

Less Noise, More Signal
Pascal
Welcome to Less Noise, More Signal. In a world saturated with news, hype, and endless chatter, finding clarity can seem like searching for a needle in a haystack. I have taken on this challenge and made it my mission to cut through the noise by amplifying the signal.Who am I? I am Pascal Hügli. With a background in political philosophy, a career in investment management, and a deep expertise in Bitcoin and digital assets, I am here to explore the ideas and connections that others do not bother to see. It’s not just about finding the right answers; it’s about asking the right questions.In each episode, I interview the most insightful thinkers in their respective fields. Every guest contributes a vital piece to the puzzle, helping us form a clearer picture of the forces shaping our world of macro, finance, and money.Listen in as my guests and I tilt the balance from noise to signal, one podcast episode at a time. Let’s cut through the clutter and focus on what truly matters. Ready to elevate your understanding? Let’s dive in.
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May 12, 2025 • 1h 4min
Fund Researcher: No matter what valuation approach you choose, ether remains overvalued
Kevin Mills, Head of Research at Triton Liquid and FJ Labs, discusses Ethereum’s valuation challenges with Pascal Hugli. They critique Ethereum's dual role as a gas token and a store of value, arguing it leads to market disconnects. Topics include cash flow analysis, institutional perspectives, and Layer 2 solutions. Mills emphasizes Ethereum’s potential as an internet-native commodity and highlights the necessity for investors to navigate the evolving crypto landscape with clarity. Their insights reveal a nuanced understanding of market dynamics and the future of digital assets.

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May 8, 2025 • 1h 35min
Financial plumbing expert Mel Mattison: Why Trump‘s economic agenda mirros MMT
Mel Mattison, a fintech executive with over 25 years of experience, joins the discussion to unravel Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) and its parallels to Trump’s economic strategies. They explore the pressing issues surrounding Social Security and Medicare, emphasizing the impending financial shortfall. The conversation touches on the risks of economic stagnation, the role of the U.S. dollar in global trade, and the potential for a transformative monetary system amidst current challenges. Mattison also highlights the intersection of philosophy and finance in shaping economic decisions.

May 5, 2025 • 54min
Global Strategist Michael Every: Our Liberal World Order is breaking down. Here’s what’s to come
In a thought-provoking conversation, global strategist Michael Every shares his insights on the unraveling liberal world order and its repercussions for finance and geopolitics. He critiques traditional macroeconomic models, advocating for a more sophisticated understanding of complexities like technology, trade, and inequality. Every highlights the disruptive potential of emerging technologies and demographic challenges, while questioning conventional wisdom about investments, the prospect of war, and the future of global trade amidst a volatile landscape.

May 1, 2025 • 48min
Tether CEO Paolo Ardoino: Banks will blow up in the next years
In this conversation, Paolo Ardoino, the CEO of Tether and Pascal Hügli, discuss the ethos of Bitcoin and Tether's journey in the cryptocurrency space. Paolo emphasizes the importance of stablecoins in emerging markets, their role as better banks compared to traditional institutions, and the potential of technology to enhance human capabilities. The discussion also touches on the challenges faced by stablecoins and their impact on global economies, particularly in regions with unstable currencies.Chapters:00:00 Intro02:01 Tether as Economic Force for good12:03 Tether's Role in Emerging Markets23:58 The Future of Technology and Human Enhancement36:00 Stablecoins vs Traditional Banking44:04 The Global Impact of StablecoinsFollow Paolo Ardoino:https://x.com/paoloardoinoFollow me: Twitter - https://x.com/pahuegNostr - npub1qhx7lnggpv64f0wt5xyjj7h90qh5ewu35pspr66sj8alc4gvcfjqqn04l8Check out our sponsor Newhedge: https://newhedge.io/Newhedge is an analytics and intelligence platform for all the Bitcoin data you need! Get 50% off your subscription by using the code "Signal"! 🔥Thank you for subscribing to our channel! We’re excited to have you with us!#Bitcoin, #Tether, #stablecoins, #financialtechnology, #cryptocurrency, #digitaldollar, #remittances, #banking, #innovation, #economicfreedom

Apr 28, 2025 • 56min
Prince Filip of Serbia: It is only a matter of time until Djokovic is orange-pilled
In this conversation, Pascal Hugli and Prince Filip of Serbia discuss the historical context and current sentiment towards monarchy in Serbia, the synergies between monarchy and Bitcoin, and the differences between nationalism and patriotism. Prince Filip elaborates on his royal heritage, the potential for monarchies to return in the future, and how Bitcoin influences governance and individual property rights. In this conversation, they explore the evolving landscape of Bitcoin adoption across various nation-states, the implications of political leadership on cryptocurrency, and the cultural factors influencing understanding and acceptance of Bitcoin. They discuss the importance of individual property rights, the risks associated with government intervention, and the potential for Bitcoin to stabilize economies affected by fiat currency. The conversation also highlights grassroots movements and the role of influential figures in promoting Bitcoin. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:58 Prince Filip's Heritage and the Serbian Monarchy 17:54 Nationalism vs. Patriotism in Serbia 24:57 Monarchy, Governance Models, and Bitcoin Synergies 27:51 Nation States and Bitcoin: A New Era 28:14 El Salvador's Vision and Leadership 29:02 Liechtenstein's Financial Landscape and Bitcoin 30:26 The Ripple Effect of U.S. Bitcoin Policies 31:53 The Political Landscape and Bitcoin's Image 32:48 Global Adoption Trends and Bitcoin's Role 34:31 The Need for Hard Money and Bitcoin's Promise 35:01 Risks of Government Intervention in Bitcoin 37:05 The Importance of Individual Property Rights 39:33 Bitcoin's Stabilizing Potential in a Fiat World 40:15 Media Influence on Bitcoin Adoption 42:04 Grassroots Movements and Bitcoin Adoption 44:03 Mining as a Path to Bitcoin Adoption 46:06 Future Predictions for Bitcoin Adoption 48:53 Cultural Perspectives on Bitcoin Understanding 52:22 The Role of Influencers in Bitcoin Adoption Follow Prince Filip: https://x.com/PrincFilip1 Follow me: Twitter - https://x.com/pahueg Nostr - npub1qhx7lnggpv64f0wt5xyjj7h90qh5ewu35pspr66sj8alc4gvcfjqqn04l8 Check out our sponsor Newhedge: https://newhedge.io/ Newhedge is an analytics and intelligence platform for all the Bitcoin data you need! Get 50% off your subscription by using the code "Signal"! 🔥 Also, you can use LNMS code to get 15% discount with Ben‘s intothecryptoverse (https://intothecryptoverse.com)! Thank you for subscribing to our channel! We’re excited to have you with us! #monarchy, #Bitcoin, #governance, #Serbia, #nationalism, #heritage, #propertyrights, #lowtimepreference, #PrinceFilip, #royalfamily, #Bitcoin, #nationstates, #ElSalvador, #Liechtenstein, #adoption, #cryptocurrency, #future, #hardmoney, #politicallandscape, #grassrootsmovements

Apr 24, 2025 • 1h 2min
Investment activist Matt Cole: Bitcoin and AI will shape tomorrow’s S&P 500 winners
In this conversation, Matt Cole and Pascal Hügli discuss the significant disruption AI poses to corporate America and the necessity for companies to adapt by investing in innovative technologies like Bitcoin. The discussion also covers the concept of the hurdle rate in corporate finance and how it influences investment decisions, as well as the potential for 'zombie companies' to thrive by adopting Bitcoin as a core asset. Matt and Pascal explore the challenges faced by C-suite executives in understanding and integrating Bitcoin into their companies, the implications for companies like GameStop, and the necessity for high-risk investments in a capital-scarce environment.Chapters00:00 Intro02:30 The Disruption of AI and Corporate America03:10 Activism in Index Investing and Shareholder Value06:02 The Rise of Bitcoin in Corporate Portfolios09:09 Understanding Hurdle Rates and Investment Decisions11:54 The Impact of Negative Real Interest Rates15:11 Long-Term Thinking in Corporate Strategy17:53 Zombie Companies and the Bitcoin Standard30:56 The Shift Towards Bitcoin Adoption33:14 C-Suite Perspectives on Bitcoin35:32 The Impact of AI and Bitcoin on Corporate Strategy40:18 GameStop's Bitcoin Strategy43:29 Navigating the Era of Scarce Capital52:44 How to Choose a Proper Benchmark59:14 Sentiment at Bitcoin Investor WeekFollow Matt Cole:https://x.com/ColeMacroFollow me: Twitter - https://x.com/pahuegNostr - npub1qhx7lnggpv64f0wt5xyjj7h90qh5ewu35pspr66sj8alc4gvcfjqqn04l8Check out our sponsor Newhedge:https://newhedge.io/Newhedge is an analytics and intelligence platform for all the Bitcoin data you need! Get 50% off your subscription by using the code "Signal"! 🔥Thank you for subscribing to our channel! We’re excited to have you with us!#Bitcoin #CorporateAdoption #HurdleRate #ESG #InvestmentStrategies #Strive #FinancialMarkets #LongTermThinking #ZombieCompanies #EconomicTrends #CSuite #AI #GameStop #CorporateStrategy #InvestmentRisks #CapitalScarcity #EasyMoney #BitcoinInvestorWeek

Apr 21, 2025 • 1h 31min
Travis Kling: Crypto puts human nature and morality on display like nothing else
In this conversation, Pascal Hugli and Travis Kling discusses the concept of financial nihilism, which highlights the growing wealth inequality and the unattainability of the American dream for younger generations. He explores how this nihilism leads to radical risk-taking behaviors, such as the rise of sports gambling and meme coins. Kling also delves into the significance of Bitcoin as a tool for human cooperation and coordination, while reflecting on his personal faith journey and the importance of absolute truths in both faith and finance. In this conversation, the speakers explore the intersections of Bitcoin, faith, and human nature. They discuss the role of Bitcoin in facilitating human cooperation, the search for absolute truth in faith, and the incomprehensibility of God. The dialogue also delves into the relationship between faith and works, the evaluation of crypto's impact, and the need for reformation in institutions. The speakers express hope for both the crypto industry and faith, while acknowledging the challenges posed by human nature and the limitations of regulation. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 02:27 The Concept of Financial Nihilism 10:36 Understanding Financial Nihilism and Its Implications 19:05 Faith, Personal Journey, and Financial Perspectives 24:33 Exploring Absolute Truths in Faith and Finance 46:35 The Role of Bitcoin in Human Cooperation 49:32 The Search for Absolute Truth in Faith 52:14 Incomprehensibility of God and Human Understanding 54:51 Faith, Works, and the Nature of Goodness 56:56 Evaluating the Fruits of Crypto 01:01:39 The Hope for Crypto and Faith 01:06:55 Rotten Institutions and the Need for Reformation 01:13:03 The Intersection of Crypto and Morality 01:19:00 Regulation and the Future of Crypto 01:26:02 Finding Purpose Beyond Money Follow Travis Kling: https://x.com/travis_kling Follow me: Twitter - https://x.com/pahueg Nostr - npub1qhx7lnggpv64f0wt5xyjj7h90qh5ewu35pspr66sj8alc4gvcfjqqn04l8 Check out our sponsor Newhedge: https://newhedge.io/ Newhedge is an analytics and intelligence platform for all the Bitcoin data you need! Get 50% off your subscription by using the code "Signal"! 🔥 Thank you for subscribing to our channel! We’re excited to have you with us! #financialnihilism, #Bitcoin, #crypto, #wealthinequality, #Americandream, #humancooperation, #faithjourney, #absolutetruth, #monetarysystems, #risk-taking, #Bitcoin, #faith, #absolutetruth, #humancooperation, #crypto, #morality, #regulation, #rotteninstitutions, #hope, #purpose

Apr 17, 2025 • 54min
Benjamin Cowen: This is why Bitcoin needs to hit new highs by August
In this conversation, Pascal Hugli and Benjamin Cowen discusses the current state of Bitcoin and its market dynamics, focusing on the implications of the recent death cross, investor sentiment, and strategies for navigating the cryptocurrency landscape. He emphasizes the importance of understanding market trends, the potential impact of a recession, and the significance of risk metrics in making informed investment decisions. Cowan also shares insights on dollar-cost averaging and the importance of maintaining a balanced portfolio in uncertain times. In this conversation, the speakers delve into various investment strategies for Bitcoin and Ethereum, discussing risk management, market dynamics, and the importance of having a solid plan. They explore the implications of quantitative tightening on Bitcoin dominance and the role of fundamentals in the crypto market, emphasizing the need for investors to navigate the volatile landscape with a clear strategy. Chapters: 00:00 Intro 01:27 Bitcoin Market Dynamics and Investor Sentiment 02:54 Understanding the Death Cross in Bitcoin 06:00 Navigating Market Trends and Investment Strategies 08:57 Recession Impacts on Bitcoin and Market Predictions 11:46 De-risking Strategies and Market Timing 15:02 Risk Metrics and Dollar-Cost Averaging 27:31 Navigating Bitcoin Investment Strategies 34:29 Understanding Ethereum's Market Dynamics 41:10 The Role of Fundamentals in Crypto 50:38 Bitcoin Dominance and Market Trends Follow Benjamin Cowen: https://x.com/intocryptoverse Follow me: Twitter - https://x.com/pahueg Nostr - npub1qhx7lnggpv64f0wt5xyjj7h90qh5ewu35pspr66sj8alc4gvcfjqqn04l8 Check out our sponsor Newhedge: https://newhedge.io/ Newhedge is an analytics and intelligence platform for all the Bitcoin data you need! Get 50% off your subscription by using the code "Signal"! 🔥 Also, you can use LNMS code to get 15% discount with Ben‘s intothecryptoverse! Thank you for subscribing to our channel! We’re excited to have you with us! #Bitcoin, #cryptocurrency, #markettrends, #investmentstrategies, #deathcross, #recession, #derisking, #dollarcostaveraging, #altcoins, #monetarypolicy, #Ethereum, #investmentstrategies, #marketdynamics, #cryptofundamentals, #Bitcoindominance, #altcoins, #quantitativetightening, #riskmanagement, #tradingstrategies

Apr 14, 2025 • 40min
Macro investor: US bond markets are a signaling a crisis in confidence
In this conversation, Pascal Huegli and Spencer Hakimian discusses the current state of the U.S. economy, focusing on the rising bond yields and falling dollar, which signal a crisis of confidence. He emphasizes the importance of the bond market for economic stability and the need for global coordination in addressing these issues. The conversation also touches on the potential for a failed bond auction and the implications for U.S. monetary policy. Finally, Huegli shares insights on investment strategies in uncertain times, advocating for a balanced approach to risk.Chapters:00:48 Intro 02:15 Crisis of Confidence in the U.S. Economy06:00 Trust Issues and Global Coordination12:01 The Bond Market's Role in Economic Stability17:48 The Future of U.S. Monetary Policy30:14 Investment Strategies in Uncertain TimesFollow Spencer Hakimian:https://x.com/SpencerHakimian Follow me: Twitter - https://x.com/pahuegNostr - npub1qhx7lnggpv64f0wt5xyjj7h90qh5ewu35pspr66sj8alc4gvcfjqqn04l8Check out our sponsor Newhedge:https://newhedge.io/Newhedge is an analytics and intelligence platform for all the Bitcoin data you need! Get 50% off your subscription by using the code "Signal"! 🔥Thank you for subscribing to our channel! We’re excited to have you with us!#USeconomy, #bondmarket, #inflation, #monetarypolicy, #globalcoordination, #trustcrisis, #investmentstrategies, #recession, #tariffs, #financialmarkets

Apr 10, 2025 • 1h 2min
Turkish Citizen: Movie tickets are now 200 Lira, once just 5
This conversation with Pascal Hugli and Melih delves into the current economic and political turmoil in Turkey, highlighting the severe inflation, the withdrawal of foreign investments, and the implications of upcoming elections. The discussion also touches on the social impact of these crises, including the decline in living standards and the mental health challenges faced by citizens. The conversation paints a grim picture of a country struggling with its identity and future amidst a backdrop of political maneuvering and economic instability. This conversation delves into the complex socio-political landscape of Turkey, focusing on immigration policies, the challenges faced by citizens in traveling abroad, the rise of protests against government actions, and the role of cryptocurrency as a financial alternative amidst economic instability. The discussion highlights the struggles for civil rights, the impact of government regulations on crypto, and the glimmers of hope found in community and sports.Chapters:00:38 Intro 02:07 Economic Crisis in Turkey04:51 Political Landscape and Upcoming Elections09:46 Erdogan's Power and Constitutional Changes15:05 Impact of Foreign Investment Withdrawal20:10 Inflation and Cost of Living Crisis25:03 Agricultural Decline and Food Security30:00 Social Impact and Mental Health Crisis32:43 The Impact of Immigration Policies36:07 Challenges of Traveling Abroad38:51 Protests and Civil Rights in Turkey41:46 Hope Amidst Political Turmoil44:44 The Role of Cryptocurrency in Turkey56:17 Government Regulation and Future of Crypto01:00:09 Finding Hope in Sports and CommunityFollow me: Twitter - https://x.com/pahuegNostr - npub1qhx7lnggpv64f0wt5xyjj7h90qh5ewu35pspr66sj8alc4gvcfjqqn04l8Check out our sponsor Newhedge:https://newhedge.io/Newhedge is an analytics and intelligence platform for all the Bitcoin data you need! Get 50% off your subscription by using the code "Signal"! 🔥Thank you for subscribing to our channel! We’re excited to have you with us!#Turkey #EconomicCrisis #Inflation #Erdogan #Elections #ForeignInvestment #CostOfLiving #Agriculture #SocialIssues #MentalHealth #Immigration #Protests #Cryptocurrency #CivilRights #TravelChallenges #PoliticalTurmoil #Hope #GovernmentRegulation #Stablecoins


