

Dev Interrupted
LinearB
Dev Interrupted is the go-to podcast for software engineering leadership. Each week, hosts Andrew Zigler, Ben Lloyd Pearson, and Dan Lines sit down with industry experts to explore the strategies, struggles, and stories behind high-performing software teams. Paired with weekly industry news coverage, the conversations dive deep into the real challenges that define excellence in modern tech.
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Jul 23, 2022 • 51min
How a Trained Therapist Diagnoses Healthy Dev Teams w/ Engineer & Entrepreneur, Kelly Vaughn
Not only is Kelly Vaughn one of the pioneers in building thought-leadership content for the developer community, she’s one of the rare programmers who comes to the craft with the background of a trained therapist.From knowing what content devs need to grow to being able to recognize the cognitive-behavioral impacts of the developer experience, Kelly Vaughn is truly one of our most unique guests to date.In our conversation, Kelly leveraged her background as a therapist to explore what dev orgs should be doing to recognize developers as unique human beings, with their own feelings, motivations and biases.A discipline-crossing discussion, this pod is invaluable if you’re thinking about what a healthy dev team should look like as well as how to build one.Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/Register for Interact on October 25th: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/ Kelly's book recommendations: Crucial Conversations, The First 90 DaysWant to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterruptedHave 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple PodcastsSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Jul 16, 2022 • 49min
The Dangers of Shipping at All Costs w/ CEO & Cofounder of 33 Teams, Drew McManus
In a field like engineering, to have a truly unique 30,000-feet view of the profession, you need someone with 30 years of experience in adapting, innovating and creating in the space.That’s why we were so excited to talk to Drew McManus, CEO and Cofounder of 33 Teams.An engineer who’s helped shape the formative years of Apple, Adobe and so many more companies you have on your phone right now, Drew McManus is now advising rapidly growing dev orgs across the world at 33 Teams.Drew is an oracle (no pun intended) on how to see dev orgs as living organisms, identifying the structural, psychological and technological maladies keeping teams from becoming who they aspire to be.In our conversation, we touch upon everything from tech debt, to unlocking creativity to the all-too-common danger of shipping at all costs.If ever there was a way to download 30 years of engineering leadership in one hour, this is it.Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/Register for Interact on October, 25th: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/ 33 Teams website: https://www.33teams.com/ Contact Drew: drew@33teams.comWant to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterruptedHave 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple PodcastsSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Jul 9, 2022 • 36min
What a Healthy Relationship with Open Source Looks Like ft. GitLab's John Coghlan
There’s an open secret about open source: Developers use it. Teams use it. Businesses use it. But no one really thinks about how they contribute to it.That’s why we jumped at the chance to get a state-of-open-source discussion with Gitlab’s John Coghlan, Senior Manager of Developer Advocacy.Someone who joined the open source community with the goal of making developers’ lives better, John came to the table with a wealth of insights into just how individual engineers leverage open source, how businesses leverage it and, most importantly, how to make our relationship with open source better - not just for you and me, but for the community as a whole.We hope you find this candid conversation on how to be thinking about using open source in the right ways as empowering and insightful as we did!Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/Register for Interact on October, 25th: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/ GitLab Commit: https://about.gitlab.com/events/commit/Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterruptedHave 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple PodcastsSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Jul 2, 2022 • 41min
How to Train Devs to Disrupt Industries w/ Lessen's CTO Chris Bee
Not all dev orgs work in all situations. Especially if your dev org is looking to completely reshape and disrupt an entire industry.That’s why we were so excited to talk to Chris Bee, CTO of Lessen.Lessen is looking to change the way property owners hire vetted professionals for renovation, maintenance and turn services. That means so much of what their programmers are building hasn’t been built before.Chris opened up about how the company trains and empowers developers to design and build things customers didn’t know they wanted. He also goes in depth about how to bring those new ideas to market when it can seem like the ground is shifting every minute.Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/Lessen's website: https://www.lessen.com/ Chris' website: https://www.chrisbee.com/Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterruptedHave 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple PodcastsSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Jun 25, 2022 • 53min
Creating a Better CTO Playbook w/ Dama Financial's CTO Zach Goldberg
Fact: There are guidebooks for everything in programming except for actually leading, managing and inspiring programmers.That’s why I was so happy to have my friend Zach Goldberg on the podcast.Someone who has made learning and self-improvement a core pillar of his professional and personal life, Zach Goldberg is someone who I turn to when I need to know who smart CTOs are turning to.In this great conversation, Zach talks about the most important things he’s learned in separating signal from noise in the realm of engineering leadership. He also provides some amazing guidance on who you should be listening to (when you’re not listening to us). Enjoy.Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/Zach's reading list: http://go.zachgoldberg.com/readinglistWant to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterruptedHave 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple PodcastsSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Jun 18, 2022 • 47min
The Best Solution to Burnout We’ve Ever Heard | A Conversation With Slack, Netlify & Ambassador Labs
With registration for our free October Interact conference now open, we wanted you to hear one of our favorite sessions from this past April’s Interact.Featuring the best minds from Slack, Netlify and Ambassador Labs, our session on Inspiring Engineering Leaders & Driving Developer Creativity turned into one of the best conversations we’ve ever heard on topics like dev toil, dev focus and dev burnout.This is a great preview of the type of content we’re working on for our conference in October, and this panel completely made us rethink how we approach burnout at LinearB.If you like it as much as we do, be sure to sign up for October’s free, virtual Interact conference at: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterruptedHave 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple PodcastsSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Jun 15, 2022 • 50min
Labs: What Do Elite Dev Teams Look Like? w/ Ori Keren, Co-Founder & CEO of LinearB
In an industry that has trouble looking beyond the next sprint, it’s good to know there are very smart people researching the conscious and unconscious pain points keeping devs from focusing on what they actually want to do: code.In our new series LinearB Labs we’ll be looking at the most interesting research on how devs work, communicate and code.The best way to start should be understanding what is actually a well-performing engineering org versus one that’s struggling. That’s why we’re so excited to have Ori Keren, co-founder of LinearB, as our first guest to discuss the results of the first-ever “Engineering Benchmarks Report.”The product of comprehensively analyzing the work of almost 2,000 dev teams, “The 2022 Engineering Benchmarks Report” is the first EVER look at what performance metrics make engineering orgs elite, average or underwhelming.We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did and that you’re able to find out where your dev team ranks as well as concrete ways to improve.Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/Compare your team metrics to industry standards in < 5 mins: Get My MetricsWant to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterruptedHave 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple PodcastsSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Jun 11, 2022 • 60min
Getting the Respect Your Work Deserves: A Live Workshop w/ Engineering Coach Lena Reinhard
The last thing anyone who does great work should be doing is having to take time out from doing great work to promote it to their higher-ups. Unfortunately, until the person you report to achieves omnipotence, you’re going to have to make sure their perception of your work lines up with the quality.In fact, when we asked our community what issue they would want professional coaching on, it was this: How to improve the impression of your work.With the help of the great Lena Reinhard, engineering & executive coach, we’re giving a practical solution to this problem.Designed as a real-time workshop where you should be thinking about the questions and answering them yourself, this was a game-changing conversation for us and hopefully a game-changing way for your work to get the respect it deserves.Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/Lena's website: https://lenareinhard.com/Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterruptedOur Website ►► devinterrupted.com/Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.Have 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple PodcastsSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

Jun 4, 2022 • 45min
The 2 Things You Ask Your Team When You Pass $1B w/ Hippo’s VP of Engineering
When you think of a billion-dollar tech company, you probably imagine rooms full of monitors with dashboards and non-stop data streams.Well, after talking to Hippo - a certified unicorn and newly minted giant in the insurance industry - we realized this couldn’t be further from the truth.Mike Gordon, VP of Engineering at Hippo, sat down with Dev Interrupted to chat about what it’s actually like to run the dev teams powering a company that just passed a $1 billion valuation.His insights about what actually matters to him were amazing for how simple, focused and – brilliant – they are.A great conversation on what’s important to a company re-writing the rules of insurance, Mike Gordon is by far one of the most thoughtful-yet-pragmatic minds we’ve had on yet.Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/Hippo is hiring: https://www.hippo.com/careersJoin our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterruptedOur Website ►► devinterrupted.com/Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.Have 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple PodcastsSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

May 28, 2022 • 34min
The Quest to Build the Perfect Bot w/ Ubisoft's Joshua Romoff
Almost every single company we talk to focuses on having their engineering teams solve problems.This is why we jumped at the opportunity to talk to Joshua Romoff from Ubisoft.Why? The goal of gaming companies isn’t so much to solve problems, but to enrich their customers’ lives.That’s a unique, powerful change in how to think about building, developing and shipping features. Something that required Ubisoft to bring in Research Scientists like Joshua to figure out just what it is customers engage with in their games and how to give them more of it using AI.Whether or not you're a gamer, this is a fascinating conversation on how every engineering team should think about building self-improving features.Dev Interrupted survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/PRYRNC5Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/Ubisoft La Forge's website: https://montreal.ubisoft.com/en/our-engagements/research-and-development/Join our Discord Community ►► discord.gg/devinterruptedOur Website ►► devinterrupted.com/Want to try LinearB? Book a LinearB Demo and use the "Dev Interrupted Podcast" discount code.Have 60 seconds? Review the show on Apple PodcastsSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever