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Demandbase
Sunny Side Up is now 'OnBase', the no-fluff, all-impact B2B podcast bridging the divide between sales and marketing. Hear from the sharpest minds in B2B as they share revenue-boosting tactics and lessons straight from the frontlines and help you solve your toughest challenges.
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Mar 27, 2025 • 22min
Ep. 520 | Beyond the Ticket: Building Award-Winning Support at Demandbase
In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Craig Chiofalo to explore what it truly takes to build and lead a world-class support engineering organization. Craig pulls back the curtain on the operational strategies and tech stack powering Demandbase’s award-winning team—including how tools like Salesforce Einstein and SupportLogic are transforming their approach to proactive support. He also shares lessons on hiring for excellence, scaling impact without ballooning headcount, and why deep, daily collaboration across product, engineering, and customer success is the cornerstone of lasting success.Key takeawaysRight Team, Right Tech: Hiring the right talent, enabling them with strong onboarding and internal tools, and layering in AI-driven technologies can drive exponential impact without scaling the team linearly.Cross-Functional Collaboration Is Everything: Craig attributes much of the team’s success to deep integration with product, engineering, and customer success—teams that work together daily to elevate the customer experience.Award-Winning Process Maturity: From rewritten job descriptions to internal training certifications and advanced sentiment monitoring, Craig’s team has refined its approach year after year to earn industry recognition.Operationalized AI: AI tools like SupportLogic and Salesforce Einstein are leveraged not just for efficiency, but for better sentiment analysis, proactive support, and smarter data insights.Measure What Matters: In addition to SLAs, Craig’s team emphasizes customer satisfaction and effort scores—tracking detailed metrics while staying focused on proactive issue resolution.QuotesOn Team Excellence“This team is phenomenal—not just individually, but in how they collaborate. That synergy is the catalyst behind everything we’ve achieved.”On Leveraging AI Thoughtfully“AI should be seen as an assistant. It's like a dishwasher—you still load it and unload it, but it saves time and effort on repetitive tasks.”(04:00): How Craig rewrote job descriptions and created testing processes to hire and retain top-tier talent.(09:00): A deep dive into Salesforce Service Cloud, SupportLogic, and the internal troubleshooting app that dramatically reduces time to resolution.(14:00): How the team uses data and proactive alerts to prevent fires before they happen.(18:00): Craig’s thoughtful breakdown of AI as a productivity enhancer, not a replacement.Tech RecommendationsSalesforce Service Cloud + Einstein: A central support platform now enhanced with AI capabilities for smarter case handling.SupportLogic: Real-time sentiment analysis and escalation prediction across customer interactions.Resource RecommendationsNewsletter:MIT Technology Review – AI-focused and practicalHarvard Business Review – Daily updates on leadership and strategyMcKinsey – Insightful newsletters with AI-related contentShout-outsUmberto Milletti, Chief R&D Officer at DemandbaseAngelle Stromeyer, RVP Customer Success at DemandbaseErika Setla, Sr. Director, CX Strategy & Ops at DemandbaseAbout the GuestCraig Chiofalo is a customer-focused leader with over 20 years of experience directing customer support, service, and success teams across SMB to enterprise clients. Currently Vice President of Support Engineering at Demandbase, Craig leads a Stevie Award–winning team recognized for delivering outstanding customer service. He brings a proven track record of building high-performing, collaborative teams that exceed goals, with a leadership style rooted in fairness, energy, and a deep passion for technology.Craig has held key roles at IBM, Silverpop, CallRail, Calendly, and Salsify, often joining during critical growth phases to scale operations, implement smart automation, and drive cross-functional alignment. His expertise spans platforms like Salesforce, Zendesk, Jira, Confluence, and SQL—always with a hands-on, data-informed approach to delivering exceptional customer outcomes.

Mar 25, 2025 • 34min
Ep. 519 | Rethinking Outbound: Why Warmbound Is the Way Forward
Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody chats with Maximus Greenwald about reimagining traditional outbound strategies through a concept he calls "warmbound"—the fusion of outbound execution with inbound energy. Maximus walks us through the broken state of traditional lead scoring, the inefficiencies of outdated TAM/SAM/SOM frameworks, and why marketers should own the pipeline.He breaks down how intent signals, AI, and horizontal marketing teams will reshape the future of GTM. Maximus also shares how he tests big bets as a founder, what marketers can learn from enterprise sellers, and how personalization must evolve in the age of generative AI.Key TakeawaysWarmbound, Not Outbound: The strict division between inbound (marketing) and outbound (sales) is outdated. The future is unified, pipeline-first, go-to-market strategies driven by intent.Classic Lead Scoring Is Broken: Rigid filters based on outdated firmographics miss major ICP opportunities. AI can dynamically model what actually drives revenue.Signal Stacking Is the New ICP: Combine CRM, intent data, buyer behavior, and historical signals to build a more accurate, real-time picture of purchase readiness.Marketers Should Own Pipeline: With the right data and tools, marketing can—and should—run outbound motions and be comped like sellers.Horizontal Over Vertical Marketing: Organize teams around the buyer journey stages (cold, warm, hot) instead of just marketing channels.Quotes“Inbound versus outbound is a false dichotomy. Your outbound should drive inbound, and your inbound should fuel outbound. It's all one team now.”“You don’t stay in someone’s TAM forever. SOM is dynamic. A lead heats up, cools down, and reenters. We need systems that move with that fluidity.”Best Moments03:00–05:00 – From Google Maps to SaaS: Maximus shares how he transitioned into sales and marketing.06:30–09:00 – What’s broken in lead scoring—and how AI can fix it.13:00–16:00 – Rethinking TAM, SAM, and SOM as dynamic, not static.20:00–24:00 – The rise of the horizontally structured marketing org.28:00–31:00 – Why marketers should carry a quota—and get paid like enterprise reps.Tech RecommendationsAutobound – An AI-powered sales copywriting tool that personalizes based on deal-winning language.Default – An Inbound lead routing and scheduling engine.Resource RecommendationsPodcast:30 Minutes to President's Club.Report:The 2025 State of Marketing Report by HubSpot.Shout-outsKieran Flanagan – SVP of Marketing at HubSpot.Dave Gerhardt – Founder of Exit Five, formerly Drift.Hunter Walk – Partner and Co-Founder at Homebrew.Finn Murphy – General Partner at Nebular VC.About the GuestMaximus Greenwald is the Co-founder and CEO of Warmly, an AI-powered outbound platform that transforms how companies think about lead generation, pipeline development, and the convergence of sales and marketing. Before founding Warmly, Maximus began his career in engineering and product development at Google Maps, and eventually made the leap from big tech to B2B SaaS entrepreneurship. Today, he helps hundreds of companies unify inbound and outbound strategies under one mission: driving warm leads through smarter, signal-based marketing.Connect with Maximus.

Mar 20, 2025 • 35min
Ep. 518 | Aligning Marketing & Sales Through Authentic Storytelling
Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Susan Bloomfield to discuss the power of authentic storytelling in aligning marketing and sales. Susan shares her journey from research to marketing leadership and how she built her expertise in business development. She dives deep into the three P’s of storytelling—People, Passion, and Purpose—and how they drive engagement and differentiate brands.She also highlights how marketing can support sales in a way that feels genuine, engaging, and human—while still delivering measurable results. If you’re looking to create a brand strategy that resonates and builds strong relationships, this conversation is a must-listen!Key TakeawaysThe Three P’s of Storytelling: A compelling marketing strategy is built on People, Passion, and Purpose—focusing on the human side of business and brand identity.Sales & Marketing Alignment: To effectively align marketing and sales, marketers must ensure that content and branding support real customer conversations.Authenticity Wins: Customers connect with brands that tell relatable, real stories rather than generic, polished corporate messaging.The Role of AI in Marketing: AI can assist with content generation, personalization, and campaign testing, making storytelling and brand engagement more scalable.The Power of Personal Brands: The rise of micro-influencers and relatable voices on platforms like TikTok has transformed the way companies approach brand marketing.Quotes"The best brands amplify success—not just their own, but the success of the people they serve.""If you want to align marketing and sales, you have to make marketing an extension of sales, not just a content factory.""People buy from people. Storytelling isn’t about selling—it’s about building relationships and trust."Best Moments03:00–05:00 – Susan shares her unconventional journey into marketing and business development.10:00–12:00 – How aligning marketing and sales starts with understanding their shared goals.15:00–18:00 – Why brands should focus on relatable storytelling instead of polished, corporate messaging.22:00–24:00 – The impact of AI on content personalization and storytelling.30:00–32:00 – How emerging micro-influencers are redefining brand authenticity.Resource RecommendationsBook: The Long Game – A deep dive into strategic thinking and planning for long-term success.Publication: Fast Company – A go-to resource for thought leadership and marketing innovation.About the GuestSusan Bloomfield serves as Chief Marketing Officer at Stream Realty Partners.After joining Stream Realty Partners in 2019, she has brought a blend of visionary storytelling and advanced marketing strategies to Stream's forefront. Prior to Stream, Susan served as the Vice President of U.S. Marketing & Research for Colliers International, where she played a crucial role as a member of the senior executive team. Her leadership was instrumental in expanding the firm's strategic marketing and research platform, elevating brand visibility, and fostering expansive business growth.Website: StreamRealty.comConnect with Susan.

Mar 13, 2025 • 25min
Ep. 517 | The ABM Optimization Playbook: Balancing Strategy & Execution
Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Caroline Quinn to explore the nuances of optimizing Account-Based Marketing (ABM) strategies. Caroline shares her deep insights on defining the right ABM mix, navigating between one-to-one, one-to-few, and programmatic ABM approaches, and ensuring marketing investments align with business priorities. She also highlights the importance of curiosity, listening skills, and marketing technology in executing successful ABM programs.With practical frameworks and real-world examples, this discussion is essential for marketers looking to refine their ABM strategies and drive meaningful engagement with key accounts.About the GuestCaroline is an enterprise technology marketer specializing in account-based marketing (ABM) and demand generation. At Cloudflare, she drives demand through targeted campaigns for strategic accounts. Her past roles include building a $65M ABM program at Blue Yonder and developing ABM strategies for sellers at tech organizations such as Google and Apple at PipelineIQ. Caroline began her career at Kronos (now UKG).Monterrey.Connect with CarolineKey Takeaways- Balancing the ABM Pyramid: A strong ABM strategy requires the right mix of one-to-one, one-to-few, and one-to-many approaches. Over-rotating on either extreme can lead to inefficient resource allocation.- The Power of Discovery: A successful ABM program starts with deep discovery—marketers must listen to sellers, understand account needs, and customize approaches accordingly.- Tech-Enabled Personalization: While ABM technology can help scale efforts, marketers must also define key engagement signals manually to ensure flexibility and relevance.- Justifying ABM Investments: To secure buy-in for one-to-one ABM, marketers should use intent data, pipeline signals, and phased investment approaches to demonstrate ROI.- Content as an ABM Multiplier: AI-driven content repurposing can significantly enhance the impact of ABM efforts, making it easier to tailor messaging to different segments and accounts.Quotes"The best ABM programs are fluid—accounts should move between tiers based on their intent and engagement."Tech Recommendations- Demandbase – For account intelligence and ABM execution.- Sendoso – Direct mail platforms for personalized account engagement.- Pipeline IQ – For account profiling and intelligence.- Boardroom Insiders – Executive profiling tool for ABM personalization.- Folloze – Landing page and campaign personalization tool.Recommended ResourceBooks:Multipliers by Liz Wiseman – A must-read for leaders aiming to maximize team performance.

Mar 6, 2025 • 25min
Ep. 516 | The Rise of Agentic AI in B2B GTM
Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Chad Holdorf to discuss how agentic AI is revolutionizing B2B go-to-market strategies. They explore the rise of AI-driven agents, why automation leaders are doubling down on AI, and the biggest mistakes B2B teams make with AI adoption. Chad also shares real-world use cases from Demandbase, showing how AI agents streamline workflows, enhance intent-based targeting, and deliver predictive recommendations to sales and marketing teams.If you're a sales or marketing leader, this episode will give you actionable insights on how to integrate AI-powered GTM workflows while ensuring data accuracy, personalization, and efficiency.Key takeaways:AI Agents Are Reshaping GTM – AI-driven agents can help 10x productivity, making teams more efficient while removing friction from sales and marketing workflows.The Biggest AI Mistake – Companies focus too much on the technology itself rather than on solving real customer problems. AI should be outcome-driven.From Data Overload to Actionable Insights – AI-driven intent signals analyze vast amounts of GTM data, surfacing key insights and next best actions for sales and marketing teams.AI SDRs Are Failing Without Context – AI agents that lack proper customer data make embarrassing mistakes, like sending irrelevant emails to buyers who already know the product.Agent Base: AI with Context & Accuracy – Demandbase’s Agent Base ensures that AI-driven sales and marketing actions are informed by accurate, unified data, preventing misalignment between teams.AI Must Be Embedded in the Workflow – AI agents should enhance existing workflows rather than requiring users to switch between multiple tools, ensuring smooth execution.Future of AI in B2B – The next wave of AI will focus on deep research capabilities, personalized recommendations, and predictive actions, eliminating guesswork for GTM teams.Quotes:"The most powerful AI agents aren't just about automation – they’re about solving real customer problems and making revenue teams more effective.""Without the right data, AI agents are just noise. The difference between success and failure in AI-driven GTM is data accuracy and context."Best moments:03:00–05:00: Chad shares his journey to Demandbase and his vision for AI-powered GTM strategies.08:00–10:00: Why AI adoption is skyrocketing but the execution still lags behind in B2B companies.12:00–15:00: Breaking down how Agent Base delivers real-time AI-driven insights without adding complexity.18:00–22:00: The biggest failures of AI SDRs and how data-driven AI agents can solve these issues.25:00–30:00: The future of AI in sales & marketing – from predictive modeling to agent-driven engagement.Tech recommendations:Perplexity AI – AI-powered deep research for customer insights & content generation.OpenAI / Gemini – AI tools for data processing & workflow automation.Book recommendations:The Inner Game of Tennis by W. Timothy Gallwey – A classic on performance psychology & learning through observation.Podcast recommendations:My First Million – A business podcast that breaks down growth strategies & success stories.Leaders to follow:Gabe Rogol, CEO at DemandbaseUmberto Milletti, Chief R&D Officer at DemandbaseKelly Hopping, CMO at DemandbaseMarc Benioff, Chair & CEO at Salesforce.Parker Harris, CTO at SalesforceSign up for AgentbaseMeet Chad at the Forrester B2B Summit (March 30) & EMEA Conference in London (April 30).Sign up for Demandbase’s AI Agent Design Partner Program – coming soon!Follow Chad Holdorf on LinkedIn for AI-driven B2B insights.About the guest:Chad Holdorf is VP of Product at Demandbase, leading product to transform how marketers drive pipeline and revenue. With 15+ years in product, including leadership roles at Pendo, Salesforce, and John Deere, he builds high-performing teams, drives bold product strategies, and delivers results.Connect with Chad Holdorf.

Feb 28, 2025 • 27min
Ep. 515 | Aligning ABX Strategies with Diverse Tech Environments
Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Judit Szabo to discuss the complexities of aligning account-based strategies within diverse tech environments. With organizations facing challenges in tailoring ABX (Account-Based Experience) initiatives across different teams, tools, and processes, Judit shares her insights on how to execute ABX successfully.From understanding skill sets that drive alignment to navigating sales and marketing collaboration, she provides actionable insights on overcoming common obstacles, measuring success, and adapting methodologies for different organizations.Judit also explores the role of AI in account-based strategies, how technology enhances personalization, and why holistic, data-driven approaches are critical for long-term success.About the GuestJudit is a B2B marketing leader with 15+ years at IT Software and Services companies, Judit has PR and Media experience prior to joining the Tech industry. She was the winner of the 2019 Forrester ROI Honours Award in Europe for sales & marketing alignment at TIBCO Software with the introduction of transformative, industry-led value based GTM strategies. She has a strong passion for building and leading global teams with a sweet spot for Demand Generation and Growth Marketing, leading the development and management of integrated marketing strategies and execution to deliver growth and revenue for the business. She has experience in campaign and content management, digital, field, partner, and account-based marketing as well as data and performance-led marketing operations, advocating cross-functional collaboration across Marketing, Sales, Product and Operations with special focus on finding ways to optimise and orchestrate business processes in support of strategic objectives. In her free time, she’s an avid yoga practitioner, as well as a volunteer baker at her local National Trust estate in England.Connect with Judit SzaboKey Takeaways - Holistic Thinking Drives ABX Success – Account-based management isn’t just a marketing function; sales and marketing must work together to grow and penetrate accounts.- Patience Is Essential – ABX is a long-term strategy, not a quick fix. Expect an 18+ month cycle for results, and celebrate small wins along the way.- Data is the Foundation – Strong account intelligence is key to avoiding misalignment and wasted efforts. The right tools and governance ensure that teams are acting on reliable data.- Aligning Sales & Marketing Requires Process, Not Just Intent – Establish shared KPIs, define roles, and create a feedback loop to ensure alignment throughout the account lifecycle.- One-to-One ABX is the Goal, But Requires Strong Foundations – Organizations should first build a solid demand generation engine before scaling to hyper-personalized, one-to-one outreach.- AI Can Help, But It’s Not a Silver Bullet – While AI can assist with personalization, content generation, and automation, it can’t replace the strategic thinking needed to execute ABX effectively.Quotes"The three most important skills for ABX success? A holistic approach, patience, and a data-driven mindset. Without these, execution will fall apart."Recommended ResourceBooks:Coaching for Performance by Sir John Whitmore – A leadership guide on empowering teams and driving success through coaching.

Feb 21, 2025 • 27min
Ep. 514 | How Digital Accessibility Drives Customer Loyalty and Growth
Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Chad Sollis to discuss why digital accessibility is a strategic priority for brands today. Chad shares his journey from graphic design to marketing leadership, highlighting the importance of accessibility in enhancing brand reputation, compliance, and consumer loyalty. He breaks down the key principles of accessibility, how it impacts SEO, and best practices for embedding accessibility into marketing and product development.Key Takeaways-Digital Accessibility is a Brand Imperative: One in four Americans has a disability, representing $20B in buying power. Accessible experiences foster loyalty and repeat business.-SEO and Accessibility Go Hand-in-Hand: Proper use of header tags, alt text, and navigation structures benefits both search rankings and user experience.-Prioritizing Accessibility in Design & Development: Integrating accessibility into design, development, and QA processes ensures it becomes a natural part of content creation rather than an afterthought.-Measuring ROI on Accessibility: Companies that invest in accessibility see improved website traffic, increased conversions, and long-term customer loyalty.Quotes"When companies design for accessibility, they’re not just meeting compliance requirements—they’re creating more inclusive and engaging experiences for all customers."Best Moments 03:00–05:00 – Chad’s unconventional journey from graphic design to marketing leadership.10:00–13:00 – Why accessibility should be a strategic priority for senior leaders.15:00–18:00 – The connection between SEO and accessibility: how structure improves discoverability.22:00–25:00 – Overcoming accessibility challenges and integrating best practices into business processes.30:00–33:00 – How brands can measure the ROI of their accessibility initiatives.Tech RecommendationsStoryblok – Headless CMS that streamlines content personalization and accessibility.Amplience- An AI content platform.Mutiny – AI-driven personalization platform to optimize user experiences.Resource RecommendationsBooks:-Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink-How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale CarnegieShout-outs-Scott Harris, VP of Performance Marketing at Box.com – Marketing expert with a deep understanding of growth strategies.-Nick Rico, Chief Commercial Officer at Lucid Software – Growth leader with a background in finance and marketing.-Manuel Rietzsch, VP, Revenue Marketing at AudioEye – Revenue marketing leader driving accessibility-focused initiatives.About the GuestChad Sollis is a seasoned marketing and product leader with over two decades of experience in driving business growth and innovation across various industries. As the Chief Marketing Officer, Chad spearheads strategic initiatives in brand development, product marketing, growth, revenue operations, and customer engagement.As a data-driven executive, Chad has demonstrated a remarkable ability to scale businesses, having contributed to the growth of companies from $30 million to $3 billion in annual revenue and helping 4 companies execute successful IPOs. With a diverse background that includes leadership roles at market-leading companies such as Adobe, Pluralsight, Vivint, and Traeger, he has generated a wealth of expertise in marketing, digital products, and technology spanning both B2B and B2C sectors.Connect with Chad.

Feb 13, 2025 • 21min
Ep. 513 | The Real Sales KPIs That Drive Business Success
Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Abhishek Damani to discuss the critical role of aligning sales performance metrics with broader business goals. They explore why traditional sales metrics sometimes fall short and how companies can define KPIs that reflect strategic priorities.Abhishek also shares his structured four-step approach for identifying and tracking performance indicators, along with insights into how AI is transforming sales processes. Whether you’re a revenue leader, a sales manager, or a marketer looking to bridge the gap with sales teams, this episode is packed with practical takeaways on driving efficiency and improving business impact.About the GuestAbhishek Damani leads sales enablement for Industrial markets business at Cummins Inc., where he’s responsible for driving sales functional excellence by implementing tools and creating resources, training, and KPIs to improve sales teams’ productivity.Cummins Inc. is a global power solutions leader helping its customers successfully navigate the energy transition with its broad portfolio of products. The products range from advanced diesel, natural gas, electric, and hybrid powertrains and powertrain-related components. Headquartered in Columbus, Indiana (U.S.), since its founding in 1919, Cummins employs approximately 75,500 people committed to powering a more prosperous world.Connect with Abhishek DamaniKey Takeaways- Aligning Sales KPIs with Business Goals is Crucial:Measuring only revenue growth can create misalignment with broader company objectives like profitability or market expansion. Sales teams must tailor their KPIs to reflect business priorities.- Traditional Sales Metrics Have Blind Spots:While win rate and sales velocity are important, they fail to capture long-term trends like customer sustainability goals, industry shifts, and regional sales discrepancies.- Four Steps to Defining Impactful KPIs:Understand strategic and operational business goals.Identify KPIs that track progress toward those goals.Determine how sales contributes to those metrics and what data is required.Measure progress and drive accountability.- AI is Enhancing Sales Processes:From summarizing meeting notes to tracking customer engagement and automating administrative tasks like expense reporting, AI is freeing up valuable time for sales teams.- Bridging Sales and Marketing with Data:Cummins uses a structured business planning process to ensure sales forecasts align with market trends, breaking silos between sales, marketing, and engineering teams.Quotes"If KPIs don’t align with company goals, everyone gets frustrated. Sales meets their numbers, but leadership still isn't happy."Tech Recommendations-reMarkable Paper Tablet – A digital notebook for handwritten notes and organization.- AI-Powered Meeting Note Summarizers – Automating administrative tasks like note-taking and action item tracking.Recommended ResourceBooks:-How Not to Be Wrong: The Power of Mathematical Thinking by Jordan Ellenberg.-The First 90 Days by Michael Watkins.Podcast:-Everyday AI Podcast by Jordan Wilson.Connect with Abhishek Damani| Follow us on LinkedIn |Website

Jan 30, 2025 • 37min
Ep. 512 | Rewiring the GTM Strategy With a Systems-Based Approach
Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Kelly Flowers to discuss the power of systems-based strategy in driving predictable outcomes in sales development. Kelly shares her unique journey into sales, the lessons she learned from transitioning industries, and how she developed a structured approach to pipeline generation, OKRs, and sales efficiency. She also highlights the biggest challenges in sales today, the role of AI in streamlining sales processes, and the myths that hold sales teams back. With practical insights and actionable strategies, this conversation is a must-listen for revenue leaders looking to optimize their go-to-market strategies and drive consistent results.
About the Guest
Kelly Flowers serves as the AVP, of Global Sales Development at SentinelOne and previously held positions including Head of Sales and Business Development at 1Password, Director of AMER Sales Development at Databricks, and Senior Manager of Customer Success, Enterprise Renewals at New Relic, Inc.
Additionally, Kelly has experience as a Manager of Sales Development and as an SDR Manager at Wizeline, as well as serving as the San Francisco Community Chair for Women in Sales Everywhere (WISE). Kelly holds a degree in Global Studies & Spanish, International Relations from Sonoma State University and has also studied Spanish Language at Tecnológico de Monterrey.
Connect with Kelly
Key Takeaways- Systems Thinking vs. Goal Setting: Goals help you achieve one-time success, but systems-based strategies ensure sustainable, repeatable success.
- Pipeline Predictability Comes from Process: Breaking down the sales cycle into measurable inputs and outputs helps reps consistently hit quota.
- Behavior Matters as Much as Performance: Being a "quota crusher" isn’t enough—collaboration, integrity, and consistency are key to long-term success.
- AI as a Sales Multiplier, Not a Replacement: Sales professionals must leverage AI tools for research, prioritization, and process automation—but human connection remains essential.
Quotes
"Revenue intelligence makes arguments about 'who said what' obsolete by providing unfiltered, real-time data everyone can trust."
Recommended Resources
Books:- Setting the Table by Danny Meyer
Newsletter:
- Endurance by Katie Ceccarini
Podcast:
- Grit with Joubin Mirzadegan
Connect with Kelly | Follow us on LinkedIn | Website

Jan 21, 2025 • 44min
Ep. 511 | Elevating Account-Based GTM with Revenue Intelligence
Episode Summary
In this episode of OnBase, hosts Chris Moody and Alicia Hale sit down with Udi Ledergor to explore the transformative power of revenue intelligence in account-based go-to-market strategies. Udi shares insights from his extensive career, breaking down the evolution of revenue intelligence, its impact on sales and marketing alignment, and the role of AI in reshaping the buyer experience. With thought-provoking anecdotes and actionable advice, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways for revenue leaders aiming to drive growth and foster collaboration.
About the Guest
Udi Ledergor is a five-time Marketing leader at B2B start-ups and is currently the Chief Evangelist at Gong. On his journey from Marketer #1 to Gong’s Chief Marketing Officer, he led the creation of the revenue intelligence category, pioneered an iconic, human-centric brand, and led Gong's Marketing efforts from zero to hundreds of millions in revenue.
Passionate about startups and brands during the day, whisky, music, and social activism at night, Udi is also an author, speaker, mentor, angel investor, board member, and advisor based in San Francisco.
Connect with Udi
Key Takeaways
- CRM is Becoming Obsolete: Traditional CRM systems fail due to partial, delayed, and biased data. AI-driven tools like Gong are set to replace outdated CRM workflows by automating updates and delivering accurate, real-time insights.
- The Power of Mirroring in Sales: Reps who mirror a buyer’s language, including subtle use of swearing, can build rapport and improve win rates by up to 8%.
- Sales Success Lies in Listening: Reps who speak less than 46% of the time on calls outperform those who dominate conversations, highlighting the importance of listening to buyer needs.
- Revenue Intelligence Fuels Team Alignment: By providing a single source of truth, Gong removes guesswork, aligning sales, marketing, and rev ops on shared data and actionable insights.
- AI Enhances Buyer Engagement: From instant call summaries to personalized follow-ups, AI simplifies workflows and improves the buying experience, making it more efficient and human-centered.
Quotes
“Revenue intelligence makes arguments about ‘who said what’ obsolete by providing unfiltered, real-time data everyone can trust.”
Recommended Resource
Books:
- Think Again by Adam Grant
- Red Notice by Bill Browder
- Freezing Order by Bill Browder
Connect with Udi | Follow us on LinkedIn | Website