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Aug 6, 2025 • 1h 8min

182. Fat Cows, Happy Plants: The Power of Total Grazing with Jaime Elizondo

In this episode of the Grazing Grass Podcast, Cal visits with Jaime Elizondo, known as Jim in the United States, to explore his Total Grazing Program. This is a comprehensive approach to regenerative ranching focused on lowering costs, improving soil, and increasing livestock performance. With decades of experience managing cattle in Mexico and the U.S., Jim shares his path from red cattle in the tropics to creating a composite breed suited for harsh environments. He breaks down the importance of African Bos taurus genetics, how to build soil carbon, and the strategies behind stockpiling and grazing timing. Listeners will come away with a deeper understanding of how to manage grazing with nature, not against it.In this episode, you’ll hear about:Jim’s story from Mexico to Texas and the foundation of his farm, Las ColoradasHis evolution from red cattle to developing an adapted composite breedThe significance of African Bos taurus genetics in hot, humid, and disease-prone environmentsWhat the Total Grazing Program is and how it differs from ultra high-density grazingHow to build long-lived soil carbon and why it mattersStockpiling strategies for winter and how to boost soil and forage healthMonitoring livestock performance with gut fill and body conditionThe role of coaching and mentorship in successful grazing operationsApplying these grazing principles to cattle, sheep, and goats If you're interested in cutting input costs, improving soil, and raising animals that thrive in your environment, this episode delivers a practical and proven system. Jim offers clear guidance based on firsthand experience. Whether you're on a small farm or a large ranch, his insights can help you improve your land and your bottom line.Resources Mentioned:Grass Productivity by André VoisinMan Must Measure by Jan BonsmaA Sand County Almanac by Aldo LeopoldThe Forage Book by Hutchinson and MetcalfJim’s paper “Soil Carbon” (available on his website)Looking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmond AgricultureGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastChapters
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Jul 30, 2025 • 1h 37min

181. Scaling Regenerative Ranching with Ultra High Density Grazing with Joel Hollingsworth

Joel shares his inspiring journey from business economics and tech startups to building a fast-growing regenerative ranch. He explains how he used herd shares and ultra high density grazing to expand from a small herd to nearly 500 cows in just a few years. Along the way, he discusses developing hardy genetics, navigating serious labor shortages, and creating a supportive network of investors and mentors. Joel blends economics, history, faith, and land stewardship into a powerful vision for the future of ranching.Topics Covered:Launching a ranch with zero capital through herd share partnershipsChoosing Oklahoma for its climate challenges and opportunitiesLessons from tech and startup life that apply to ranchingUltra high density grazing and how it multiplies carrying capacityGenetic selection for cattle that thrive without inputsUsing community and social capital to scaleThe hidden economics behind modern ranch failureAdvice for young or aspiring regenerative ranchersWhy You Should Listen:This episode offers a rare look into what it takes to build a large-scale regenerative operation from the ground up. Joel is not only focused on grazing methods but also on solving the deeper economic, cultural, and logistical problems facing ranchers today. His practical strategies and vision for the future will resonate with anyone serious about making a living on the land.Resources Mentioned:Smoke River RanchBook: Man, Cattle & the Grass by Johann ZietsmanJoel’s handle: @untappedgrowth on X/TwitterLooking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmond AgricultureGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles Podcast (00:00) - Introduction and Fast Five Questions (00:21) - Challenges in Labor and Livestock Management (02:30) - Labor Issues and Solutions (07:38) - Podcast Introduction and Sponsor Message (09:20) - Farm Updates and Podcast Announcements (12:30) - Joel's Journey into Farming (12:49) - Health Crisis and Nutritional Discoveries (16:20) - Educational Background and Career Path (18:50) - Starting the Ranch and Bitcoin Investment (27:05) - Scaling the Ranch and Herd Share Program (39:24) - Challenges and Strategies in Modern Ranching (49:37) - The Impact of Historical Agricultural Practices (50:03) - The Evolution of American Agriculture (51:07) - Challenges and Innovations in Modern Ranching (51:48) - The Herd Share Arrangement (53:06) - Ultra High Density Grazing (55:07) - Building a Supportive Ranching Community (56:15) - The Importance of Hardy Cattle Breeds (01:07:46) - Scaling and Adapting to High Density Grazing (01:14:44) - Future Innovations and Tools for Ranching (01:18:29) - Famous Four Questions (01:34:31) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Jul 23, 2025 • 53min

180. Slow-Grown, Flavor-First: The Mangalitsa Difference with Natalie Hancock

In this episode of the Grazing Grass Podcast, Cal visits with Natalie Hancock of Olde Oak Glen, located near Perkins–Tryon, Oklahoma. Natalie shares her unique journey from the mountains of Greece to raising one of the rarest and most flavorful heritage pigs—Mangalitsa—on 60 forested acres. What began as a love for animals, particularly horses, turned into a passion for pigs after rescuing a potbelly. Now, Natalie is one of the largest Mangalitsa breeders in Oklahoma, producing high-quality pork and skin care products while embracing regenerative and ethical farming practices.In this episode, you'll hear about:How Natalie got started with pigs and why she chose MangalitsaCharacteristics and history of the Mangalitsa breedThe challenges and rewards of raising slow-growing, heritage pigsPasture-based management and natural farrowing practicesWhat makes Mangalitsa pork (and its fat!) so different and nutritiousHow Natalie markets her pork through farmers markets and snack sticksCreative uses of lard for skincare and bakingFeeding practices, mineral use, and maintaining herd healthThe importance of educating consumers and building a direct marketIf you’ve ever been curious about heritage pigs or want to learn from someone doing things a bit differently—and deliciously—this is a can’t-miss conversation. Natalie’s commitment to flavor, animal welfare, and sustainable practices shines through every part of her story.Resources Mentioned:Olde Oak Glen (Natalie's farm)Edmond Farmers MarketRalph’s Processing for private label snack sticksLooking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmondGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles Podcast
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Jul 16, 2025 • 1h 40min

179. Commercial Homesteading with Heart with Daniel and Mandie Stallings

In this episode, Cal sits down with Daniel and Mandie Stallings of Perch & Pasture in Waverly Hall, Georgia. This husband-and-wife team share their powerful story of transitioning from military life to full-time regenerative farming. Sparked by personal health challenges and a passion for nutrient-dense food, they’ve built a diversified farm enterprise that includes raw dairy, beef, pork, poultry, and small ruminants. The Stallings discuss their commercial homestead model, raw milk production, rotational grazing systems, and how they've made their farm accessible and resilient—even during medical setbacks.In this episode, you'll hear about:The Stallings’ health-driven journey into farmingManaging a multi-species farm with dairy cows, goats, pigs, and poultryTheir transition from military to farming and its mental/emotional impactRaw milk licensing in Georgia and working with the Raw Milk InstituteWhy they left Nigerian Dwarf goats behind for NubiansDeveloping resilient systems for a small family farmThe role of education, transparency, and community in their operationTheir work with veterans and the SkillBridge programWhether you're a beginning farmer, a homesteader, or a veteran looking for your next chapter, this episode is full of practical insight and inspiration. Daniel and Mandie show how purpose, adaptability, and thoughtful planning can turn land into a lifeline—and a legacy.Resources & Mentions:Perch & PastureReverence FarmsRaw Milk Institute (RAWMI)SkillBridge Program for VeteransJustin Rhodes & Joel Salatin (mentioned as learning influences)Looking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmondGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastChapters
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Jul 9, 2025 • 1h 32min

178. Grazing Lessons from the Ground Up with Marque Renshaw

In this episode of the Grazing Grass Podcast, we hear from Marque Renshaw of Peace in the Valley Farms in West Plains, Missouri. Marque shares her journey into rotational grazing and the lessons she and her husband Ryan have learned transitioning their operation to focus on sheep. From challenging beginnings—managing animals post-house fire and learning by doing with sale barn ewes—to building a resilient and thoughtful grazing system, Marque's story is both raw and inspiring. Her passion for helping others shines through, especially in her efforts to foster a positive online community and mentor other graziers.Topics CoveredTransitioning from horses and cattle to a sheep-focused operationMistakes and hard lessons from buying sale barn sheepLearning what true rotational grazing is (and what it isn’t)How a house fire catalyzed a new farming chapterThe importance of fencing and learning to love hotwireFinding and building a relationship with a sheep-savvy vetDaily grazing rotations and pasture managementBuilding supportive and judgment-free communities for graziersEducating oneself through podcasts, grazing schools, and mentorshipThe role of women and generational legacy in agricultureWhy You Should Listen If you're managing sheep or considering them for your operation, Marque's journey is full of relatable struggles, practical insights, and hard-earned wisdom. Her transparency about missteps and breakthroughs offers a refreshing and motivating perspective—especially if you're navigating your first years in regenerative grazing.Resources MentionedPeace in the Valley FarmsGrazing Grass Community (Facebook)Grazing Sheep podcast (with Tom and Cam)Vet Caitlyn from Gainesville, MissouriLooking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmondGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastChapters
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Jul 2, 2025 • 1h 4min

177. How Tango Holsteins Embraces Regenerative Dairy Without the Buzzwords with Tom Otton

Tom Otton joins us from the far south coast of Australia to share his journey from growing up on a beef farm to operating a grazing-based dairy with his family. Tom discusses the evolution of his practices, including a heavy focus on multi-species pastures, no-till methods, and regenerative grazing—long before he even knew the word “regenerative.” He shares thoughtful insights on cow genetics, virtual fencing, and the challenges of balancing tradition with innovation, especially in the context of Australia’s extreme weather and regulatory environment.Transition from beef farming to dairy during Australia’s millennium droughtGrazing-based dairy practices with multi-species pasturesImplementing high-density rotation with 2–4 shifts per dayAdoption and legality of virtual fencing in AustraliaUsing sexed semen and beef crosses for herd improvement and profitabilityWinter planting of cereal and forage blends; native summer grass systemsInfrastructure layout with laneways, river watering, and no indoor housingHonest insights on power costs, robotic milkers, and future techPersonal reflections on footwear, decision-making, and doing what works for you Tom’s down-to-earth approach to grazing-based dairying in a region with both drought and flood extremes offers valuable perspective for anyone in livestock. Whether you're intrigued by virtual fencing, cow genetics, or just love hearing how others adapt regenerative principles across the globe, Tom delivers a mix of practical know-how and big-picture thinking.Resources MentionedCall of the Reed Warbler by Charles MassyDirt to Soil by Gabe BrownTango Holsteins on FacebookTango Holsteins on InstagramLooking for Livestock that thrive on grass?  Check out Grass Based GeneticsVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmondGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastChapters
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Jun 25, 2025 • 1h 35min

176. Building Iron Root Pastures from Backyard Chickens to Raw Milk Dairy with Ernie Mathes

In this episode of the Grazing Grass Podcast, Cal talks with Ernie Mathis of Iron Root Pastures in Rising Fawn, Georgia. Ernie shares how he went from suburban New Jersey roots and metro Atlanta life to traveling the U.S. in an RV and finally settling on a dilapidated cow-calf farm to pursue a regenerative, multi-species livestock operation. He discusses starting with backyard broilers, managing raw milk production from his herd of Jerseys, raising pigs and poultry on organic, soy-free and corn-free feed, and why he’s adding rabbits next. Ernie also walks through his portable milking parlor setup, calf-sharing system, and lessons learned in farm infrastructure, grazing systems, and marketing directly to health-focused consumers.Topics CoveredWhy and how Ernie and his family left metro life for farm lifeStarting with 10 backyard broilers and progressing to pasture poultryTransitioning from RV life to settling on a 225-acre propertyDeveloping a direct-to-consumer market with chiropractic clinicsRaising soy-free, corn-free fed chickens, pigs, and layersBuilding a portable milking setup for 8 Jersey cowsImplementing calf sharing with a custom calf shelterUsing belted Galloways and moving toward more heat-tolerant breedsPlans for integrating rabbits and sheepThoughts on A2 milk, sexed semen, and dual-purpose livestockManaging pastures and daily moves using simple infrastructureIf you’ve ever wondered how to go from urban homesteader to full-time grazier, Ernie’s story will inspire and inform you. His creative infrastructure, practical solutions for milking in the pasture, and strong values around health and transparency in food production make this a great episode for new farmers, aspiring dairy graziers, or anyone looking to build a regenerative, direct-to-consumer business. Whether it’s a discussion on milking schedules or raw milk laws, there’s something here for everyone walking a similar path.Resources MentionedIron Root PasturesKentucky Organics (feed mill)Justin Rhodes YouTube ChannelWhite Oak Pastures (Rabbitat project)Visit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmondGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastChapters
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Jun 18, 2025 • 54min

175. Adapting Grazing and Breeding to Harsh Environments with Doug Badcock

In this episode, we head to Zambia to talk with Doug Badcock of Green Lid Enterprises. Doug shares his journey from managing a diverse crop and livestock farm to developing a passion for grazing and livestock management. Situated just miles from the Congo border, Doug discusses the realities of ranching in Zambia’s unique environment—from tropical grasses and fires to high-density grazing and breeding Boran and Angoni cattle. His openness about trial, error, and continual improvement makes this a valuable conversation for graziers everywhere.Topics Covered:Transitioning from conventional to regenerative grazingGrazing livestock near the Congo borderUsing electric fencing in remote areasManaging forage through fire and seasonal rainfallAdjusting calving and breeding seasonsAdapting cattle breed selection to local conditionsHigh-density grazing: when it works and when it hurtsForage management with bananas and corn stalksDifferences between Boran, Sussex, Angoni, and other African breedsUsing line breeding and natural selection in herd developmentDoug Badcock brings a unique perspective to the Grazing Grass Podcast from his farm in Zambia. His willingness to share both successes and challenges—from learning to manage tropical forage to selecting the right breeds for his environment—makes this episode a global look at regenerative grazing principles. Whether you farm in Oklahoma or Africa, you’ll find inspiration and insight in Doug’s honest storytelling and deep curiosity for continual improvement.Resources Mentioned:Green Lid Enterprises Facebook & YouTube: https://youtube.com/@green_lid_enterprises?si=elTGbGeGCylwOuSNhttps://www.facebook.com/share/192BW7WRNN/https://www.instagram.com/green_lid_enterprises?igsh=b2V5OHAwMmk0eG1oJohan Zietsman's book Man, Cattle and VeldCalvin Birioti's YouTube video featuring Doug’s farm Visit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmondGBT AngusGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResourcesCommunity (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastChapters
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Jun 11, 2025 • 1h 15min

174. A Subscription Model Transformed Jeff Siewicki’s Farm Business

Join Jeff Siewicki, owner of Vital Mission Farm in South Carolina, as he shares his unique journey from raising backyard chickens to operating a thriving pasture-raised poultry business. With no farming background, Jeff discusses the trials and triumphs of transitioning to ducks and turkeys. He reveals the challenges of selling wholesale before COVID and how he pivoted to a successful subscription model. Jeff also dives into online marketing strategies and the importance of customer relationships, showcasing how innovation can enhance farm profitability.
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Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 18min

173. Managing 8,000 Acres with Planned Migratory Grazing with Riki Kremers

Riki Kremers joins us from Kremers Ranch in Lance Creek, Wyoming, where she and her family manage 8,000 acres of rough, arid country with Angus-cross cattle, horses, and meat goats. Together with her husband and daughter, Riki has transitioned their operation from traditional set-stock grazing to a powerful combination of Instinctive Migratory Grazing (IMG) and Planned Migratory Grazing (PMG), doubling their stocking rate and reducing feed inputs. With over 20 miles of water pipeline and an impressive track record of adapting to extreme environments, Riki shares hard-earned lessons on stockmanship, infrastructure, and letting nature lead the way. Topics CoveredHistory and evolution of Kremers RanchTransition from February to June calvingBuilding water infrastructure and pasture layoutChallenges with temporary fencing in brittle environmentsTransitioning to IMG and how it rebooted herd behaviorRole of stockmanship and learning from Bob Kin and Ian Mitchell-InnesManaging yearlings separately for summer and winter forage balanceCreating and using "insurance pastures"Shifts in forage species and pasture recovery timesIntegrating horses and four-wheelers into cattle managementWhy You Should ListenIf you're grazing in a brittle or arid environment—or frustrated with conventional rotational systems—Riki’s experience will resonate. She candidly walks us through her family’s grazing journey, showing how thoughtful stockmanship and intentional planning can unlock natural herd behavior and healthier land. Whether you’re looking to reduce feed, improve forage diversity, or double your stocking rate without burning out your pastures, this episode offers actionable wisdom grounded in real-world success.Resources MentionedInstinctive Migratory Grazing SchoolRiki Kremers on FacebookBob Kinford on the Grazing Grass PodcastBob Kinford – Instinctive Migratory GrazingVisit our Sponsors:Noble Research InstituteRedmondGBT AngusGrazing Grass LinksNew Listener Resource GuideProvide feedback for the podcastWebsiteInsidersResources (Coming Soon)Community (on Facebook)Check out the Apiary Chronicles PodcastChapters(00:00) - Introduction and Fast Five with Riki Kramer (01:26) - History and Evolution of Kramer's Ranch (02:07) - Grazing Techniques and Challenges (04:57) - Record Keeping and Ranch Management (09:20) - Transition to Instinctive Migratory Grazing (IMG) (18:08) - Implementing and Refining IMG (33:07) - Stockmanship and Herd Behavior (40:26) - Understanding Animal Communication (40:38) - Four-Wheeler vs. Horseback Communication (42:00) - Benefits of IMG Grazing in Arid Environments (43:12) - Forage Quality and Species Changes (45:14) - Managing Cow Herds and Yearlings (50:50) - Insurance Pastures: A Safety Net for Grazing (56:10) - Upcoming Grazing School Details (01:03:42) - Famous Four Questions (01:14:56) - Conclusion and Takeaways

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