
The Hannah Frankman Podcast
Conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom — all in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.
Latest episodes

18 snips
Nov 9, 2023 • 1h 36min
Graham Frey: Will Risk Harm or Help Your Kids?
Graham Frey, an education expert, discusses problems in the education system, implications of technology, choosing the right school, free-range parenting, cultivating a healthy relationship with risk, building resilience in children, and reimagining education.

Nov 2, 2023 • 1h 54min
Jimmy Soni: Navigating the Modern Landscape of Literature and Learning
Jimmy Soni is an award-winning author. His latest book, THE FOUNDERS: The Story of PayPal and the Entrepreneurs Who Shaped Silicon Valley, was a debut best-seller and has earned praise from the Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The New Yorker, and The Economist.
Expect to hear Jimmy’s opinions on cancel culture, how learning and writing has changed in the age of social media, the significance of cultivating discipline and accountability as a creator, and Jimmy’s experience starting a Pod school for his daughter in New York City during the pandemic and how it changed his perspective on the education system as a whole.
You can find links to all of Jimmy’s books below.
Chapters:
00:00 - Jimmy Soni
02:15 - Cancel Culture's Impact on Public Figures and Authors
07:25 - The Downstream Effects of Cancellation
17:21 - Impact of Social Media on Books and the Writing Process
27:39 - Shifts in Learning and Accessibility in the Information Age
35:16 - Documenting Memories for Learning and Growth
38:25 - Project-Based Learning and Parenting
44:34 - Teaching Creativity and Entrepreneurship to Kids
49:03 - Encouraging Children to Read
55:34 - Starting a Pod School During Pandemic
01:06:32 - The Benefits of Pod School Education
01:11:40 - Autonomy and Flexibility in Education
01:19:20 - Unconventional Education Methods and Self-Directed Learning
01:26:15 - Exploring the Spectrum of Education
01:38:25 - Balancing Passion, Practicality, and Discipline for Writers and Creators
01:50:47 - Planning a Future Conversation or Event
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Wanting - Luke Burgess
Connect with Jimmy Soni:
Website | jimmysoni.com
Twitter | @jimmyasoni
Jimmy’s Books:
The Founders
Jane’s Carousel
A Mind at Play
Rome’s Last Citizen
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | @hannahfrankman
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Oct 26, 2023 • 1h 18min
Ryan Delk: Building the Future of Microschools
Ryan Delk, founder of Primer, discusses the challenges of building microschools, empowerment in education, making alternative education accessible, technology integration, teaching interactions, and expansion plans.

Oct 19, 2023 • 1h 39min
Sky King: Lessons from an Advertising Man
This week I’m speaking with Sky King. Sky is a podcast consultant who has worked with some of the biggest names in podcasting such as Chris Williamson, Aubrey Marcus, and many more. Sky was extremely helpful in the process of launching this show and is a deeply studied student in the art of advertising, marketing, and podcasting.
In this episode we explore the ever-evolving media landscape, with an emphasis on podcasting and its increasing significance in a world bombarded with superficial news content. We discuss the history of advertising and marketing, the biggest campaigns that have worked throughout the years, and how advertising has changed over the years. We also dive into Sky’s story; How he connected with the likes of Ryan Holiday and Aubrey Marcus, and why he chose to leave his comfortable job in the pharmaceutical industry to go make smoothies at Onnit. Sky shares his thoughts on AI, examining the 'walled garden' concept and its influence on our interaction with technology. We explore the role of institutions in our lives, and the moral dilemma of fighting entropy. We also dive in to the evolution of the podcasting space and how video content is blurring the lines of what a podcast really is.
Chapters:
0:00 - Sky King
0:30 - Sky’s morning routine
4:30 - Sky’s journey in advertising and why he became interested in podcasts
14:30 - The Impact of News and Social Media
20:00 - How Sky got involved in the podcast world
29:00 - Positioning and Brand Strategies
31:00 - Building a successful podast
38:06 - Is podcasting dead?
43:30 - The evolving landscape of podcasting
45:50 - Advertising and Media Influence
55:53 - The Walled Garden Concept
1:00:30 - Finding an Entrepreneurial Niche
1:18:00 - Bridging the Gap and Meeting Influential People
1:30:30 - Fostering Presence
1:35:00 - The Power of Surfing
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Tim Ferris Adam Robinson Episode
The Brass Check - Upton Sinclair
Conspiracy - Ryan Holiday
Purple Cow - Seth Goden
Propoganda - Edward Bernays
Connect with Sky King:
Twitter | @consumersky
Instagram | @iamaskyking
Podcast | Sky King’s Mental Playground
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | @hannahfrankman
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Oct 12, 2023 • 1h 28min
Kerry McDonald: Are Microschools the Future of American Education?
Kerry McDonald, a well-versed advocate for alternative education, discusses the history of American education, rise of homeschooling/micro-schooling, and the impact of COVID-19. The episode explores the challenges faced by education entrepreneurs, the concept of micro schools and their different approach, and available financial resources for alternative education.

Oct 5, 2023 • 1h 58min
Isaac Morehouse: Is the Degree Dead?
In this episode I’m speaking with Isaac Morehouse, the founder of Praxis. Praxis is a year-long startup apprenticeship program that helps young people land jobs to give them real-world business experience. Isaac is a rebellious advocate for bucking the system in all areas of live.
In this episode, we talk about Isaac’s personal homeschooling experience, the way he chooses to educate his own children, the myths around homeschooling, whether or not alternative education is only for the privileged, what he learned working with start-up founders and entrepreneurs, and what it truly means to be successful in the world. We also talk about why it’s important for entrepreneurial young people to learn things like philosophy, history and economics to land positions in the workforce, how to cultivate work ethic and curiosity in your kids, and what it means to live a life on you own terms.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
8:14 - Recent pushback on the Hannah Frankman Podcast
12:30 - Doing what you can with what you have
21:15 - Changes Isaac has seen in the education landscape
32:30 - A shift in understanding of how to approach education
42:30 - How to use your values to determine your choices
53:00 - How Isaac makes decisions regarding the education of his kids
57:00 - Isaac’s homeschooling experience
1:03:0 - How Isaac’s education cultivated a strong work ethic
1:11:30 - How Isaac became an entrepreneurial thinker
1:17:30 - The genesis of Praxis
1:34:30 - How Isaac chose to build the Praxis curriculum
1:45:00 - How to cultivate curiosity in yourself and your children
1:55:30 - How to connect with Isaac
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Connect with Isaac Morehouse:
Website | isaacmorehouse.com
Twitter | @isaacmorehouse
Email | isaachmorehouse@gmail.com
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | @hannahfrankman
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

24 snips
Sep 28, 2023 • 1h 39min
Ste Lane: The Intersection of Health and Education
Ste Lane, holistic health coach and host of Radical Health Radio, discusses raising whole humans, shaking up traditional education, patterns in clients struggling due to their education, and setting children up for success. They explore the intersection of health and education, questioning societal norms, reevaluating success, homeschooling as a holistic approach, and reassessing our values to prioritize playfulness and curiosity.

Sep 21, 2023 • 2h 2min
Tim Chermak: Education Is Not Synonymous With Schooling
Marketing consultant, author, and speaker Tim Chermak discusses the distinction between education and schooling, the power of perspective, fostering curiosity, and hiring based on initiative rather than education. They also explore the value of entrepreneurship as a form of education and Tim's experience with hiring unconventionally educated individuals, including high school students. Tim's well-read and self-educated background adds depth to the conversation.

Sep 14, 2023 • 2h 21min
Michael Ellsberg: The Future of Work and Education in an AI World
Michael Ellsberg is the author of The Education of Millionaires and The Last Safe Investment. As a writer, Michael is in a field that is quickly being subsumed by Artificial Intelligence and Michael has devoted a lot of his time thinking and writing about the implications of AI in the career and education landscapes.
In this episode, we dive into some of the pressing questions around the future of AI; What jobs is AI going to take away? What skills should we be learning to remain competitive? Should AI be a part of the classroom? We discuss Michael’s opinions on college, his thoughts on critical thinking and his critiques on higher education’s lag in adopting technology and trends. Michael also shares his favorite generative AI tools and gives practical advice on how we can use AI to enhance our productivity and sharpen our thinking
Chapters:
0:00 - Michael Ellsberg
4:30 - The genesis of Michael’s books
12:00 - Viewing yourself as the asset
15:30 - What are superskills?
17:00 - AI in the education space
24:00 - AI is changing copywriting
30:00 - What is the benefit of learning how to write with these tools at our disposal?
44:00 - How does the AI revolution compare to the biggest changes in history
57:30 - The future implications of AI in the field
1:07:00 - The future of AI in education
1:23:30 - What are the fundamental skills to obtain in the age of artificial intelligence
1:43:00 - Is learning to write still important?
1:47:00 - Using AI to sharpen your thinking
1:50:30 - What is critical thinking?
1:59:30 - Why does education take so long to catch up with technology and trends
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
The Last Safe Investment
The Education of Millionaires
claude.ai
Death of an Author - Aidan Marchine
The Box - Marc Levinson
What is it Like to Be a Bat?
Breaking Smart - Venkatesh Rao
Connect with Michael Ellsberg:
Website | ellsberg.com
Twitter | @MichaelEllsberg
Facebook | Michael Ellsberg
Books | The Last Safe Investment
The Education of Millionaires
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | @hannahfrankman
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.

Sep 7, 2023 • 1h 29min
Audrey Wisch: Inspiring Kids to Find Their True Passion
Today I’m talking to Audrey Wisch. Audrey was a traditionally educated, classic straight-A student who eventually got into Stanford for her undergrad education. During covid, she started Curious Cardinals, a “side-hustle” that quickly turned into a full fledged education business that led her to dropping out of college.
In this episode we talk about how she has built her business, how she thinks about providing mentorship and education to K-12 students, education in the digital age, her experiences at Stanford compared to her experiences with entrepreneurship and her overall perspective on how the education system has changed. Audrey brings so much energy and enthusiasm to this conversation and provides so much hope for the potential improvement of K-12 education in the years to come.
Chapters:
0:00 - Audrey Wisch
6:30 - Audrey’s education experience
11:30 - Audrey’s experience at Stanford
16:00 - The genesis of Audrey’s start-up, Curious Cardinals
23:20 - Audrey’s personal experience with mentors
35:00 - Encouraging fire and curiosity in students
44:00 - The 3 tracks for learning in Curious Cardinals
49:00 - Audrey’s views on unschooling
56:00 - The difference between traditional and homeschooled students in Curious Cardinals
1:00:00 - How Audrey’s perception of education has changed
1:05:30 - Education in the digital age
1:13:00 - The value of college vs. learning through entrepreneurship
1:22:20 - The vision for Curious Cardinals
1:24:40 - The ideal fit for Curious Cardinals
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Connect with Audrey Wisch & Curious Cardinals:
website | curiouscardinals.com
instagram | @curiouscardinals
Linkedin | linkedin.com/company/curiouscardinals/
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | @hannahfrankman
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
Follow Along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.