
What Gets Measured
What Gets Measured is a NinjaCat podcast about marketing performance management, data, and analysis, featuring candid conversations and interviews with insightful guests and informative experts.
Hosted and produced by Jake Sanders, this bi-weekly podcast provides marketers with applicable anecdotes and topical takeaways to better manage their performance marketing because; “what gets measured, gets managed.”
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© 2022, NinjaCat
Latest episodes

Jul 15, 2025 • 38min
A New Mindset for AI-Augmented Marketing
Colt Briner, CMO at Trend Health Partners, shares how AI agents helped his lean marketing team outperform departments six times their size—without sacrificing voice, insight, or authenticity. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-a-new-mindset-for-ai-augmented-marketing © 2025, NinjaCat

Jul 1, 2025 • 1h
Make Better Bets with Causal AI
Discover how causal AI transforms marketing analytics by solving the correlation vs. causation dilemma. Learn why outdated Marketing Mix Modeling (MMM) can't keep up, and how causal AI provides actionable, real-time insights for CMOs and CFOs. SHOWPAGE: https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-make-better-bets-with-causal-ai © 2025, NinjaCat

Jun 17, 2025 • 25min
Better MarTech Starts with Better Experiments
Most martech stacks don’t break—they bloat. In this interview, Ana Mourão shares how to untangle messy stacks with clear thinking, smart experiments, and data strategies that actually serve people. SHOWPAGE: https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-better-martech-starts-with-better-experiments

Jun 3, 2025 • 34min
From Static to Dynamic: How Better Links Create Smarter Ads
Marketers optimize everything—except the link. In this episode, Scott Cate of 301.Pro explains how dynamic, rules-based URLs can unlock smarter, more contextual ad performance at scale. SHOWPAGE: https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-from-static-to-dynamic-how-better-links-create-smarter-ads © 2025, NinjaCat

May 20, 2025 • 21min
Why AI Will Be An Amplifier, Not A Replacement
NinjaCat VP of Marketing Jessica Graeser shares how AI is transforming agency workflows, why 2025 is a breakout year for operational efficiency, and how to go from endless AI pilots to real pipeline results. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-why-ai-will-be-an-amplifier-not-a-replacement © 2025, NinjaCat

May 6, 2025 • 48min
Rethinking Marketing Strategy with Causal AI
AI strategist James Ward breaks down why most marketing strategies fail—and how his Five Rings framework and causal AI can help agencies think, measure, and perform more effectively. SHOWPAGE: https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-rethinking-marketing-strategy-with-causal-ai © 2025, NinjaCat

Apr 22, 2025 • 42min
Leveraging Data in Marketing
Marketing strategist Ondar Tarlow shares how clean data, shared definitions, and AI help brands drive performance, build partnerships, and act fast. SHOWPAGE: https://www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-leveraging-data-in-marketing © 2025, NinjaCat

Apr 8, 2025 • 42min
What's Next for Digital Marketing?
CEO of Third Door Media, Marc Sirkin, unpacks the AI-driven shift in marketing, the chaos of data, and why transformation takes more than tech. From one-to-one dreams to LLM-powered SEO, this episode cuts through the hype to reveal what really matters in the future of digital marketing. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-whats-next-for-digital-marketing © 2025, NinjaCat

Mar 25, 2025 • 50min
The Ecosystem Centered Marketing Strategy
Explore the frontiers of a new way to envision online commerce as Peter Cranstone combines his skills in patents, programming, and data to describe the promising potential, and current pitfalls, of the ecosystem centered marketing strategy of the future. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-the-ecosystem-centered-marketing-strategy © 2025, NinjaCat

Mar 11, 2025 • 37min
How To Achieve Measurable Success with AI
How can businesses achieve measurable success with AI? Ken Gavranovic unpacks strategic insights and concrete steps you can take today to unlock AI’s full potential, avoid common adoption mistakes, and see immediate, real-world impact. SHOWPAGE: www.ninjacat.io/blog/wgm-podcast-how-to-achieve-measurable-success-with-ai © 2025, NinjaCat