

Dev Interrupted
LinearB
Dev Interrupted is the go-to podcast for software engineering leadership. Each week, hosts Andrew Zigler, Ben Lloyd Pearson, and Dan Lines sit down with industry experts to explore the strategies, struggles, and stories behind high-performing software teams. Paired with weekly industry news coverage, the conversations dive deep into the real challenges that define excellence in modern tech.
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Nov 14, 2023 • 22min
Labs: Programmable Workflows & Policy-as-Code | Ben Lloyd Pearson
In this podcast, the topics discussed include the challenges in the code review process, the importance of programmable workflows in automating software deployment, the benefits of Gitstream in improving efficiency, and the extension of the Dora framework to improve developer happiness.

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Nov 7, 2023 • 32min
Career Journey 6: Your Invitation to the Boardroom
Conor Bronsdon, an engineering leader with a voice in the board meetings, shares insights on rising through the ranks. Topics include balancing tough decisions, team well-being, maintaining technical edge while speaking in business terms, and aligning engineering and product culture with business goals.

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Oct 31, 2023 • 36min
Getting Unstuck in Your Career | Charles Max Wood
Join Conor Bronsdon and Charles Max Wood, CEO of Top End Devs, as they discuss strategies to overcome career stagnation for developers. Topics include showcasing your work, building strong networks, and continuous learning. Gain valuable insights and practical tools to confidently navigate today's complex tech landscape and get 'unstuck' in your career.

Oct 24, 2023 • 40min
Career Journey 5: Bringing Diversity to Tech Leadership | Bhavini Soneji
Bhavini Soneji, an engineering leader with expertise in bringing diversity to tech leadership, joins host Dan Lines to discuss the importance of diversity in engineering leadership. They explore the benefits of varied perspectives, creativity, and knowledge sharing. They also share strategies for encouraging diverse hiring and promoting diversity and inclusion within companies.

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Oct 17, 2023 • 45min
Unpacking DORA’s State of DevOps Report | Nathen Harvey
Head of Google Cloud's DORA team, Nathen Harvey, discusses the key findings from the 2023 DevOps report, including the impact of change approval processes and trunk-based development on software delivery performance. He also emphasizes the importance of organizational system design, leadership, and developer-led improvement for enhancing team performance and collaboration.

Oct 10, 2023 • 39min
Career Journey 4: Product-Led & Customer-Obsessed | Bhavini Soneji
Experienced engineering leader Bhavini Soneji discusses building customer-focused engineering organizations. They dive into the meaning of being 'customer-obsessed' and share secrets to maintaining customer passion beyond product launch. They also touch on differentiating elite VPs of engineering/CTOs from average ones and strategies to engage engineers post-launch.

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Oct 3, 2023 • 41min
Where are all the laid-off software developers going? | LeadDev’s Scott Carey
Scott Carey, Editor-in-Chief of LeadDev, discusses the job landscape for laid-off software engineers and the challenges faced by non-traditional tech companies in hiring engineers. They also touch on the major trends within the engineering community and the upcoming LeadDev conferences.

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Sep 26, 2023 • 48min
Career Journey 3: Assembling & Nurturing Engineering Teams | Code Story's Noah Labhart
Noah Labhart, CTO at Veryable and host of Code Story, shares insights on assembling and nurturing engineering teams. Topics include feedback, hiring developers vs programmers, treating programming as an art and a science, and the importance of setting up a great engineering team.

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Sep 19, 2023 • 43min
The McKinsey Developer Productivity Debate | Ori Keren & Kelly Vaughn
The debate on measuring developer productivity has arrived - and it’s here to stay. On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, cohost Conor Bronsdon welcomes LinearB cofounder & CEO Ori Keren and Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI, to offer their critiques of a debate that has captured the attention of the engineering community: can you measure developer productivity?Consulting giant McKinsey published an article that ignited a firestorm, prompting industry leaders Kent Beck and Gergely Orosz to counter with a detailed 2-part response via the Pragmatic Engineer.Believing the industry to be at a crossroads, Ori and Kelly combine forces to offer their perspective on the debate, sharing why it’s an opportunity for dev teams everywhere to “roll out metrics the right way.”Show Notes:The McKinsey article: Yes, you can measure software developer productivityOrosz & Beck 1: Measuring developer productivity? A response to McKinsey, Part 1Orosz & Beck 2: Measuring developer productivity? A response to McKinsey, Part 2CTO Board SlidesKelly's newsletter: Lessons in Engineering LeadershipRegister for the 2023 Engineering Benchmarks Report Release WebinarSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

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Sep 12, 2023 • 47min
Career Journey 2: Essential Skills & Key Attributes | Thiago Ghisi
Thiago Ghisi, Director of Engineering at Nubank, discusses the essential skills and key attributes of engineering leaders. They talk about efficient decision-making, developing new features, taking ownership and responsibility, and the four Ps of engineering leadership. The episode also includes promotions for the guest's podcast and the show's Substack.