tips for improving in swimming, biking and running for age-group athletes -Overrated and underrated things and concepts in triathlon -Detailed insights into Leon Chevalier's preparation for Kona, including volume and intensity, key sessions, and more SHOWNOTES: https://scientifictriathlon.com/tts449/ SCIENTIFIC TRIATHLON AND THAT TRIATHLON SHOW WEBPAGE: www.scientifictriathlon.com/podcast/ SPONSORS: Precision Fuel & Hydration help athletes personalise their hydration and fueling strategies for training and racing. Use the free Fuel & Hydration Planner to get personalised plan for your carbohydrate, sodium and fluid intake in your next event. That Triathlon Show listeners get 15% off their first order of fuel and electrolyte products. Simply use this link and the discount will be auto-applied at the checkout. LINKS AND RESOURCES: -Kasper Pedersen – Training talk and Magnus Ditlev’s Kona preparation | EP#448 -Nikki Bartlett and Bex Milnes – 5th in the Ironman World Championships | EP#446 -Mallorca Training Camp 2025 -Portugal Training Camp 2025 RATE AND REVIEW: If you enjoy the show, please help me out by subscribing, rating and reviewing: www.scientifictriathlon.com/rate/ CONTACT: Want to send feedback, questions or just chat? Email me at mikael@scientifictriathlon.com or connect on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.

Nov 12, 2024 • 1h 31min
Kasper Pedersen - Training talk and Magnus Ditlev's Kona preparation | EP#448
Kasper Pedersen is a Danish triathlon coach working with professional athletes, junior and developing athletes, and age-groupers. He is an important part of the team around Magnus Ditlev, and usually the man on the ground to help with the day to day coaching and support during training camps and races. IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN ABOUT: -Kasper's backstory in triathlon and coaching -His coaching methodology and key principles -Training principles for age-group athletes -Tips for improving in swimming, biking and running for age-group athletes -Detailed insights into Magnus Ditlev's preparation for Kona, including volume and intensity, altitude training, and heat preparation protocols -Detailed breakdown of Magnus' final altitude week before travelling to Kona -The importance of the team around a world class professional athlete SHOWNOTES: https://scientifictriathlon.com/tts448/ SCIENTIFIC TRIATHLON AND THAT TRIATHLON SHOW WEBPAGE: www.scientifictriathlon.com/podcast/ SPONSORS: Precision Fuel & Hydration help athletes personalise their hydration and fueling strategies for training and racing. Use the free Fuel & Hydration Planner to get personalised plan for your carbohydrate, sodium and fluid intake in your next event. That Triathlon Show listeners get 15% off their first order of fuel and electrolyte products. Simply use this link and the discount will be auto-applied at the checkout. LINKS AND RESOURCES: -Nikki Bartlett and Bex Milnes – 5th in the Ironman World Championships | EP#446 -Torben Rokkedal Lausch | EP#412 -Altitude training with prof. Grégoire Millet | EP#258 -Bent Rønnestad, PhD | EP#386 -Ben Stephenson, PhD – Heat preparation, physiology, performance planning, and the Paralympics | EP#443 -Mallorca Training Camp 2025 -Portugal Training Camp 2025 RATE AND REVIEW: If you enjoy the show, please help me out by subscribing, rating and reviewing: www.scientifictriathlon.com/rate/ CONTACT: Want to send feedback, questions or just chat? Email me at mikael@scientifictriathlon.com or connect on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.

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Oct 22, 2024 • 1h 11min
High intensity, running power, suffering capacity, bias in training prescription (Q&A) | EP#447
Tobias Haumann, a scientific triathlon coach with expertise in endurance sports, joins the discussion. He dives into the concept of 'round number bias' in training prescriptions, pointing out its drawbacks. The duo explores the cost-benefit aspect of high-intensity intervals, discussing their value in training. They delve into the importance of suffering capacity during races and evaluate the reliability of running power metrics and devices, highlighting the need for individualized approaches to training for optimal performance.

Oct 15, 2024 • 1h 35min
Nikki Bartlett and Bex Milnes - 5th in the Ironman World Championships | EP#446
Nikki Bartlett, a professional triathlete fresh off her impressive 5th-place finish at the Ironman World Championships, shares her journey overcoming injuries with her wife and coach, Bex Milnes. They discuss the strategic planning that led to Nikki's success, including adaptations made for the challenging Nice course. Listeners will hear about Nikki's intense training regimen, the importance of preparation on race day, and essential advice for age-groupers gearing up for future Ironman events.

Oct 7, 2024 • 50min
Training zones and thresholds: 101 to 401 | EP#445
In this episode we discuss everything you need to know about training zones. We also discuss the first and second lactate and ventilatory thresholds. IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN ABOUT: -Training zones as a communication tool -How I use training zones (and how I don't use them) -Not relying on training zones for training prescription -Other common mistakes with training zones -Lactate and ventilatory threshold testing and definitions -Is one of lactate or ventilatory testing better than the other? -Field test, training and race data based alternative to lactate and ventilatory testing SHOWNOTES: https://scientifictriathlon.com/tts445/ SCIENTIFIC TRIATHLON AND THAT TRIATHLON SHOW WEBPAGE: www.scientifictriathlon.com/podcast/ SPONSORS: Precision Fuel & Hydration help athletes personalise their hydration and fueling strategies for training and racing. Use the free Fuel & Hydration Planner to get personalised plan for your carbohydrate, sodium and fluid intake in your next event. That Triathlon Show listeners get 15% off their first order of fuel and electrolyte products. Simply use this link and the discount will be auto-applied at the checkout. ZEN8 - The ZEN8 Indoor Swim Trainer allows you to improve technique, power, and swim training consistency. You can target specific aspects of your stroke, like catch and pull-through, work on core activation and body position, and make sure you stay consistent in your swim training even when you don't have time to go to the pool. Try the Zen8 risk-free for 30 days, and get 20% off your first order on zen8swimtrainer.com/tts. LINKS AND RESOURCES: -Mallorca Training Camp 2025 -Portugal Training Camp 2025 RATE AND REVIEW: If you enjoy the show, please help me out by subscribing, rating and reviewing: www.scientifictriathlon.com/rate/ CONTACT: Want to send feedback, questions or just chat? Email me at mikael@scientifictriathlon.com or connect on Instagram, Facebook, or Twitter.