
What Gets Measured
What Gets Measured is a NinjaCat podcast about marketing performance management, data, and analysis, featuring candid conversations and interviews with insightful guests and informative experts.
Hosted and produced by Jake Sanders, this bi-weekly podcast provides marketers with applicable anecdotes and topical takeaways to better manage their performance marketing because; “what gets measured, gets managed.”
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© 2022, NinjaCat
Latest episodes

Apr 8, 2025 • 42min
What's Next for Digital Marketing?
CEO of Third Door Media, Marc Sirkin, unpacks the AI-driven shift in marketing, the chaos of data, and why transformation takes more than tech. From one-to-one dreams to LLM-powered SEO, this episode cuts through the hype to reveal what really matters in the future of digital marketing. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-whats-next-for-digital-marketing © 2025, NinjaCat

Mar 25, 2025 • 50min
The Ecosystem Centered Marketing Strategy
Explore the frontiers of a new way to envision online commerce as Peter Cranstone combines his skills in patents, programming, and data to describe the promising potential, and current pitfalls, of the ecosystem centered marketing strategy of the future. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-the-ecosystem-centered-marketing-strategy © 2025, NinjaCat

Mar 11, 2025 • 37min
How To Achieve Measurable Success with AI
How can businesses achieve measurable success with AI? Ken Gavranovic unpacks strategic insights and concrete steps you can take today to unlock AI’s full potential, avoid common adoption mistakes, and see immediate, real-world impact. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-how-to-achieve-measurable-success-with-ai © 2025, NinjaCat

Feb 25, 2025 • 46min
Measuring Success in Content Marketing
Jason Patterson breaks down content marketing strategy, essential metrics, and the role of AI in driving real business impact. Learn how to avoid vanity metrics traps and create content that converts. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-measuring-success-in-content-marketing © 2025, NinjaCat

Feb 11, 2025 • 38min
Rethinking AI for Smarter Marketing
Find out how AI is transforming marketing with expert insights from Mike Kaput, of Marketing AI Institute. Learn about AI agents, deep research tools, and practical strategies to future-proof your agency. SHOWPAGE: https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-rethinking-ai-for-smarter-marketing © 2025, NinjaCat

Jan 28, 2025 • 35min
Getting Your Data AI-Ready
Learn how agencies can properly prepare for and thrive with AI in this interview with Ben Etherington, who brings insights on AI readiness, overcoming adoption challenges, and unlocking ROI through people, processes, and technology alignment. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-getting-your-data-ai-ready © 2025, NinjaCat

Jan 14, 2025 • 32min
Data Cleaning: Fix Dirty Data, Boost ROI
Join Susan Walsh, the Classification Guru, as she defines dirty data, describes how to organize and normalize it, and details the data cleaning process so you can straighten up your spreadsheets and boost ROI. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-data-cleaning-fix-dirty-data-and-boost-roi © 2025, NinjaCat

Dec 17, 2024 • 20min
Bridging The Gap Between Data and Human Understanding
Discover how top marketers bridge the gap between data and human understanding with insights on data literacy, leadership, storytelling, and a cookie-less future in this special, year-end clips episode! SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-bridging-the-gap-between-data-and-human-understanding © 2024, NinjaCat

Dec 3, 2024 • 46min
Where Data Privacy Meets Marketing Performance
As data privacy becomes a growing public concern, Heidi Saas, a data privacy attorney and technologist, offers up a no-nonsense talk about the future of ad tech, AI, and transparency in advertising. Learn how ethical data practices and privacy-first strategies can transform marketing and build trust. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-where-data-privacy-meets-marketing-performance © 2024, NinjaCat

Nov 19, 2024 • 49min
The Data-Driven Mindset: Leaning Into Numbers to Build Better Instincts
Discover how Brent Dykes, author and data storytelling expert, redefines the data-driven mindset. Learn why it’s not about control but about building sharper instincts, fostering curiosity, and using insights to drive meaningful action in marketing and beyond. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-the-data-driven-mindset-leaning-into-numbers-to-build-better-instincts © 2024, NinjaCat
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