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Sep 17, 2025 • 1h 17min

188. Simple Recipe for Cattle Production with Bruce Shanks

Bruce shares his journey from managing sheep and goats to building a South Poll seedstock operation, the pivotal experiences that shaped his philosophy, and how he balances practicality with profitability. He also reflects on the importance of family, community, and keeping options open in an unpredictable business.In this episode, we cover:Bruce’s background in agriculture and how he ended up in Bell, MissouriTransitioning from sheep and goats to a South Poll-centered cattle operationLessons learned from Burke Teichert and the Rex Ranch about low-input grazing systemsWhy docility and adaptability matter in South Poll cattleRunning sheep and cattle together, and the challenges of small ruminantsHow Bruce markets lambs and develops bulls with his customers in mindThe role of lease land in his operationAdvice for beginners: walk before you run and never say never in grazingWhether you’re a grazier looking to simplify your system, or just curious about the South Poll breed, this episode is packed with practical wisdom and real-world experience. Bruce doesn’t overcomplicate things—his success comes from sticking to the basics. His “simple recipe” offers a refreshing reminder that profitability often comes from focus, discipline, and letting cattle prove themselves in the environment they’re meant for. If you’re thinking about South Polls, sheep, or just streamlining your grazing operation, Bruce’s story will give you ideas and encouragement.Resources mentioned in this episode:Sassafras Valley RanchGreg Judy’s No Risk Ranching (first book)How to Think Like a Grazier by Greg JudySouth Poll Grass Cattle AssociationLooking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmond Agriculture.South Poll Field Day & SaleGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastOriginal Music by Louis Palfrey
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Sep 10, 2025 • 1h 13min

187. Raising South Poll Cattle & Direct-to-Consumer Beef with Josh Harris

Josh shares his journey as a sixth-generation grazier managing South Poll cattle, woodland-raised pork, and pasture poultry with his father. He grew up immersed in rotational grazing from the late 1990s, giving him a unique second-generation perspective on regenerative practices. Josh explains how their family transitioned from commercial breeds to South Polls in 2006, seeing immediate differences in heat tolerance, fly resistance, and docility. Today, they run a registered South Poll herd and market animals both as seed stock and direct-to-consumer beef.Key topics covered:Growing up in a regenerative grazing family and partnering with his dad on the farm.Transition to South Poll cattle and why they thrive in North Carolina’s hot, humid fescue environment.Breeding philosophy with split spring and fall calving seasons.Benefits of docility, adaptability, and calving ease in their herd.Seed stock marketing and demand for South Poll cattle.Building a direct-to-consumer beef business with online sales, pickup locations, and limited home delivery.Diversifying with woodland-raised pork and pasture poultry for both soil and business benefits.Balancing scaling the farm with off-farm work, including lessons from his Chamber of Commerce role.Advice for beginners: focus, clarity, and starting with quality animals or strong customer relationships.This episode highlights the long-term benefits of sticking with regenerative grazing across generations and offers a candid look at building both seed stock and direct-to-consumer businesses. Josh’s experience with South Poll cattle provides valuable insights for anyone considering heat-tolerant, grass-efficient breeds.Resources mentioned:Harris Home Place Farm: harrishomeplacefarm.comFacebook & Instagram: Harris Homeplace FarmSouth Poll Grass Cattle Association: southpoll.comThe End of Craving by Mark SchatzkerSteak by Mark SchatzkerLooking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmond Agriculture.South Poll Field Day & SaleGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastOriginal Music by Louis Palfrey
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Sep 3, 2025 • 1h 26min

186. A Recipe, Not a Prescription: Grazing Insights from the Ozarks with Bob and Ann Demerath

Ann and Bob share their journey from Nebraska crop and cattle farming to building a regenerative grazing operation in the Ozarks. They discuss the challenges of starting over, investing in infrastructure like tire tanks and fencing, and adapting their herd with South Poll genetics to fit their environment. Their story highlights resilience, stewardship, and the pursuit of nutrient-dense beef and healthier soils.Topics covered in this episode:Transition from conventional farming in Nebraska to management-intensive grazing in MissouriDaily moves, portable watering systems, and eventually installing 28 tire tanksExperiences with cattle breeds including Black Angus, Braford, Corriente, and South Poll crossesMarketing steers through private sales, meat business, and occasional sale barnsNutrient-density testing of their beef, showing omega ratios close to wild salmonSoil health improvements, bird diversity surveys, and ecosystem changes on their ranchLessons learned about rest periods, stewardship, and adapting grazing as a “recipe, not a prescription”Future plans as they balance ranch work, family, and personal goalsWhy listen to this episode: Ann and Bob bring decades of hands-on experience, showing how management, not just genetics or land, drives success. From portable waters to garlic salt minerals, they share practical insights any grazier can apply. Their emphasis on stewardship, learning, and resilience will inspire both beginners and seasoned graziers alike.Resources mentioned:Stockman Grass FarmerMan, Cattle and VeldTop of the Ozarks grazing groupRedmond Agriculture mineralsClear Spring Ranch – clearspringranch.comFive Five Coyote Meat Business – fivefivecoyote.comLooking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmond Agriculture.South Poll Field Day & SaleGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles Podcast
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Aug 27, 2025 • 1h 33min

185. Hair, Grass, and Virtual Fences with Todd Barkley

Todd Barkley of Barkley Ranch in Southeast Montana joins us to share his journey as a fourth-generation rancher balancing education, cattle, and regenerative practices. Todd talks about building his cow herd through AI, crossbreeding with Herefords, and now introducing Galloway genetics for winter hardiness and fly resistance. He also dives deep into cover crops, soil health, and the powerful role of epigenetics in shaping cattle for the environment. A major highlight is his firsthand experience with Gallagher’s eShepherd virtual fencing system and how it’s changing the way he manages pastures and labor on his ranch.We cover topics including:Todd’s return to ranching after pursuing a teaching degreeHow CRP programs shaped his family’s operationBuilding his cow herd with Angus, Hereford, and now Galloway geneticsChallenges of managing cattle in a 9–12 inch rainfall environmentThe role of cover crops and organic matter in regenerative systemsWhy epigenetics matters in cattle selectionUsing eShepherd virtual fencing for labor savings and improved grazing managementBalancing innovation with practical ranching realitiesThis episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about how virtual fencing works on a real ranch, or for producers considering breed selection to better match cattle to their environment. Todd’s perspective shows how combining tradition, experimentation, and technology can strengthen both the land and the herd.Looking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmond Agriculture. eShepherdGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles Podcast
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Aug 20, 2025 • 1h 27min

184. Grit, Grazing, and Grass-Fed Dairy with Wyatt Jones

In this episode of the Grazing Grass Podcast, Cal visits with Wyatt Jones of Happy Meadow Farm in Pisgah, Alabama. Wyatt shares his family’s journey from military life to building a thriving grass-based farm, raising beef and dairy cattle, Katahdin sheep, and poultry. Starting in 2021, Wyatt and his wife dove headfirst into regenerative agriculture, learning through mentors, books, and hands-on trial and error. Their story is full of determination, grit, and a willingness to embrace challenges in pursuit of a farming life.Topics covered include:Starting Happy Meadow Farm with limited experience but big visionBuying land at auction and the unexpected blessings that came with itEarly challenges with fencing, livestock health, and learning to rotate animalsUsing blueberries and eggs as initial cash crops to build community connectionsTransitioning from Longhorns and Corriente cattle into South Polls and eventually FleckviehExperiences with sheep, including parasite management and copper issuesExpanding into raw milk sales through herd shares and building a loyal customer baseWyatt’s shift from the fire department to full-time farmingThe potential of Fleckvieh dairy cattle for grass-based systemsPlanting diverse forages and cover crops to support livestock health and productivityThis episode is perfect for anyone starting their regenerative journey, especially those considering multi-species grazing or exploring dairy opportunities beyond Jerseys. Wyatt’s story highlights the power of persistence, community support, and the courage to “just start.”Resources mentioned in this episode:For the Love of Soil by Nicole MastersGrass Productivity by André VoisinDairy Farming the Beautiful Way by Adam KlausHappy Meadow Farm on FacebookLooking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmond AgricultureGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastChapters(00:00) - Introduction and Fast Five Questions (00:59) - Welcome to the Grazing Grass Podcast (01:33) - MarketSMART Ranching Course Announcement (02:25) - Personal Celebration and Family Milestones (03:27) - Wyatt's Journey to Farming (07:02) - Starting the Farm and Acquiring Land (12:49) - First Livestock and Initial Challenges (24:57) - Expanding the Farm and Community Engagement (41:36) - Transition to Dairy Farming (45:36) - The Milking Disaster (47:30) - Getting a Milking Machine (49:27) - The Emotional Attachment to Dairy Cows (52:05) - Exploring Different Dairy Breeds (54:49) - The Fleckvieh Fascination (58:06) - Managing the Dairy Farm (01:08:23) - Marketing Raw Milk (01:09:56) - Transition to Full-Time Farming (01:13:52) - Famous Four Questions (01:24:35) - Conclusion and Next Episode Teaser
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Aug 13, 2025 • 1h 36min

183. Beef is the Waste Product with Hobbs Magaret

In this episode, Hobbs Magaret, author of Herd: Animals That Gave Rise to Humanity and Why We Need Them More Than Ever, joins Cal for a deep, thought-provoking conversation about grazing, ecology, and shifting our perspectives on livestock production. Hobbs shares his journey from ranching in Oregon to working on massive cattle stations in Australia, blending personal experience with philosophical insights. The discussion explores high density grazing, the role of herd animals in human history, how to market regenerative beef, and the radical idea of viewing beef as a waste product rather than the main goal. Along the way, Hobbs touches on corporate politics, ecological ideals, genetic selection for fertility, and the lessons learned from managing vastly different environments.Topics CoveredHobbs Magaret’s background and ranching journey in the U.S. and AustraliaThe origins of his interest in high density grazing (influences from Allan Savory and Johann Zietsman)Moving from a protein-production mindset to an ecological-function mindsetThe concept of beef as a waste product instead of a byproductLessons learned from grazing in Oregon vs. Texas vs. Northern AustraliaManaging corporate politics while implementing ecological changesPerformance art and visibility in agriculture marketingUsing social media (TikTok & Instagram) to grow influence and sell beefThe role of hindgut fermenters in ecosystems and simulating their function with ruminantsGenetic adaptation and breed considerations for different environmentsThe importance of fertility as the key livestock selection criterionMarketing strategies and the value of storytelling in agriculture If you’re interested in the future of regenerative ranching, this episode will challenge your assumptions and spark new ideas. Hobbs brings a rare combination of large-scale experience, ecological philosophy, and practical know-how. Whether you’re grazing a few acres or managing thousands, his insights into livestock genetics, grazing strategy, and the deeper purpose of ruminants will help you think differently about your land, your herd, and your role as a steward.Resources MentionedHerd: Animals That Gave Rise to Humanity and Why We Need Them More Than Ever by Hobbs MagaretAllan Savory’s work and holistic management principlesMan, Cattle and Veld by Johann ZietsmanHow to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale CarnegieLooking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmond AgricultureGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastChapters(00:00) - Introduction and Fast Five Questions (00:52) - Career Journey and Ranching Experience (09:57) - High Density Grazing and Ecological Insights (30:53) - Marketing and Social Media Success (32:23) - Writing the Book and Philosophical Reflections (45:49) - The Central Thesis: Ecologically Aligned Beef (46:46) - Controversial Insights on American Cattle Industry (48:07) - Historical Context and Ecological Impact (49:53) - The Paradigm Shift: Profitability vs. Sustainability (01:01:14) - Genetics and Fertility in Cattle Breeding (01:02:11) - Ecological Adaptation and Market Realities (01:05:36) - Global Perspectives on Cattle Breeding (01:17:44) - The Role of Hindgut Fermenters in Grazing Systems (01:20:01) - Final Thoughts and Reflections
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Aug 6, 2025 • 1h 8min

182. Fat Cows, Happy Plants: The Power of Total Grazing with Jaime Elizondo

In this episode of the Grazing Grass Podcast, Cal visits with Jaime Elizondo, known as Jim in the United States, to explore his Total Grazing Program. This is a comprehensive approach to regenerative ranching focused on lowering costs, improving soil, and increasing livestock performance. With decades of experience managing cattle in Mexico and the U.S., Jim shares his path from red cattle in the tropics to creating a composite breed suited for harsh environments. He breaks down the importance of African Bos taurus genetics, how to build soil carbon, and the strategies behind stockpiling and grazing timing. Listeners will come away with a deeper understanding of how to manage grazing with nature, not against it.In this episode, you’ll hear about:Jim’s story from Mexico to Texas and the foundation of his farm, Las ColoradasHis evolution from red cattle to developing an adapted composite breedThe significance of African Bos taurus genetics in hot, humid, and disease-prone environmentsWhat the Total Grazing Program is and how it differs from ultra high-density grazingHow to build long-lived soil carbon and why it mattersStockpiling strategies for winter and how to boost soil and forage healthMonitoring livestock performance with gut fill and body conditionThe role of coaching and mentorship in successful grazing operationsApplying these grazing principles to cattle, sheep, and goats If you're interested in cutting input costs, improving soil, and raising animals that thrive in your environment, this episode delivers a practical and proven system. Jim offers clear guidance based on firsthand experience. Whether you're on a small farm or a large ranch, his insights can help you improve your land and your bottom line.Resources Mentioned:Grass Productivity by André VoisinMan Must Measure by Jan BonsmaA Sand County Almanac by Aldo LeopoldThe Forage Book by Hutchinson and MetcalfJim’s paper “Soil Carbon” (available on his website)Looking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmond AgricultureGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastChapters
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Jul 30, 2025 • 1h 37min

181. Scaling Regenerative Ranching with Ultra High Density Grazing with Joel Hollingsworth

Joel shares his inspiring journey from business economics and tech startups to building a fast-growing regenerative ranch. He explains how he used herd shares and ultra high density grazing to expand from a small herd to nearly 500 cows in just a few years. Along the way, he discusses developing hardy genetics, navigating serious labor shortages, and creating a supportive network of investors and mentors. Joel blends economics, history, faith, and land stewardship into a powerful vision for the future of ranching.Topics Covered:Launching a ranch with zero capital through herd share partnershipsChoosing Oklahoma for its climate challenges and opportunitiesLessons from tech and startup life that apply to ranchingUltra high density grazing and how it multiplies carrying capacityGenetic selection for cattle that thrive without inputsUsing community and social capital to scaleThe hidden economics behind modern ranch failureAdvice for young or aspiring regenerative ranchersWhy You Should Listen:This episode offers a rare look into what it takes to build a large-scale regenerative operation from the ground up. Joel is not only focused on grazing methods but also on solving the deeper economic, cultural, and logistical problems facing ranchers today. His practical strategies and vision for the future will resonate with anyone serious about making a living on the land.Resources Mentioned:Smoke River RanchBook: Man, Cattle & the Grass by Johann ZietsmanJoel’s handle: @untappedgrowth on X/TwitterLooking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmond AgricultureGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles Podcast (00:00) - Introduction and Fast Five Questions (00:21) - Challenges in Labor and Livestock Management (02:30) - Labor Issues and Solutions (07:38) - Podcast Introduction and Sponsor Message (09:20) - Farm Updates and Podcast Announcements (12:30) - Joel's Journey into Farming (12:49) - Health Crisis and Nutritional Discoveries (16:20) - Educational Background and Career Path (18:50) - Starting the Ranch and Bitcoin Investment (27:05) - Scaling the Ranch and Herd Share Program (39:24) - Challenges and Strategies in Modern Ranching (49:37) - The Impact of Historical Agricultural Practices (50:03) - The Evolution of American Agriculture (51:07) - Challenges and Innovations in Modern Ranching (51:48) - The Herd Share Arrangement (53:06) - Ultra High Density Grazing (55:07) - Building a Supportive Ranching Community (56:15) - The Importance of Hardy Cattle Breeds (01:07:46) - Scaling and Adapting to High Density Grazing (01:14:44) - Future Innovations and Tools for Ranching (01:18:29) - Famous Four Questions (01:34:31) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Jul 23, 2025 • 53min

180. Slow-Grown, Flavor-First: The Mangalitsa Difference with Natalie Hancock

In this episode of the Grazing Grass Podcast, Cal visits with Natalie Hancock of Olde Oak Glen, located near Perkins–Tryon, Oklahoma. Natalie shares her unique journey from the mountains of Greece to raising one of the rarest and most flavorful heritage pigs—Mangalitsa—on 60 forested acres. What began as a love for animals, particularly horses, turned into a passion for pigs after rescuing a potbelly. Now, Natalie is one of the largest Mangalitsa breeders in Oklahoma, producing high-quality pork and skin care products while embracing regenerative and ethical farming practices.In this episode, you'll hear about:How Natalie got started with pigs and why she chose MangalitsaCharacteristics and history of the Mangalitsa breedThe challenges and rewards of raising slow-growing, heritage pigsPasture-based management and natural farrowing practicesWhat makes Mangalitsa pork (and its fat!) so different and nutritiousHow Natalie markets her pork through farmers markets and snack sticksCreative uses of lard for skincare and bakingFeeding practices, mineral use, and maintaining herd healthThe importance of educating consumers and building a direct marketIf you’ve ever been curious about heritage pigs or want to learn from someone doing things a bit differently—and deliciously—this is a can’t-miss conversation. Natalie’s commitment to flavor, animal welfare, and sustainable practices shines through every part of her story.Resources Mentioned:Olde Oak Glen (Natalie's farm)Edmond Farmers MarketRalph’s Processing for private label snack sticksLooking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmondGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles Podcast
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Jul 16, 2025 • 1h 40min

179. Commercial Homesteading with Heart with Daniel and Mandie Stallings

In this episode, Cal sits down with Daniel and Mandie Stallings of Perch & Pasture in Waverly Hall, Georgia. This husband-and-wife team share their powerful story of transitioning from military life to full-time regenerative farming. Sparked by personal health challenges and a passion for nutrient-dense food, they’ve built a diversified farm enterprise that includes raw dairy, beef, pork, poultry, and small ruminants. The Stallings discuss their commercial homestead model, raw milk production, rotational grazing systems, and how they've made their farm accessible and resilient—even during medical setbacks.In this episode, you'll hear about:The Stallings’ health-driven journey into farmingManaging a multi-species farm with dairy cows, goats, pigs, and poultryTheir transition from military to farming and its mental/emotional impactRaw milk licensing in Georgia and working with the Raw Milk InstituteWhy they left Nigerian Dwarf goats behind for NubiansDeveloping resilient systems for a small family farmThe role of education, transparency, and community in their operationTheir work with veterans and the SkillBridge programWhether you're a beginning farmer, a homesteader, or a veteran looking for your next chapter, this episode is full of practical insight and inspiration. Daniel and Mandie show how purpose, adaptability, and thoughtful planning can turn land into a lifeline—and a legacy.Resources & Mentions:Perch & PastureReverence FarmsRaw Milk Institute (RAWMI)SkillBridge Program for VeteransJustin Rhodes & Joel Salatin (mentioned as learning influences)Looking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmondGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastChapters

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