Don't Kill the Messenger with Movie Strategist Kevin Goetz

Send Kevin a Text MessageIn this episode of "Don't Kill the Messenger," Kevin Goetz sits down with his longtime friend, the legendary actress Sharon Stone. Sharon shares intimate stories about her upbringing, her journey into modeling and acting, and the challenges she has faced in the entertainment industry.Humble Beginnings (2:00)Sharon discusses her upbringing in the small farming community of Meadville, Pennsylvania, where her family struggled financially.A Painful Childhood Lesson (9:12)Sharon shares a painful childhood memory of being slapped by a popular girl in school, drawing parallels to the challenges she has faced in Hollywood. Kevin describes it as trying to “slap the different out of you,” and praises Sharon for persevering while opening herself up to criticism and ridicule.The Craft of Acting (12:13)Sharon and Kevin discuss her approach to acting and her preference for working with directors like Martin Scorcese in Casino, Paul Verhoeven in Basic Instinct, and Albert Brooks in The Muse, who prioritize the craft over ego. She stresses that she has never accepted a role solely for the money, always prioritizing the quality of the work.Fair Compensation (15:56)Sharon discusses the pay disparity between male and female actors in Hollywood, advocating for fair compensation. She highlights the importance of knowing her worth in the overall value of her films.The Magic of Movies (18:22)Sharon and Kevin talk about the importance of the moviegoing experience and the need for studio executives to understand the emotional connection people have with films. She stresses the significance of creating movies with emotional intelligence that evoke powerful emotions.From Small-Town Beauty Queen to Model (20:29)Sharon recounts her journey into modeling, starting with her participation in the Miss Crawford County pageant and her encounter with Muhammad Ali.Working with Woody Allen and James Caan (25:39)Sharon shares her experience getting her start as an extra on Woody Allen's Stardust Memories and how her part was expanded after impressing the director and cinematographer. She also discusses her instant rapport with James Caan on the set of a Claude Lelouch film.In Part One of this two-part interview, Sharon Stone opens up about her journey from being a studious, small-town girl to a Hollywood icon through talent, perseverance, and commitment to her craft. Through this candid conversation with her close friend, Kevin Goetz, listeners gain an intimate look at the person behind the persona. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!Host: Kevin GoetzGuest: Sharon StoneProducer: Kari CampanoWriters: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari CampanoAudio Engineer:  Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)For more information about Sharon Stone:Wikipedia: For more information about Kevin Goetz:- Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com- Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678- How to Score in Hollywood: https://www.amazon.com/How-Score-Hollywood-Secrets-Business/dp/198218986X/- Facebook, X, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Substack: @KevinGoetz360- LinkedIn @Kevin Goetz- Screen Engine/ASI Website: www.ScreenEngineASI.com

Send Kevin a Text MessageIn this episode of "Don't Kill the Messenger," Kevin Goetz sits down with director and producer, Joseph McGinty Nichol, better known as McG. They discuss McG's journey in the entertainment industry, starting with music videos and leading to his directorial debut with Charlie's Angels, which had, at the time, the highest-grossing opening weekend for a directorial debut. Through his production company, Wonderland Sound and Vision, McG has overseen the production of films and television shows such as Terminator Salvation, This Means War, We Are Marshall, and Family Switch along with The OC, and Turner and Hooch for television. In this personal conversation, McG also touches on his struggles with agoraphobia, and the importance of audience feedback in the filmmaking process.First Time Director with a Huge Budget (1:39)McG shares his experience directing his first full-length feature film, Charlie's Angels, how Drew Barrymore helped him get the job, and how he nearly got fired multiple times due to the studio's concerns about the film's direction.Living with Agoraphobia and Panic Attacks (9:51)McG opens up about his struggles with agoraphobia, how it affected his career, including being fired from Superman Returns, and his path to live with the challenge.Music Videos and Style in Filmmaking (21:49)Kevin and McG discuss how music videos have influenced filmmakers like McG, Spike Jonze, Michael Bay, and David Fincher, helping them develop unique styles and voices in the industry.The Secret to Success: Audience Testing (24:08)McG reveals one of his secrets to success: working with Kevin Goetz and his audience testing process, which has helped him improve his films and connect with viewers.Incorporating Audience Feedback on We Are Marshall (29:48)McG recalls a specific audience feedback moment that led to a significant change in We Are Marshall, highlighting the importance of listening to, learning from, and respecting the audience.Mentors and Influences (36:37)McG discusses his primary filmmaking influences, including Alfred Hitchcock and Quentin Tarantino.Kevin Goetz and McG explore the director's journey in the entertainment industry, his personal struggles, and the importance of audience feedback in the filmmaking process. The interview highlights the unique bond between the filmmaker and the audience researcher, showcasing how their collaboration can elevate a film's success. The pair close by discussing McG’s upcoming projects, Way of the Warrior Kid and Uglies. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!Host: Kevin GoetzGuest: McGProducer: Kari CampanoWriters: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari CampanoAudio Engineer:  Gary Forbes, DG EntertainmentFor more information about McG:WikiFor more information about Kevin Goetz:- Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com- Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678- How to Score in Hollywood: https://www.amazon.com/How-Score-Hollywood-Secrets-Business/dp/198218986X/- Facebook, X, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Substack: @KevinGoetz360- LinkedIn @Kevin Goetz- Screen Engine/ASI Website: www.ScreenEngineASI.com

Send Kevin a Text MessageIn this episode of "Don't Kill the Messenger," Kevin Goetz sits down with Greg Foster, former CEO of IMAX Entertainment and current owner of the entertainment and media consulting firm, Foster + Crew. Foster grew up immersed in the world of Hollywood, with a father who was a successful film producer. This early exposure to the industry laid the foundation for Foster's career. From his childhood memories of rubbing elbows with Hollywood royalty, to his pivotal role in the evolution of IMAX, to his more recent experiences as a sought-after consultant, Foster shares insider stories along with a unique perspective on the business of moviemaking and the cinematic experience.Growing up in Hollywood and a memorable encounter with Mel Brooks (3:09)Foster discusses his upbringing in Beverly Hills and the influence of his father, David Foster, a successful film producer, on his career path. He recounts a memorable experience early in his career at MGM/UA, where he delivered test screening results to Mel Brooks for the movie Spaceballs.Steve McQueen, Ali MacGraw, and Greg’s Father (16:12)Foster shares a story about his father's involvement in the production of The Getaway, starring Steve McQueen and Ali MacGraw, and the confrontation that ensued when MacGraw's then-husband, Robert Evans, discovered the affair between the two stars.Apollo 13 and the evolution of IMAX (22:22)The pair discuss the transformation of IMAX to a premier movie experience. IMAX's 2002 re-release partnership with Apollo 13, originally produced in 1995 by Academy Award winner Brian Grazer and directed by Oscar winner Ron Howard, marked a turning point for the company. It was the first Hollywood movie to be digitally remastered using IMAX DMR technology, showcasing IMAX's ability to enhance the emotional experience of a film.Christopher Nolan and Batman Begins (29:15)Kevin and Greg talk about the critical role of Warner Bros. and Christopher Nolan in the growth of IMAX, particularly with the release of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.Consulting with Foster + Crew (38:47)Greg shares insights into his consulting firm, Foster + Crew, and the various services he provides to his clients in the entertainment industry.The future of cinema in the streaming era (44:11)Kevin and Greg touch on the impact of streaming on the theatrical experience and the future of cinema, post COVID, Barbenheimer and the 2023 Hollywood strikes.From his early days at MGM/UA to his pivotal role in transforming IMAX into a global cinematic powerhouse, Foster's stories offer a fascinating glimpse into the evolving landscape of the film industry. Foster remains optimistic about the future of moviegoing, particularly with the impressive slate of films set for release in 2025. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!Host: Kevin GoetzGuest: Greg FosterProducer: KFor more information about Kevin Goetz:- Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com- Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678- How to Score in Hollywood: https://www.amazon.com/How-Score-Hollywood-Secrets-Business/dp/198218986X/- Facebook, X, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Substack: @KevinGoetz360- LinkedIn @Kevin Goetz- Screen Engine/ASI Website: www.ScreenEngineASI.com

Send Kevin a Text MessageIn this episode of "Don't Kill the Messenger," entertainment research expert Kevin Goetz engages in an insightful conversation with Bill Block, a renowned agent, executive producer, and former studio head. As a producer, Block played a pivotal role in the groundbreaking success of The Blair Witch Project. Block’s other films include the Oscar-nominated The Holdovers, Bad Moms, the critically acclaimed Fury, and the upcoming film Here starring Tom Hanks and Robin Wright. The pair delve into Block's remarkable career, the critical role of audience research in filmmaking, and the potential impact of artificial intelligence on the entertainment industry.Bill Block's background and early career (1:47)Bill shares his journey from starting as a secretary at the Irv Schechter agency to becoming a successful agent then moving on to form Artisan Entertainment.The acquisition of Live Entertainment and the success of The Blair Witch Project (7:12)Block shares the story behind the acquisition and distribution of The Blair Witch Project, a groundbreaking film that defied traditional marketing strategies and became a massive success.Using audience research to make decisions on the Halloween franchise reboot (15:37)Kevin and Bill discuss how audience research played a crucial role in the decision-making process for the Halloween franchise reboot.Navigating the complexities of film financing (24:37)Kevin and Bill discuss the financial deals behind Oliver Stone’s W., Bad Moms, and Jason Statham action films.Bill's insights on packaging and financing independent films (35:39)Block discusses the importance of attaching talent, securing presales, and finding the right equity partners to fill the financing gap. Block touches on films he has been involved with like Bad Moms, Fury, and Guy Ritchie’s The Gentleman.The potential impact of AI on the entertainment industry (41:19)Bill and Kevin explore the rapidly advancing world of artificial intelligence and its potential to disrupt the entertainment industry.Bill Block's extensive experience, combining financial expertise with respect for the audience, makes him an invaluable voice in the entertainment industry. His insights into the evolving landscape of film financing, distribution, and the integration of artificial intelligence demonstrate his ability to navigate the complexities of the business. His stories and observations, shared in this engaging conversation with Kevin, offer a fascinating glimpse into the future of filmmaking. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. Next Guest:  Greg Foster, Former CEO of IMAX EntertainmentHost: Kevin GoetzGuest: Bill BlockProducer: Kari CampanoWriters: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari CampanoFor more information about Bill Block:IMDB: https://www.imdb.For more information about Kevin Goetz:- Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com- Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678- How to Score in Hollywood: https://www.amazon.com/How-Score-Hollywood-Secrets-Business/dp/198218986X/- Facebook, X, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Substack: @KevinGoetz360- LinkedIn @Kevin Goetz- Screen Engine/ASI Website: www.ScreenEngineASI.com

Send Kevin a Text Message(Recorded December 2023)In this episode of "Don't Kill the Messenger," host Kevin Goetz sits down with veteran producer Carol Baum, whose impressive career includes working with Hollywood icons such as Dolly Parton, Barbara Streisand, Robert De Niro, Zendaya, and Steve Martin. Carol shares stories and insights from her decades in the film industry, discussing her work on memorable films like "Father of the Bride," "The Good Girl," "Dead Ringers," and "Flyaway Home." She also shares candid experiences as a studio executive at Fox and Lorimar, where she developed classic films like "Officer and a Gentleman" and "The Dead Zone." With the recent release of her book, "Creative Producing," Carol provides a wealth of knowledge for aspiring filmmakers and industry professionals.Carol’s Early Career and Education (07:42)Carol discusses her early career, how a girl from South Orange, New Jersey with no Hollywood connections landed a job in publishing at Bantam Books, where she discovered "The Autobiography of Malcolm X" and how she went on to produce classic movies.Studio Executive Roles (24:28)As a studio executive, Carol worked with Jon Peters' company, where she learned the importance of a positive work environment. She then moved on to Fox, working under Joe Wizan, and experienced a culture shift when Larry Gordon and Scott Rudin joined the studio. At Lorimar, Carol developed classic films such as "An Officer and a Gentleman" and "The Dead Zone."Father of the Bride, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and Sandollar Productions (30:17)Carol shares stories of working with Sandy Gallin and Dolly Parton at Sandollar Productions where she produced successful films like "Father of the Bride" and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" while collaborating with Howard Rosenman.Creative Producing (38:10)Carol discusses her book, Creative Producing, where she emphasizes the importance of the development process and working closely with writers to refine scripts and make them better.Working with Stars Like Barbara Streisand, Steve Martin, and a Young Zendaya (42:53)Carol shares her love for actors and their role in getting projects made. She considers Anthony Hopkins one of the greatest living actors and recounts her experiences working with Barbara Streisand, Steve Martin, and a young Zendaya.Carol Baum's love for movies shines through and shows why she is so valuable to the film industry. Her willingness to share her experiences and lessons in this episode as well as in her book, Creative Producing, are sure to inspire and guide countless filmmakers If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!Host: Kevin GoetzGuest: Carol BaumProducer: Kari CampanoWriters: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari CampanoFor more information about Carol Baum:IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0062071/Wikipedia: For more information about Kevin Goetz:- Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com- Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678- How to Score in Hollywood: https://www.amazon.com/How-Score-Hollywood-Secrets-Business/dp/198218986X/- Facebook, X, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Substack: @KevinGoetz360- LinkedIn @Kevin Goetz- Screen Engine/ASI Website: www.ScreenEngineASI.com

Melva Benoit, founder of the Marian Dupree Group, brings her wealth of experience from top media companies like Disney and NBC Universal. In their engaging conversation, she delves into her passion for television and the critical role of research in shaping successful shows, including iconic titles like Seinfeld and Friends. Benoit discusses the complexities of audience dynamics and the myths around TV scheduling, while emphasizing the necessity of understanding viewer behavior to enhance storytelling and marketing strategies in today’s evolving media landscape.

Send Kevin a Text MessageHost and entertainment research expert Kevin Goetz sits down with the multi-talented Colleen Camp. With a career spanning 6 decades in acting and over 2 decades in producing, Colleen is a true force in the entertainment industry. She has graced the screen in over 150 roles, including memorable performances in films like Clue, Die Hard with a Vengeance, Wayne's World, Election, and American Hustle. As a producer, Colleen has helped bring over 25 titles to life, showcasing her passion and dedication to the craft of filmmaking.Current Projects and Cinema Landscape (1:40)Colleen discusses her recent producing projects, including the films At the Gates and Day of the Fight, and the challenges of distribution in the current landscape.The Art of Character Development (16:21)Kevin and Colleen explore the significance of rhythm and accents in defining characters, drawing upon examples from Colleen's diverse acting roles. They discuss how these elements contribute to the authenticity and depth of a performance, allowing actors to fully embody their characters and captivate audiences.Lessons from Legendary Directors (11:28)Colleen shares lessons learned from collaborating with renowned directors such as Peter Bogdanovich, Francis Ford Coppola, Jonathan Lynn, and David O. Russell. She reflects on the insights gained from working with these industry giants, emphasizing the importance of adaptability, trust, and creative synergy between actors and directors.Navigating Nudity in Film (32:30)The conversation touches on Colleen's experience portraying a Playboy bunny in the iconic film Apocalypse Now. She candidly discusses her thoughts on nudity in film, the challenges faced by actors in such roles, and the evolution of attitudes towards on-screen intimacy over the years.Standout Films of the Awards Season (54:13)Kevin and Colleen engage in a lively discussion about the standout films from the current awards season, with a particular focus on The Holdovers and Oppenheimer. Supporting Emerging Talent (59:41)Colleen emphasizes the importance of supporting emerging filmmakers and the need for diverse, quality films to be distributed and celebrated. She stresses the significance of nurturing new voices in the industry and the role that established professionals can play in mentoring and advocating for up-and-coming talent.Colleen Camp's passion for the entertainment industry shines through in this engaging conversation. Her ability to transform as an actress and her commitment to producing meaningful films make her a true treasure in the world of cinema. As an advocate for emerging talent and a believer in the power of the theatrical experience, Colleen continues to make a significant impact on the industry. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. Host: Kevin GoetzGuest: Colleen CampProducer: Kari CampanoWriters: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari CampanoFor more information about Colleen Camp:Rotten Tomatoes: For more information about Kevin Goetz:- Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com- Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678- How to Score in Hollywood: https://www.amazon.com/How-Score-Hollywood-Secrets-Business/dp/198218986X/- Facebook, X, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Substack: @KevinGoetz360- LinkedIn @Kevin Goetz- Screen Engine/ASI Website: www.ScreenEngineASI.com

Send Kevin a Text MessageHost and entertainment research expert Kevin Goetz sits down with talented screenwriter and director Nick Stoller. With a remarkable portfolio that includes hit comedy films like Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Get Him to the Greek, Neighbors, Bros, and the upcoming You’re Cordially Invited, Stoller provides a fascinating behind-the-scenes look at his creative process, his journey in the entertainment industry, and the invaluable role of audience research in shaping his critically acclaimed projects.Nick Stoller's background and early influences (5:57)Nick discusses his background and early influences, including growing up in Miami, attending boarding school in New Hampshire, and finding his passion for comedy writing at Harvard.Pitching ideas to Judd Apatow and landing a job on "Undeclared" (11:33)The pivotal moment when Judd Apatow hired Stoller for the show "Undeclared" based on his ability to pitch relatable college experiences that resonated with Apatow's comedic sensibilities.The screening process for "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" and lessons learned (15:19)Stoller delves into the screening process for "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" and the invaluable lessons he learned about audience preferences, particularly their aversion to overtly sad characters and their love for characters in denial.Collaborating with actors like Jason Segel and Rose Byrne (24:03)Stoller talks about working with talented actors like Jason Segel and Rose Byrne, and the unique comedic talents each brings to a project.Advice on cutting scenes and prioritizing the story over individual jokes (29:30)Kevin and Nick offer insightful advice on cutting scenes and prioritizing the overall story arc over individual jokes, even highly comedic ones, if they undermine character development or audience engagement.The reshoots for "Get Him to the Greek" and the importance of point of view (33:38)Nick talks about his love of reshoots, and how the audience feedback led him to change the beginning of Get Him to the Greek.Preparing for the first day of shooting with Will Ferrell and Reese Witherspoon (41:24)Stoller discusses his preparation process before the first day of shooting with stars like Will Ferrell and Reese Witherspoon, emphasizing the importance of rehearsals and collaborative exploration.Throughout the engaging conversation, Nick Stoller's passion for storytelling, his respect for the audience, and his collaborative approach shine through. From his beginnings as a writer to his current success as a director, Stoller's journey is a testament to the power of perseverance, creativity, and a deep understanding of human emotions. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!Host: Kevin GoetzGuest: Nick StollerProducer: Kari CampanoWriters: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari CampanoFor more information about Nick Stoller:TwittFor more information about Kevin Goetz:- Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com- Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678- How to Score in Hollywood: https://www.amazon.com/How-Score-Hollywood-Secrets-Business/dp/198218986X/- Facebook, X, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Substack: @KevinGoetz360- LinkedIn @Kevin Goetz- Screen Engine/ASI Website: www.ScreenEngineASI.com

Send Kevin a Text MessageKevin Goetz sits down with acclaimed filmmaker Eli Roth. Eli burst onto the scene in 2002 with his indie horror hit Cabin Fever and cemented his reputation with the extremely profitable Hostel films. Known for his intense horror style and flair for marketing, Eli has built a hugely successful directing career. His latest film, the holiday slasher Thanksgiving, was released last year by Sony Pictures and he is currently working on a science fiction action comedy film, Borderlands, scheduled to be released this summer. Kevin and Eli have worked closely together using test screenings to hone Eli's movies. Their rapport is on full display as they delve deep into Eli's creative process, his career ups and downs, and the vital role testing feedback plays in the final films you see in theaters. Kevin and Eli Discuss Eli's Upbringing and Early Interest in Filmmaking (3:20)Eli became interested in film at a young age after seeing movies like Pinocchio, Star Wars, and Alien. He started making short films as a kid with help from a mentor. By age 11 he was making animated shorts, stop-motion films, and horror movies with his brothers and friends.Cabin Fever and Eli's Initial Resistance to Testing (27:09)Cabin Fever initially tested terribly but went on to be very profitable. Eli learned to analyze test data for what works rather than just looking at scores.Eli's Experience Working His Way Up in the Film Industry (31:42)Eli talks about his odd jobs in the film industry while writing scripts, including as an extra, a set production assistant, and Howard Stern's assistant on Private Parts.Working with Quentin Tarantino and Making the Hostel Films (37:12)Quentin Tarantino mentored Eli on Hostel, helping him add more realism and unexpected details. Eli discusses testing multiple endings for Hostel.Thanksgiving Test Screenings and Editing (42:15)Eli details his experience testing Thanksgiving and learning from audience feedback to hone the right tone, pacing, and violence level. He trimmed 15 minutes after the first test screening based on feedback. Eli says he has come to value test screening input thanks to insights from Kevin.Eli on the Power of Test Screenings (54:19)Eli thanks Kevin for helping filmmakers understand how to read test screening data and what audiences want. He advises filmmakers to listen to test feedback even if they don't agree.This fascinating conversation gives rare insight into Eli Roth's unique directorial vision and his journey to becoming one of Hollywood's most successful horror filmmakers. Eli's passion for the genre and gift for understanding audiences have been instrumental in crafting crowd-pleasing terror. His embrace of the test screening process, utilizing Kevin's expert analysis, demonstrates Eli's dedication to giving viewers the best experience possible.Host: Kevin GoetzGuest: Eli RothProducer: Kari CampanoWriters: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, Kari Campano, and Nick NunezFor more information about Eli Roth:Instagram: For more information about Kevin Goetz:- Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com- Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678- How to Score in Hollywood: https://www.amazon.com/How-Score-Hollywood-Secrets-Business/dp/198218986X/- Facebook, X, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Substack: @KevinGoetz360- LinkedIn @Kevin Goetz- Screen Engine/ASI Website: www.ScreenEngineASI.com

Send Kevin a Text MessageJoin Kevin Goetz as he welcomes the host of Turner Classic Movies, Ben Mankiewicz. As a member of the illustrious Mankiewicz family, Ben provides a unique insider perspective, from delightful stories about his early life surrounded by Hollywood royalty to the privileges and expectations that come with having a famous name. He also shares colorful anecdotes about his father, who spurned the movie business in favor of making an impact through politics and public service. Throughout the episode, Ben brings his deep passion for film to life, offering thoughtful analysis and critiques on everything from beloved classics like Casablanca to defining what makes a movie truly great. His joy and encyclopedic knowledge when discussing cinema is infectious.Ben's Family Legacy and Getting into Columbia (2:42)Ben talks about his family's long history at Columbia and getting rejected initially despite his famous relatives.Ben’s Father Spurning Hollywood for Public Service (8:08)Ben recounts his father Frank Mankiewicz's remarkable transition from Hollywood entertainment lawyer to a member of the Peace Corps in Peru. He further elaborates on his father's notable career milestones, which encompassed serving as Robert F. Kennedy's press secretary and spearheading George McGovern's campaign.Following His Own Path (9:15)Ben compares his interests to his father's drive to make a difference rather than join the movie business.Behind the Scenes of Turner Classic Movies (12:08)Ben describes auditioning for TCM and having long discussions about movies, playing to his strengths. Ben says seeing The Barefoot Contessa on TCM right after his audition felt like a good omen he'd get the job because it was a Mankiewicz movie.Ben's Takes on Classic Films (20:53)Ben argues audiences over time, not just critics, determine what becomes a classic film based on emotional impact. Ben names Paths of Glory and Casablanca as his favorites for their emotional resonance.On the Waterfront and the Problem with Kazan (33:47)Ben expresses admiration for On the Waterfront, acknowledging its brilliance and emotional depth, particularly praising Eva Marie Saint's performance. However, he expresses disdain for Elia Kazan's decision to name names during the McCarthy era. Mank and the Family Name (41:36)Ben talks about being a Mankiewicz, and describes being incredibly moved by the 2020 biographical drama film Mank directed by David Fincher capturing Ben's grandfather Herman's spirit. Whether you're a longtime TCM fan or simply love hearing little-known details about Hollywood history straight from the source, this podcast is a must-listen. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!Host: Kevin GoetzGuest: Ben MankiewiczProducer: Kari CampanoWriters: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari CampanoFor more information about Kevin Goetz:- Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com- Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678- How to Score in Hollywood: https://www.amazon.com/How-Score-Hollywood-Secrets-Business/dp/198218986X/- Facebook, X, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Substack: @KevinGoetz360- LinkedIn @Kevin Goetz- Screen Engine/ASI Website: www.ScreenEngineASI.com