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This week, Kate interviews millennial magazine icon Atoosa Rubenstein, former editor-in-chief of CosmoGIRL! And Seventeen magazine in the early-mid 2000s, who has now entered back into the pop culture spotlight with her Substack Atoosa Unedited. Kate and Atoosa talk about her rise to being the youngest founder and editor-in-chief in Hearst history, her experience in the glam magazine world in the aughts, celeb encounters, "Devil Wears Prada" moments, the benefits and downfalls of her inexperience in a leadership role, and her ultimate exit from the spotlight as a result of insurmountable burnout. She also speaks very honestly about her experience with sexual assault in her childhood, the importance of magazines in helping her identify it, and the passion she had for instilling confidence and bodily autonomy in young girls, even in an era we now side-eye as not being the most forward-thinking or body confident (understatement). They also talk about Kate's burning questions re: the heavy-hitting topics, e.g. her experience being a judge on America's Next Top Model and if someone made up all the puns in Trauma-Rama. Enjoy! TW: SA Subscribe to Atoosa's Substack here: https://atoosa.substack.com/ SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Sign up at ButcherBox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and get 2 lbs of ground beef free in every order for the life of your membership. Log on to ButcherBox.com/BETHEREINFIVE claim this deal! 25% off ANYTHING you order when you use promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUIDIV.COM. Experience better hydration today at LIQUIDIV.COM, promo code BETHEREINFIVE. Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today! Go to Prose.com/bethereinfive. Go to Zocdoc.com/BETHEREINFIVE and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then start your search for a top-rated doctor today. Many are available within 24 hours.

This week, Kate reads e-mails listeners wrote in about their experiences learning puberty & sex ed. First, Kate snorkels through some of her early impressions of DOING IT from pop culture, reviews a brief history of sex ed in the US, and discusses some of the environmental nuances of the 90s and 00s that made abstinence-only education the status quo. Part-funny, part-cringe, part-heartbreaking, this episode showcases a wide spectrum of implications of not receiving comprehensive sex ed. TW: SA SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Helix is offering up to 200 dollars off all mattresses mattress orders as well and two free pillows for our listeners at HelixSleep.com/bethereinfive Get 10% off your first order with promo code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAmalibu.com + free samples with every order, and orders over $50 get free shipping Get your HydroJug at www.thehydrojug.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE to get 10% off your order today Right now Ritual is offering my listeners 10% off your first three months. Visit ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE and turn healthy habits into a Ritual If you are a survivor of sexual assault, you can contact the RAINN National Sexual Assault Hotline at 1-800-656-4673 to receive confidential support from a trained staff member at a local RAINN affiliate. For more mental health resources, see our National Helpline Database.

This week, Kate is joined by Kate Spencer and Doree Shafrir from the Forever35 podcast to discuss all things in the name of self-care from today and yesteryear. Kate starts out by reading some of the weird/random lies people submitted that they told as kids on Instagram, e.g. faking eye exams, injuries, and orthodontia for unknown reasons. Then the Kates and Doree discuss rom-com jobs, working in the 'mean girl' era of journalism (e.g. Gawker), beauty advice in teen mags, nostalgic drug store products, adolescent skincare, hanging at the mall as a third place, maintaining an identity as parents, and also reveal their holy grail and most overrated product picks. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Allform is offering 20% off all orders for our listeners at Allform.com/bethereinfive Go to AurateNewYork.com/bethereinfive and use promo code bethereinfive to get 20% off during Aurate's All Humankind Sale Find your forever pieces at jennikayne.com and get 15% off your first order when you use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout Practice your interior design skills and express your creativity with Redecor! Download Redecor for FREE on the App Store or Google Play Store Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today! Go to Prose.com/bethereinfive

In this episode, Kate eats an edible, snorkels through a teen magazine, then answers a variety of listener voicemails about light and heavy topics affecting their lives. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Get started today - frame your photos or send someone the perfect gift. Go to Framebridge.com and use promo code BTIF to save an additional 15% off your first order Go to HelloFresh.com/bethereinfive16 and use code bethereinfive16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts Your new nail life is here! Visit OliveandJune.com/BTIF for 20% off your first Mani System For 15% off a pair of Marc Fisher LTD shoes, head to marcfisherfootwear.com and enter code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today! Go to Prose.com/bethereinfive

In this episode, Kate explores the parent wars she sees taking place about a cute, fictional movie on Facebook timelines (paired with the glorification of much more problematic fairy tales) and uses it as an opportunity to snorkel through many nostalgic topics involving her preteen rebellion, from cursing during hand-clapping games to high key Pagan sleepover rituals to boy band obsessions, grinding culture, and more. Kate also provides her take on the movie Turning Red, reads comments from pearl clutchers and celebrators alike, and talks through the implications of people insisting everything in this world be created in a way that represents their hyper-specific (often religiously affiliated) value system. At one point, Rachel Hollis is brought up, she can't help herself. Kate also reminisces about her own "red panda" moments in childhood, then talks through some Disney themes people romanticize that are actually quite problematic, meandering through Cinderella, Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid, Pocahontas, etc. Then, she does a brief snorkel on a much-requested topic: Disney adults. Like Turning Red, this episode will not align with nor reflect everyone's specific needs, so please take it with a grain of entertainment-based salt coming from a non-Disney diehard. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS For 15% off a pair of Marc Fisher LTD shoes, head to marcfisherfootwear.com and enter code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout Sign up at ButcherBox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and get 2 lbs of ground beef free in every order for the life of your membership, plus a $10 off coupon Everlywell is offering a special discount of 20% off an at home lab test at everlywell.com/bethereinfive 25% off ANYTHING you order when you use promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUIDIV.COM to experience better hydration today Start your search for a top-rated doctor today. Many are available within 24 hours at zocdoc.com/BETHEREINFIVE For 15% off a pair of Marc Fisher LTD shoes, head to marcfisherfootwear.com and enter code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout WORKS CITED https://nypost.com/2019/07/26/sorry-childless-millennials-going-to-disney-world-is-weird/ https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/books/2012/11/10/grimms_fairy_tales_20_things_you_didnt_know.html https://www.teenvogue.com/story/beauty-and-the-beast-gaston-villain-real-life https://time.com/5548379/pocahontas-real-meaning/ https://www.insider.com/moments-themes-in-disney-movies-that-havent-aged-well-problematic#the-native-americans-in-peter-pan-are-stereotypical-and-feature-cultural-appropriation-7

This week, Kate is joined by her sister Kelly for an escape from real life to talk reality tv and real estate. More specifically, they discuss Love is Blind on Netflix (skip minutes 45-1:00 ish to avoid spoilers) and then discuss their (and other crowd-sourced Beth's) petty preferences for their needs in rentals/homes, following Kate's TV mounting journey. No societal pressure nor water pressure is spared in this thinkpiece about feeling like we should be in a place where we can afford more than we can in a place we call home. Please take with a grain of salt. RomComs part 2 will be out next week once Kate moves and gets her studio is back in order! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS To shop Aurate's All Humankind Sale early and get 20% off sitewide, go to https://auratenewyork.com/bethereinfive and use promo code bethereinfive! Find your forever pieces at jennikayne.com. And get 15% off your first order when you use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Practice your interior design skills and express your creativity with Redecor! Download Redecor for FREE on the App Store or Google Play Store. Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today! Go to Prose.com/bethereinfive.

In stressful times, Kate seeks out romantic comedies, using the genre's poor grasp on reality to escape her own. So this week, we have a rom-com deep dive done on a whim, following a fateful viewing of the critically-unacclaimed film Something Borrowed. In this episode, Kate goes through some of her favorite films, trends, themes, and theories as it relates to the art of the so-bad-it's-good romantic comedy. She explains the boundaries of her questionable taste, then meanders through the high points from 1989-2003 before she runs out of time, and discusses favorite romcom tropes (e.g friends to lovers, supernatural occurrences, writes article/places bet), trends (e.g. phrases as movie titles, everything about weddings), actor/actress combos & swaps, sound bites, grand gestures, etc. At one point there's a snorkel about Kate's hot takes on Judd Apatow movies and her dependency on Paul Rudd's soothing demeanor. Later on, Kate walks through a spreadsheet she created in chronological order to make sure she doesn't miss any highlights, but she only makes it to 2003, so, see you next week? She will post a spreadsheet link here once it's done for a list you can refer to and/or check on the @bethereinfive @bethereinfivepodcast account for a link. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Go to Framebridge.com and use promo code BTIF to save an additional 15% off your first order Go to HelloFresh.com/bethereinfive16 and use code bethereinfive16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts 25% off ANYTHING you order when you use promo code BETHEREINFIVE at LIQUIDIV.COM Getting beautiful salon-perfect nails at home is now a dream come true – with Olive & June! Your new nail life is here! Visit OliveandJune.com/BTIF for 20% off your first Mani System

A joint episode containing an abridged part 2 of "Fitch, Please" (A&F Deep Dive) as well as listener stories about mall modeling & scams masquerading as magazine classified "modeling schools." The episode begins with Kate's windy thoughts about her obsession with malls, magazine editors, models, and related media, and while she draws almost no helpful conclusions, she has plenty of thoughts. This episode also contains snorkels aplenty in between stories about A&F and modeling, from 90s commercial jingles, to Barbies, Kate's own issues with body image, orange juice conspiracies, and more! There may be a Babysitter's Club detour? Perhaps not a 'model' episode, but a fun one nonetheless. Enjoy! And head to patreon.com/bethereinfive later this week for the cut footage and extra stories. Works Cited: https://www.businessinsider.com/abercrombie-and-fitch-is-back-how-af-became-cool-again-2021-4 https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/abercrombie-fitch-new-generation/2021/11/22/da33feec-488e-11ec-b05d-3cb9d96eb495_story.html https://www.thecut.com/2014/02/why-abercrombie-is-losing-its-shirt.html SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Allform is offering 20% off all orders for our listeners at Allform.com/bethereinfive ButcherBox is giving new members free ground beef FOR LIFE! Sign up at ButcherBox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and get 2 lbs of ground beef free in every order for the life of your membership Everlywell is offering a special discount of twenty percent off an at-home lab test at everlywell.com/bethereinfive Go to Zocdoc.com/BETHEREINFIVE and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for FREE and book a top-rated doctor. Many are available as soon as today

A shorter interstitial episode Kate recorded from Dallas this morning while being bored with Super Bowl LVI coverage. This is a more vulnerable episode to share some personal updates as well as an announcement she shared at the last Track 5. She discusses her living situation, an update to The Losses We Share nearing a due date, reads some of the material that was exclusive to Track 5 events, and provides context for its now-significance. The regularly scheduled episode will follow, so if you don't want to hear personal stuff, skip this one! Ep 200 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Visit Audible.com/bethereinfive or text BETHEREINFIVE to 500-500 to become an Audible member today. New members can try Audible for free for (30) days. Get 10% off your first order with promo code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAmalibu.com. You'll get free samples with every order, and orders over $50 get free shipping Right now Ritual is offering my listeners 10% off your first three months. Visit ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE and turn healthy habits into a Ritual Use promo code BETHEREINFIVE at ue.com/fits to get your pair of UE FITS for just $199

Everything's bigger in Texas, including Kate's problems!! First, there's an intro detailing the chaotic series of events that happened this week while stuck in Texas, e.g. having to cancel a show for the first time, a cryptic doctor's voicemail, a hotel scam, and a confusing housing situation, among other things. Following that, podcast regular Merritt Beck joins Kate (as both her host for the week and a guest for the pod) to have a casual conversation whilst pregaming an icy walk to a bar to mourn the delay of Track 5. They discuss things like influencers leaving Instagram for the algorithm, putting kids on the internet, the magic of "getting ready" in college, DARE, Instagram husbands, home decor styles, dating as an influencer, among other things. Part 2 of A&F (and mall models/Barbizon!) coming next week but Kate hopes this will be sufficient for now given the unforeseen circumstances. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Helix is offering up to 200 dollars off all mattresses mattress orders as well and two free pillows for our listeners at HelixSleep.com/bethereinfive Find your forever pieces at jennikayne.com and get 15% off your first order when you use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout Don't fall for subscription scams. Start canceling today at Truebill.com/bethereinfive