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Jan 18, 2022 • 44min

91. Dan Gerl — Do It Your Way: Explosive Growth Through Creative Innovation

“I'm happy I get to do it my own way. I get to have fun with it. I'd hear other attorneys in the community say, ‘that's so tacky’ and ‘it's unethical.’ But I'm like, ‘Good,’ you know? Don't you want to have fun? Wouldn't you like to do it your way, if you could do it your way and you could succeed?” - Dan Gerl Why did Dan transition from graphic designer, to prosecutor, to CEO of a criminal defense firm? How did Dan’s life change when his 4-month-old, Jack, had a heart attack? How did telling Jack’s story of recovery win Dan a Rolls-Royce? What has Dan learned from his experience in the legal industry’s top coaching program? Why does Dan use the term “The Avengers” to describe his partners? Let the Good Times Roll(s)In late 2019, Dan Gerl had one of the most terrifying experiences a parent can have. Out of nowhere one day, his 4-month-old son Jack had a heart attack and stopped breathing. After they rushed him to the hospital, Dan and his family learned of a rare type of tumor in Jack’s heart. For months, they all lived on pins and needles as they waited for the surgery that might save their son. Procedures were delayed due to COVID. Jack got the flu and couldn’t travel to his pre-op assessment. Just as they discovered that Jack was eligible for surgery, Dan’s mother passed away.It’s a testament to Dan’s strength that throughout all of this, he continued to run his highly successful criminal defense firm, Puget Law Group. He also continued his commitment to his coaching program and even took things to the next level by competing in the Crisp Effect. Through it all, he created powerful, creative videos documenting his 2020 experience: with the firm, with his mother, and with Jack.At the Game Changers Summit 3 in 2021, Dan was recognized by 2,500 of his peers for growing his firm 200% and the powerful positivity that permeated his work. As the winner of the Crisp Effect Challenge, he walked away with the keys to a $300,000 Rolls-Royce Ghost. But the greatest win of all is that his son Jack had successful heart surgery, has fully recovered, and has been growing and thriving ever since.Doing His ShareDan’s work doesn’t just demonstrate his positivity. It’s a window into his creative spirit. A former graphic designer, Dan uses his skillset to create a distinctive brand full of humor, swagger, and eye-catching visuals. He’s found ingenious ways to employ this advantage, zigging where other law firms zag, especially during COVID. As Dan says, “We got big time into buying up outdoor advertising — doubling and tripling our marketing efforts — because nobody else was doing it.”But for all his creative and professional success, Dan is still incredibly humble. He doesn’t care if his name is on the door. He has made big sacrifices, relinquishing his role in the courtroom and recruiting talented partners to share his stake in the firm. He’s never looked back. “I wanted to build something that would, that would grow and have significance. The potential for that is exponentially greater than what I had.”Key takeaways: Play to your strengths. Find a way to incorporate your unique skill set. Adapt. Overcome. When he didn’t make it as a prosecutor, Dan made a name for himself in criminal defense. Turn pain into a positive. Let hard times make you stronger. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Website Crisp Facebook Crisp Twitter Crisp Instagram Crisp LinkedIn Puget Law Group Website Dan Gerl LinkedIn Crisp Effect Challenge Winner - Dan Gerl
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Jan 11, 2022 • 56min

90. Kara Goldin — Undaunted: Overcoming Doubts & Building an Empire

“Dark days don't last forever. You have to be open to what's coming next. In so many situations I could say that I didn't see it coming and felt blindsided. But oftentimes, I don't see the light coming. And I know that the light is even brighter because I had a dark moment.” - Kara Goldin How did Kara go from tech executive to unsweetened-water tycoon? What skills empowered Kara to turn her beverage idea into an entire healthy lifestyle brand? How can fledgling startups stand up to industry titans? What is the key to creating a successful brand from the ground up? How can brands differentiate themselves in an already crowded market space? A Keen Eye and a Strong WillEntrepreneurs don’t just come up with one idea and call it quits. Their minds are always working, looking for unsolved problems and keeping an eye on the competition’s blind spots. But a sixth sense for a great opportunity isn’t enough if you want to be the next big thing. You need to have the conviction to see that idea through to the first product, customer, or big deal and beyond, because your competition won’t sit idly by while you carve out a market of your own — they’ll be ready to fight back.Kara Goldin is the Founder of Hint and the author of “Undaunted: Overcoming Doubts and Doubters.”When Kara realized that the diet beverages she was drinking were doing more harm than good, her mind turned to finding a healthier, unsweetened alternative. But even the “healthy” choices on the market still contained ingredients that Kara didn’t want to put in her body (or anyone else’s). From this unsuccessful search, Hint was born. But Kara didn’t just limit Hint’s healthy ethos solely to beverages. Soon the company evolved into the premier “better-for-you” brand, producing deodorants, sunscreen, and a host of other personal care products.The Importance of the Outsider’s PerspectiveSometimes the greatest innovations in an industry come not from the big players already in the market, but from the outsiders — because while having solid traditions or ways of doing things might be useful when it comes to selling an existing product, those same traditions can also act as a blindfold when trying to see things from a new perspective.Kara explains how a meeting with an executive from one of the world’s leading drinks manufacturers revealed how these companies had become blinded by and bound to the established ways of doing things. We discuss how breaking into markets with no experience can actually be a blessing as long as you have the drive to push past the naysayers and believe in your product.Always Keep Your Options OpenAs is so often the case, one key to success is to never put all your eggs in one basket. Whether that’s running marketing campaigns across various channels or not spending too much time on one client, ensuring you spread your efforts can mean the difference between sinking or swimming when the rug is pulled out from under you.We discuss how Hint persevered after an exclusive deal with the world’s largest coffee chain fell through, severing one of Kara’s key distribution channels. She explains how sometimes the sweetest deal may hold you on the tightest leash, and how you can avoid being caught out simply by keeping your options open and putting those eggs in multiple baskets.Key takeaways: Dark days don’t last forever — and they make the good days seem that much brighter. Break the mold. If you have a great idea that hasn’t been put into action by others, it may not be a bad idea — they’re just afraid to try it. If your competition is hitting back, you’re doing something right. Keep on differentiating yourself and innovating your product or service. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Website Crisp Facebook Crisp Twitter Crisp Instagram Crisp LinkedIn Kara Goldin LinkedIn Kara Goldin Twitter Hint Website
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Dec 21, 2021 • 2h 13min

89. Season 2 Finale: Part 2

There won't always be a set path to your destination — especially if you're going where no one's gone before. If there was one thread that connected the game changers we talked to this season, it's that they forge their own paths. To push themselves, these leaders build challenges that seem impossible, things no one would ever dream of doing. Then they create strategies and teams to conquer those challenges, one step at a time.We also talked to some fascinating psychologists, who opened our eyes on the science behind human behavior: how ideas spread, how our actions are perceived, and the power each of us holds to influence our communities.Not one of the guests on Season 2 claimed to have achieved success alone — each one had people they relied on. Whether it was a community of academics, a professional team, or a supportive family, they surrounded themselves with competence and purpose, everyone pulling towards the same goal.Finally, all of these amazing guests found ways to appreciate the journey along the way. The challenges they faced were grueling, but the support of their loved ones and the things they learned about themselves made it all worthwhile.In the final episode of Season 2, we're bringing you conversations that will inspire you to aim high in the coming year and give you direction on how to reach the lofty goals you set.In this episode: Mat Fraser on the drive it takes to achieve and sustain physical CrossFit dominance John Morgan on swimming upstream and aligning your objectives with your team members’ Brian Panish on building an impeccable culture Tim Grover on the mindset it takes to win Mark Manson on what you should give a f*ck about James Lawrence on fighting comfortable complacency Colin O'Brady on setting (and achieving) impossible goals Dr. Katy Milkman on how to scientifically approach self-improvement Sean Claggett on leading by doing what needs to be done Dr. Vanessa Bohns on the psychological effects (and responsibilities) of power Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Website Crisp Facebook Crisp Twitter Crisp Instagram Crisp LinkedIn Mat Fraser - Episode 63 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast John Morgan - Episode 66 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Mark Manson - Episode 72 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Brian Panish - Episode 69 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Podcast Tim Grover - Episode 71 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast James Lawrence - Episode 73 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Colin O'Brady - Episode 75 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Dr. Katy Milkman - Episode 78 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Sean Claggett - Episode 79 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Dr. Vanessa Bohns - Episode 82 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast
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Dec 14, 2021 • 1h 54min

88. Season 2 Finale: Part 1

Game changers see the world differently. They question convention. They break from the norm. They challenge the status quo.They know that in order to not just succeed but excel, simply doing "the done thing" isn't enough. And no matter where their passions lie, this mindset remains a constant alongside their drive to innovate.Over the course of Season 2, we've spoken with modern revolutionaries in all fields. From philosophers to entrepreneurs, lawyers to hoteliers, we've discussed the strategies they've employed to transform their industries and earn them the accolade of game changer.In the first of our two-part season finale of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, we bring you the highlights from some of the most thought-provoking conversations of Season 2. Listen in as we discuss with law firm owners and leading minds what sets them apart from the competition — and how you can break away from the pack too.In this episode: Jay Papasan on why you should be keeping "success lists," not to-do lists. Horst Schulze on how empowering your team can turn "terrorist" customers into brand ambassadors. Sarah Williams on why you can't achieve peak confidence levels if you don't embrace your inner self. Jessica Mogill on the importance of pushing your limits to achieve growth. Eric Thomas on how critical thinking is one of the greatest tools you can possess, and why effort, not desire, is the key to achieving. Brian Chase on why you shouldn't be afraid to fire the bad fits in your organization. Ryan Holiday on how Stoicism can help to remove emotion from problems, empowering you to tackle them objectively. Marcus Lemonis on why size doesn't matter when it comes to running a business. John Maxwell on how bad leaders manipulate, but good leaders motivate. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Website Crisp Facebook Crisp Twitter Crisp Instagram Crisp LinkedIn Jay Papasan - Episode 40 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Horst Schulze - Episode 44 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Sara Williams - Episode 45 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Eric Thomas - Episode 50 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Jessica Mogill - Episode 47 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Brian Chase - Episode 52 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Ryan Holiday - Episode 53 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Marcus Lemonis - Episode 55 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast John Maxwell - Episode 62 of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast
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Dec 7, 2021 • 53min

87. Pat Flynn — Superfans: How to Stand Out, Grow Your Tribe, and Build a Successful Business

"More than just like the product, it's the feeling. I know in my brand, I try to make people feel like a lot of this stuff is not as overwhelming as it may seem. So they might go elsewhere and go, ‘Wow, Pat, you've been able to deconstruct this in a way that allows me to actually be able to start a podcast or to be able to start a business in a way that I never thought was possible for me.’" - Pat Flynn What inspired Pat Flynn to become an entrepreneur? Why should you identify your entrepreneurial “superpower” — and how to do it? What does “immersive empathy" mean? How significant is scaling your business or brand? What are the benefits of quality over quantity? A Helping HandOnce an architect, now an entrepreneur, Pat Flynn has forged a path for himself by creating opportunities for others. Through his work on the Smart Passive Income Blog and the Green Exam Academy, Pat has helped millions of people around the world increase their financial freedom and achieve their goals.As an author, Flynn has found widespread success through his books "Will It Fly?" which was a Wall Street Journal best-seller, and most recently "Superfans," a guide on how to turn customers into champions for your business. He's also firmly planted his flag across a variety of mediums, from webinars and blogs to online courses. Pat's goal, above all else, is to help people become their best selves.Special DeliveryPat has dealt with businesses big and small and knows they're all unique. As he puts it, "Every company has a different hit song, and every company has a different client base that likely has different lyrics that they could respond to." But in Pat's eyes, the key to any business is to understand the customer and make them feel special. This exercise in what Pat calls "immersive empathy" can pay huge dividends because it leads to an audience that is active instead of casual and builds a community that has value beyond your product.In our discussion, Pat tells us the methods he uses to make customers feel special, how to identify and engage your entrepreneurial superpower, and the aspect of business where he sees most entrepreneurs fall short.Key takeaways: Personalize: Make your audience feel special. Have High Standards: Quality over quantity. Unleash your Superpower: Don't be afraid to work to your strengths. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Website Crisp Facebook Crisp Twitter Crisp Instagram Crisp LinkedIn Smart Passive Income Website Pat Flynn Website Pat Flynn LinkedIn Pat Flynn Twitter Superfans - Book
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Nov 30, 2021 • 53min

86. Roland Frasier — The Secret to Scale: How to Grow Your Business

"It's short-term versus long-term. If you're in it for the money, you're going to make short-term financial decisions that will ultimately cause the business to suffer in the longer term" - Roland Frasier What gives a business potential for success? How will the legal industry change with outside money coming in? What do “seller finance” and “earn out” mean? How can leaders keep up with market trends? Why is it important to focus on long-term goals? Life of a SalesmanFrom magic shows and lemonade stands to multi-million dollar business deals, serial entrepreneur Roland Frasier has been a salesman his whole life. As co-founder and principal of five different businesses listed on Inc. Magazine’s list of fastest-growing companies, as well as CEO of the All Channel Media company, Roland has bought or sold businesses with adjusted sales ranging from $3 million to just under $4 billion.Roland has worked across a multitude of industries, from software technology to airline management. With a skill set that includes copywriting, strategic marketing, and negotiating, Roland has the expertise to evaluate potential, increase value, and get strong return on a business.In the art of the deal, Roland's the artist.Joining ForcesFor Roland, if the question is "How do I grow my business?" there's a clear answer: acquisitions."I don't think there's anything that you're looking for in terms of growth and scale that you can't get through acquisition. I think that's the fastest way to do it. You literally double your business overnight."If you have the capital, acquisition can be an unorthodox way to solve any number of problems. Want to grow your caseload or market share? Acquire a competitor. Looking for talent? Join forces with another firm's lawyers. Need to develop software? Find a company that has a dev team in place.The way Roland sees it is simple: You have problems. They have solutions, and this is a proven way to get access to them.Have a Heart: Empathy and GrowthRoland doesn't subscribe to the cutthroat, zero-sum school of business. In fact, his success is keyed by some pretty compassionate competencies. "Empathy and creativity are really some of the most important skills. Empathy allows you to put yourself in the shoes of your customer or your employee, and creativity allows you to draw on untraditional solutions to the problems that they face."Roland says that strong employee relationships are key to both workplace communication and morale. He values the "happiness and satisfaction level" of his workers and thinks that businesses that ignore employee well-being are destined to stagnate.Key takeaways: Bigger picture: Understand your long-term goals and execute them correctly. Empathize: Bring a human touch to your work practices, and apply that to those around you. Up-to-date: To stay on top of your game, stay in-tune with the market and trends. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Website Crisp Facebook Crisp Twitter Crisp Instagram Crisp LinkedIn Roland Frasier Website Roland Frasier LinkedIn Roland Frasier Twitter Zero Down - Book Website
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Nov 23, 2021 • 31min

85. Women Legal Leaders: LIVE from the Game Changers Summit 3

"You need female leaders to help build that balance. We're part of the story. I get tired of hearing other females apologize for being great at what they do. Don't apologize for being good at your job." - Samantha Ball What is the definition of leadership? Why are women in law ditching work-life balance in favor of work-life integration? What are the common misconceptions of female leadership? What are the benefits of having female leaders? Making the Right Moves: Women in LeadershipRachel Flood, Samantha Ball, Sara Williams, and Mariam Kuregyan are four women providing unique and empowering perspectives on women in leadership positions — particularly in the practice of law.Director of Operations at the Flood Law Firm Rachel Flood is something of an operational genius and someone who supports the community above all else.Samantha Ball, partner of Disability Attorneys of Michigan, helps those in her community navigate Social Security Disability benefits and provides those less fortunate with excellent care.Trial attorney Sara Williams advances the role of women and people of color in the legal field by promoting the importance of authenticity and asking for what you deserve.Mariam Kuregyan of Davana Law Firm provides invaluable insights on how having unique backgrounds and facing adversity can translate into success.Each of these women has a message to spread, unite, strengthen, and develop.Passion: Believing in Your StrengthsOne particular driving force our four panelists all share is passion. As Rachel Flood states, to be successful you should have "a strong passion and belief in what you're doing," something inspiring not only to young women, but to all.To progress in life, there must be a fire that ignites within you. When speaking about female figures in the legal space, Samantha Ball says "don't wait for someone to invite you, invite yourself."It's important to educate the next generation, reinforcing the idea that until you make your presence felt and stand for what you believe in, your voice will go unheard. Strong female figures should take the floor and make themselves known — if not for themselves, for the others around them.Setting an Example for the Next GenerationEach of the women in this conversation intends to spread a positive message. To develop young female leaders, there must be examples set. Sara Williams believes in the idea of "being visible," making sure women in law are confident and proactive in speaking up and make their presence known in male-dominant industries.Rachel Flood suggests gender is somewhat irrelevant, and that to get to where you need to be, life is about taking on challenges and building a support system. Surrounding yourself with those who believe in you will help you reach your goals.In this episode, we explore confidence, discuss courage, and understand how women are most certainly leading by example in a world full of prejudice and ugly opinions. If you need a confidence boost, look no further.Key takeaways: Togetherness: In leadership, treat everyone how you'd want to be treated yourself. Confidence: Believe in your ability and trust in your strengths. Network: Build your support network to create the work and family structure you need. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Website Crisp Facebook Crisp Twitter Crisp Instagram Crisp LinkedIn Sara Williams LinkedIn Rachel Flood LinkedIn Mariam Kuregyan LinkedIn Samantha Ball LinkedIn
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Nov 16, 2021 • 43min

84. Legal Power Players: LIVE from the Game Changers Summit 3

"You have to engage and connect with your clients, because at the end of the day it's that experience they have. You can get them a fantastic settlement verdict. You can do that for them, but they're going to remember how you treated them during that process." - Roopal Luhana Why is the digital age so apparent in the practice of law? What are the best ways to approach engaging with your clients? Why is it important to differentiate yourself from the competition? How significant is credibility? How is the legal industry changing? A Strong Core: Our Distinguished PanelistsJoe Fried, Roopal Luhana, Alexander Shunnarah, and Harlan Schillinger are four individuals changing the game. From truck law to medical litigation, each of these figures does the best thing for the right cause. They all know that strong core values go a long way in the legal game, and aligning those values with your practice will have results for both your community and your bottom line.Roopal Luhana has litigated significant cases nationwide and has settlements up to $586 million in medical malpractice and fraud, in addition to being a leading voice for increasing diversity in industry leadership positions.Joe Fried is one of the original truck crash lawyers in the US and has litigated cases in over 35 states, carving out an innovative niche as he fights for trucker safety.Alexander Shunnarah is ubiquitous and synonymous with amazing personal injury results across numerous Southern states.Harlan Schillinger, the “father of law firm advertising,” pioneered the field we work in today.Each of these names has made a monumental difference to the lives of many — and they’re just getting started.Reputation is Everything: The Importance of CredibilityTo acquire cases, you have to build relationships, and for people to trust you, as Roopal says, you must treat clients like family. Connecting with clients is arguably the hardest part of the job. But providing a personable experience that’s informative and engaging reaches beyond just the clients involved in a case — it develops a reputation for your business.Harlan says that "brand is what they think of you when you're out of the room." We look at the power of credibility, the purpose of change and we take a step forward and look at what’s shifting in the current legal industry.Drive: Making a DifferenceWhen a case is closed, what does it all mean? Have you made a difference? Have lives been changed? These are all questions our panelists face each and every day. Joe Fried doesn’t worry about competing with other attorneys. Outside of the courtroom, Joe's focus has shifted to the mental health of those he works with, both clients and colleagues.Roopal Luhana intends to hold companies accountable for their moral dishonesty. The Zantac litigation, a high profile case Roopal led, outlines the immoral behavior of companies on a global level. Providing secure foundations for those in need — whether they’re clients, employees, or colleagues — is the mark of a true game changer.Key takeaways: Credibility: Commit to the cause and display authenticity. Respect: Make change through action. Connection: Truly understand your clients and be honest. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Website Crisp Facebook Crisp Twitter Crisp Instagram Crisp LinkedIn Joe Fried LinkedIn Roopal Luhana LinkedIn Alexander Shunnarah LinkedIn Harlan Schillinger LinkedIn
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Nov 9, 2021 • 47min

83. Dr. Jay Van Bavel — The Power of Us: Harnessing Shared Identities

"Our identities and the way we're filtering the world visually make it hard for us to have this notion of objective evidence. Objective evidence can help when it's really ambiguous, but when it's ambiguous, that's when identities and the way we filter the world matter a great deal." - Dr. Jay Van Bavel Why do people identify with certain groups? How are Jay and his team providing people with the tools to navigate the social world? What are the key components to understanding identity? Why are people social chameleons? Toolkit: Defining Social SkillsAs an Associate Professor of Psychology and Neural Science, Jay has brought a fresh perspective to the world of social science. His outstanding research has been published over 100 times academically, and his works have been featured on global platforms such as the BBC, New York Times, and Wall Street Journal. Oh, and he's also been cited by the United States Senate and Supreme Court. No big deal.With his recent book "The Power of Us," Jay intends to give people the tools not only to be leaders, but navigate the social world. Focusing on relevant topics such as social media influence, Jay's research intends to break the mold by giving people the tools to become the masters of their own identities.Influencer: The Good, the Bad, and the UglyWhile people like the idea of individualism, in reality people's behavior originates from those around them. Jay believes people are "social chameleons," outlining the nature of human interaction. He states that one major contributor to adopted behaviorism is social media. Van Bavel explores all sides of social media, from its benefits to its power to divide and spread misinformation.In this episode, Jay explains the impact of social media, influence, and why people identify with certain groups. Van Bavel says that "we often think of ourselves as individuals," yet when placed in a context where we need to work together, we "form a shared identity." This evaluation outlines the social balances we often face in our day-to-day lives.Check Yourself: Conflicts and BiasIn this episode, Van Bavel touches upon self-reflection. While examining group identities, Jay speaks of "naïve realism" — meaning that people think they see reality for what it is, when in fact there are other perspectives and other views that differ from your own.Jay believes it's important to be aware of your surroundings and how social situations are far bigger than what meets the eye to an individual. We break down group dynamics and piece together the social puzzle.Key takeaways: Know your crowd. Understand the effect that those around you have on your beliefs. Is this real life? Social media is a powerful tool, in ways both negative and positive. Open your mind. Seek out others' opinions around you to gain perspective. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Website Crisp Facebook Crisp Twitter Crisp Instagram Crisp LinkedIn Jay Van Bavel LinkedIn Jay Van Bavel Twitter The Power of Us - Book Website
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Nov 2, 2021 • 55min

82. Dr. Vanessa Bohns — You Have More Influence Than You Think

"Research has shown that power can cause a lot of negative things, but it can also cause a lot of positive things. The sort of common denominator that power does is it makes people more likely to act in situations, especially situations of ambiguity. People who are in higher positions of power are more likely to actually act." - Dr. Vanessa Bohns How can you accurately assess the influence you have? How do leaders approach power differently? Why are people more inclined to agree than disagree? Why do the people around you impact your decisions more than facts? Social Butterfly: Understanding interactionWith over 15 years of experience in the field of social psychology, Dr. Vanessa Bohns has made a career of studying the everyday interactions that govern our lives. Her book, “You Have More Influence Than You Think” has received rave reviews from The Financial Times and BBC Worklife, who say it offers an exciting, new, scientific way of thinking about influence.In her work, Dr. Bohns looks deeper than tips on growing your following and aims to understand how behaviors are passed through social interaction. Legendary author Robert Cialdini states that Vanessa's book is an “enormously empowering call to anyone who has ever felt ineffective or invisible to recognize their power and wield it accordingly.”Make the Call: Understanding DecisionsIn this episode, Dr. Bohns explains social science concepts such as the “invisibility cloak illusion” and the mechanics behind why people conform to perceived social norms. Vanessa believes that “people don't agree to do things because they want to; they agree to do things because it's hard to say no.” Observing the social pressure behind decision-making can help you focus on your priorities when you’re faced with difficult choices.Of particular relevance to game changers is the “bystander effect,” which addresses how decisions are made in relation to those around you. Bohns provides a number of classic case studies which highlight why certain people take action while others avoid it. Being aware of this phenomenon can be the difference between a true game changer and someone who doesn't step up.Get Out of Your Own HeadOne point Dr. Bohns stresses is that we're limited by our own blind spots. We understand how others impact us, but can't easily see the results of our own behavior. Vanessa recommends “simple exercises where you get out of your own head.” She believes these exercises can help you see how you're perceived and can be the first step to creating a positive impact with everyone you touch.Key takeaways: Gratitude. Be appreciative of what you have. Awareness. Understand your influence and how it may impact others. Reassurance. Appreciate the influence you already have on those around you. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Website Crisp Facebook Crisp Twitter Crisp Instagram Crisp LinkedIn Vanessa Bohns Website Vanessa Bohns LinkedIn Vanessa Bohns Twitter You Have More Influence Than You Think - Book Website

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