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This week, Kate is in and out of coherence as she records responses to listener voicemails throughout week 2 of fertility treatments. Kate-lilah is a play on radio icon Delilah's soothing highly subjective advice and once a quarter Kate answers listener questions, requests for advice, or plays commentary called into the show's voicemail hotline (312) 379-9676. This week, Kate chose a list of light topics by design for a breezy escape of an episode (with the exception of the last that's a bit more serious). Topics include: -An unexpected hormonal side effect -Kate's beef with the Charli D'Amelio / Landon Barker / Huddy triangle -A snorkel through dorm checklist / move-in culture -Ideal Bravo Ultimate Girls Trip, housewives & non-housewives edition -How to define A, B, & C list celebrities and how to stratify across showbiz/sports/influencers/etc. -Caught in a love triangle. What's the beth thing to do? -Does Kate believe in Taylor Swift's rumored skipped album "Karma?" -The Katherine/Kaitlin/Kate/Katie of it all -How to respond to people who say rude things about how much IVF is or saying things like "you should just adopt" etc. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Visit OliveandJune.com/BTIF for 20% off your first Mani System! Get glasses as unique as you are. One pair, infinite style. Starting at just $60. Go to paireyewear.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first purchase. For 20% off your Kindbody at-home fertility test, go to shop.kindbody.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Prose is the healthy hair regimen with your name all over it. Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today! Go to Prose.com/bethereinfive. Right now, Hungryroot is offering Be There In Five listeners 30% off your first delivery and free veggies for life. Just go to Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE, to get 30% off your first delivery and get your free veggies. That's Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE. Don't forget to use our link, so they know we sent you.

This week, Kate is joined by Sami Sage (Co-founder and Chief Creative Officer of Betches) to have a stimulating conversation while they both happen to be stimulating their ovaries. They discuss their respective decisions to freeze embryos (briefly! skip mins 15-25ish if you want to dodge fertility talk), then venture into topics that are half light pop culture and half a deeper religious discussion (Kate's favorite combo!). First, they discuss their feelings about being renters/city dwellers, then talk about TS and her involvement with Crawdads and David O. Russell, Ben and Jen, DeuxMoi's identity reveal, Jen Shah pleading guilty, and Kate's frustration in feeling like Miami swim week on Tiktok is VS fashion show deja vu. Then, Sami shares some of her experiences and observations in the context of Judaism that are related to the topics Kate often covers re: Evangelical Christianity. She discusses the differences between identifying as secular or non-secular, shares some differences about Jewish summer camp relative to Kate's experiences, discusses what purity culture looks like in the context of certain Orthodox practices, explains the antithetical nature of abortion laws, etc. Overall a balanced and interesting episode that hits on hot topics and also provides a helpful perspective about commonly discussed topics on BTI5 in the context of another faith experience. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Allform is offering twenty percent off all orders for our listeners at Allform.com/bethereinfive. Get summer sizzling started with this special ButcherBox deal for our listeners — FREE Bacon for Life of your membership PLUS $10 off! Sign up today at butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE Get 25% off when you go to LIQUIDIV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout Sign up with promo code BETHEREINFIVE for a special offer that includes a 4-week trial, plus free postage and a digital scale. No long-term commitments or contracts. Just go to Stamps.com, click the microphone at the top of the page, and enter code BETHEREINFIVE.

This week, Kate talks through a prompt from a listener about the times somebody said something to you in passing that ended up burned in your brain about your appearance, skills, competence, personality, etc. In a conversation about why words matter (revelatory!!), Kate rages through insults, side comments, and backhanded compliments listeners submitted that were likely meaningless on behalf of the messenger but transformational in their messaging long term. She also discusses her own list of personal experiences with offhanded comments or passive aggression and which are in red, underlined. At one point she also reviews her questionable choice to venture into the anonymous q&a box on Instagram and talks through some other personal musings about people that make a personality type out of being "brutally honest" and what that's really doing for anyone's life. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Go to Framebridge.com and use promo code BTIF to save an additional 15% off your first order Get glasses as unique as you are. One pair, infinite style. Starting at just $60. Go to paireyewear.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first purchase For 15% off your order, go to ableclothing.com/BETHEREINFIVE and enter code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. For 20% off your Kindbody at-home fertility test, go to shop.kindbody.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout Go to Zocdoc.com/BETHEREINFIVE and download the Zocdoc app for FREE.

This week, Kate discusses Evangelical influencers, from more extreme transitions, e.g. a fashion influencer who now offers deliverance from abortion demons (?), to the reality-star-to-preacher-pipeline of young women of faith that are talented public speakers like Duck Dynasty's Sadie Robertson and The Bachelor's Madi Prewett that now use their platforms as ministries. Kate also plays clips from other mid-sized influencers, masochistically watches a couple videos from Girl Defined, and talks a bit about her experience analyzing the persuasive tactics of Evangelical preachers. Specifically, how she draws parallels to motivational speakers and MLMs that all talk in the same way, who do things like verbally paint big metaphors from tiny anecdotes, engineer emotional buildups that culminate with guilt and a scream-crying call to action, and then manufacture feelings of hopefulness after purposefully tearing you down. All in the context of wanting people to be mindful of the people that influence an incredibly influential voting bloc that has taken away our bodily autonomy, White Evangelical Christians. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Helix is offering up to 200 dollars off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners at HelixSleep.com.bethereinfive Get 25% off when you go to LIQUIDIV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout Find your new skincare and body care favorites at OSEAMalibu.com, and get a special discount just for our listeners. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with promo code BETHEREINFIVE. Right now Ritual is offering my listeners 10% off your first three months. Visit ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE and turn healthy habits into a Ritual Right now, Hungryroot is offering Be There In Five listeners 30% off your first delivery and free veggies for life. Just go to Hungryroot.com/BETHEREINFIVE

This week, Kate takes on the topic of P.E. class and snorkels through the obscure political origins of the Presidential Physical Fitness exam, the trauma of locker rooms, public weigh-ins, wearing of never-washed mesh 'pinnies,' and the annual dangling of herself and her dignity from a pull-up bar, among other memorable elements of 90s/00s gym class culture that would likely not hold up today. She also talks about her tall girl complex and body image issues and wonders how metrics of athletic prowess influenced her sense of physical identity, then muses about how not being 'talented and gifted' likely had similar scholastic implications. Mostly she does things like complain about how traumatizing running the mile was for a good 10 minutes, but not before examining the weirdness of loose gym uniform shorts and the frequency of relying on a peer to hold your feet downwind. Part personal anecdote, part historical research, part crowdsourced, this is a lighthearted nostalgic ep that hopefully allows you to escape these trying times over the long weekend. Enjoy! Don't forget to call in and leave a voicemail for an upcoming Kate-lilah! 312.379.9676 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Sign up today at butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE to get 1 pack of free bacon in EVERY box for the life of your membership PLUS $10 off your first order Visit OliveandJune.com/BTIF for 20% off your first Mani System! Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today! Go to Prose.com/bethereinfive Use promo code BETHEREINFIVE at ue.com/fits to get your pair of UE FITS

This week, Kate discusses our obsession with scams and scam documentaries, and does a spin-off of the popular Tiktok prompt of "what's something that is a scam but we've normalized it so much we no longer realize it's a scam?" from her personal list of grievances, e.g. The American Dream, bridesmaid dresses, student loans, only married couples receiving benefits, among other things, and also goes through crowd-sourced submissions of things people think have big scam energy. She also details her disdain for True Crime as entertainment and explores why she prefers this category. However, she begins by discussing the Supreme Court overturning the landmark case of Roe v. Wade announced Friday, while she was away from equipment and had already recorded this week's episode (so forgive her, this section was done very last minute), but she uses the first half-hour to address perhaps the biggest scam of all: that people believe restricting access to abortion care is pro-life when it is unequivocally anti-women and stands to put countless lives at risk by forgoing human rights and medical best practice in favor the intervention of dangerous political and religious ideologies. WORKS CITED https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/URLs_Cited/OT2021/19-1392/19-1392-13.pdf SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Allform is offering twenty percent off all orders for our listeners at Allform.com/bethereinfive Visit Audible.com/bethereinfive or text bethereinfive to 500-500 For 20% off your first Aurate purchase, go to AurateNewYork.com/bethereinfive and use promo code bethereinfive For 20% off your Kindbody at-home fertility test, go to shop.kindbody.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout Go to SHOPIFY.COM/bethereinfive, or a FREE fourteen-day trial and get full access to Shopify's entire suite of features

This week, Kate meanders through the art of the K-12 field trip, sharing her own nostalgia along with crowdsourced funny, poignant, and shocking tales from listeners about their memorable field trips. From obscure locations to buddy system politics, museum gift shop culture, coach buses versus school buses, chaperone assignments, seeing your crush in the wild in street clothes, hookups mid-transit, to processing confusing feelings about historical war reenactments, this episode has something for everyone! She laughed, she cried, she questioned why the public school system wanted us to churn butter so badly. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Get started today - frame your photos or send someone the perfect gift. Go to Framebridge.com and use promo code BTIF to save an additional 15% off your first order FREE Bacon for Life of your membership PLUS $10 off! Sign up today at butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE and use code BETHEREINFIVE Get 25% off when you go to LIQUIDIV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Experience better hydration today For 15% off your order, go to ableclothing.com/BETHEREINFIVE and enter code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout Prose is the healthy hair regimen with your name all over it. Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today! Go to Prose.com/bethereinfive Go to Zocdoc.com/BETHEREINFIVE and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then start your search for a top-rated doctor today. Many are available within 24 hours

This week, Kate discusses the world of dating advice, both interpersonal and professional, from the books she read in her single days like Why Men Love Bitches, He's Just Not That Into You, and other best-sellers like Act Like A Lady, Think Like A Man or The Rules. She also discusses the confusing nature of casual advice we give our peers and loved ones that can be grounded in anecdote despite being delivered as gospel, causing us to weigh the subjective input of others far too heavily on important matters that impact our personal lives. She also discusses how sociopolitical climates influence generational beliefs about relationships and marriage, and how those tropes and cliches taught to young people infiltrate current generations with irrelevant advice about gender roles that deserve a great deal of nuance and free will to be applied to your circumstances (e.g. why buy the cow). Then, since Kate went to California last minute to have a bday drink with her sister, she asks Kelly to chime in as they read listener-submitted examples of advice Beths said their well-intentioned loved ones incessant provide about dating that they find dismissive, condescending, cliche, and/or sexist as single women. This episode is not designed to give advice but to help us all be better friends by analyzing the nature of unproductive input. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Right now, Fuzzy is offering our listeners a FREE 7-Day Trial membership. Go to YourFuzzy.com/bethereinfive today to sign up. Helix is offering up to 200 dollars off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners at HelixSleep.com.bethereinfive. Visit OliveandJune.com/BTIF for 20% off your first Mani System! Get glasses as unique as you are. One pair, infinite style. Starting at just $60. Go to paireyewear.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 15% off your first purchase. For 20% off your Kindbody at-home fertility test, go to shop.kindbody.com and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Right now Ritual is offering my listeners 10% off your first three months. Visit ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE and turn healthy habits into a Ritual.

This week, Kate interviews Ashley Hamilton and Claire Parker from the hit podcast Celebrity Memoir Book Club to talk celeb memoirs, female friendships, past forays into podcasting, e.g. Britney Spears and Lohan's Beach Club, best and worst traits of celeb books, ghost writers, and much more. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Sign up at butcherbox.com/BETHEREINFIVE to receive a FREE Grilling Bundle in your first order. You'll get two, 10 oz ribeyes, 5 pounds of chicken drumsticks, and a pack of burgers for FREE Get 10% off your first order, sitewide, with promo code BETHEREINFIVE at OSEAmalibu.com Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today! Go to Prose.com/bethereinfive\ Go to SHOPIFY.COM/bethereinfive, for a FREE fourteen-day trial and get full access to Shopify's entire suite of features. Grow your business with Shopify today! Use promo code BETHEREINFIVE at ue.com/fits to get your pair of UE FITS!

This week, Kate is joined by her sister Kelly before they leave for vacation to talk about their own (and listener-submitted) personal & influencer travel pet peeves, preferences, vacation stories, thoughts on airport etiquette, and more! Enjoy :) SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Go to Framebridge.com and use promo code BTIF to save an additional 15% off your first order Get 25% off when you go to LIQUIDIV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Experience better hydration today at LIQUIDIV.COM, promo code BETHEREINFIVE For 15% off your order, go to ableclothing.com/BETHEREINFIVE and enter code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout Take your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 15% off your first order today! Go to Prose.com/bethereinfive Go to Zocdoc.com/BETHEREINFIVE and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then start your search for a top-rated doctor today. Many are available within 24 hours