
Less Noise, More Signal
Welcome to Less Noise, More Signal. In a world saturated with news, hype, and endless chatter, finding clarity can seem like searching for a needle in a haystack. I have taken on this challenge and made it my mission to cut through the noise by amplifying the signal.Who am I? I am Pascal Hügli. With a background in political philosophy, a career in investment management, and a deep expertise in Bitcoin and digital assets, I am here to explore the ideas and connections that others do not bother to see. It’s not just about finding the right answers; it’s about asking the right questions.In each episode, I interview the most insightful thinkers in their respective fields. Every guest contributes a vital piece to the puzzle, helping us form a clearer picture of the forces shaping our world of macro, finance, and money.Listen in as my guests and I tilt the balance from noise to signal, one podcast episode at a time. Let’s cut through the clutter and focus on what truly matters. Ready to elevate your understanding? Let’s dive in.
Latest episodes

Jun 26, 2025 • 1h 7min
Lyn Alden: At THIS Point, Bitcoin Will Threaten Government Deficit Spending
In this conversation, Lyn Alden and Pascal Hügli delve into the intricate relationship between central banking, war making, fiat currency, and Bitcoin. They explore how central banks have historically financed sovereign activities, the implications of monetary policy on economic cycles, and the potential future of Bitcoin as a rival to traditional fiat systems. The discussion also touches on the challenges of Bitcoin adoption, the role of government debt, and the evolving landscape of monetary policy, including the rise of CBDCs and MMT. At what point will Bitcoin be big enough to challenge government financing? Pascal and Lyn tackle this very question!Chapters: 00:00 Intro 02:16 The Role of Central Banks in Sovereign Financing 02:49 Insights from Writing: Lessons Learned 05:44 The Evolution of Money and Technology 09:01 Central Banking: Purpose and Consequences 11:39 The Impact of Central Banks on Economic Cycles 14:49 The Relationship Between Central Banks and War 17:38 The Connection Between Fiat Currency and War Financing 20:58 The Future of Bitcoin and Its Impact on Sovereignty 23:55 The Role of Bitcoin in Modern Monetary Systems 26:49 The Challenges of Bitcoin Adoption 29:39 The Future of Fiat and Bitcoin Coexistence 32:54 The Endgame of Fiat Currency 35:59 The Role of Government Debt in the Economy 39:00 The Future of Bonds and Treasuries 41:59 The Implications of Treasury Buybacks 44:34 The Late Stage of the Fiat System 47:55 The Role of CBDCs and MMT in the Future 50:44 The Interplay Between Bitcoin and Fiat Systems 53:36 The Future of Monetary Policy and Financial Systems Follow Lyn Alden: Twitter - https://x.com/LynAldenContact Follow me: Twitter - https://x.com/pahueg Nostr - npub1qhx7lnggpv64f0wt5xyjj7h90qh5ewu35pspr66sj8alc4gvcfjqqn04l8 Check out our sponsor Newhedge: https://newhedge.io/ Newhedge is an analytics and intelligence platform for all the Bitcoin data you need! Get 50% off your subscription by using the code "Signal"! 🔥 Our new book is live:Order from Europe: https://www.amazon.de/dp/1967693013 Global: https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B0F9W8Y283 Thank you for subscribing to our channel! We’re excited to have you with us! #centralbanks, #fiatcurrency, #Bitcoin, #monetarypolicy, #warfinancing, #economiccycles, #governmentdebt, #CBDCs, #MMT, #financialsystems #lynalden

Jun 19, 2025 • 1h 9min
Macro brain Jordi Visser: Many established assumptions in macro are being challenged as we speak
In this engaging conversation, Jordi Visser, a trailblazing macro investor and writer for 22v Research, dives into pressing economic issues. He discusses the complexities of U.S. debt within a global context. AI's transformative role in enhancing productivity and profit margins is highlighted, along with concerns about labor market shifts. Visser argues for rethinking traditional economic indicators amid evolving digital landscapes. The chat culminates in an exploration of Bitcoin's revolutionary potential, especially as it relates to AI and stablecoins.

Jun 12, 2025 • 37min
Eric Weiss on how he orange-pilled Michael Saylor
In this conversation, Eric Weiss, Founder and CIO of Bitcoin Investment Group, shares his journey of introducing Bitcoin to Michael Saylor, a pivotal figure in making Bitcoin mainstream. The discussion highlights the increasing interest of high-net-worth individuals in Bitcoin as a safe haven asset. Weiss addresses common concerns over Bitcoin ownership and critiques faced by prominent investors. He also introduces the innovative concept of Bitbonds and explores potential government roles in Bitcoin investments, reshaping the future of finance.

Jun 5, 2025 • 58min
Worldclass CIO from Blockstream: Bitcoin is the magic ingredient to any portfolio
Sean Bill, CIO at Blockstream and an expert in institutional investing, discusses Bitcoin's potential as a game-changer for public pension funds. He emphasizes Bitcoin's unique volatility and low correlation with traditional assets, positioning it as a valuable portfolio addition. Sean also tackles misconceptions about Bitcoin, comparing it to gold rather than a tech stock. The conversation highlights the trend of state-level Bitcoin reserves, self-sovereignty in holdings, and ways to democratize Bitcoin access for retail investors, especially in underserved regions.

May 29, 2025 • 58min
Bloomberg Senior Analyst Eric Balchunas: Bitcoin Spot ETF could have prevented the FTX collapse
In this conversation with Pascal Hügli, Eric Balchunas, a Senior ETF analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence, shares insights on Bitcoin ETFs and their potential to reshape the financial landscape. They discuss how these ETFs attract traditional investors, the rapid rise in their popularity, and the dynamics between retail and institutional holders. Balchunas also addresses regulatory challenges, performance metrics, and the implications of in-kind redemptions. The discussion highlights the broader impact of ETFs on market stability and investor trust.

May 26, 2025 • 50min
Market Strategist: The dawn of junk equities is now
Byron Gilliam, a market strategist at Blockworks with 25 years of international equities trading experience, joins Pascal Hugli to discuss the shifting landscape of cryptocurrency. They compare today's crypto market to the rise of junk bonds, addressing the democratization of capital versus commercialization risks. The conversation delves into the complexities of valuing crypto assets, focusing on social vs. legal claims, and the evolving protocols that shape their future. They also touch on the allure of speculation and the need for robust shareholder rights in the crypto realm.

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May 22, 2025 • 52min
Luke Gromen: US capital controls are inevitable! Here’s what you need to know
Luke Gromen, founder of Forest for the Trees, is a macro strategist renowned for his insights on economic shifts. In this discussion, he reveals the inevitability of U.S. capital controls and their potential impacts on the dollar's reserve status. Gromen highlights the contradictions in U.S. economic policies and suggests that Bitcoin may thrive in a future of capital restrictions. The conversation also covers the challenges of projecting military power and managing U.S. debt, hinting at an emerging new monetary order shaped by global dynamics.

May 15, 2025 • 59min
Head of Alpha Jeff Park: Bitcoin is perfectly made for financial engineering
In this conversation, Pascal Hügli and Jeff Park discuss the unique financialization potential of Bitcoin, its volatility, and the role of corporations in its adoption. They explore how Bitcoin serves as a collateral asset and the implications of indices on corporate strategies. The discussion also touches on the cultural significance of Bitcoin and its future in the global economy. The discussion also touches on the interconnectedness of Bitcoin and stablecoins, suggesting a flywheel effect that could drive further adoption and market growth.Chapters:00:00 Intro01:55 Bitcoin and Hyperfinancialization15:02 Cultural and Social Capital of Bitcoin17:59 Corporate Treasury Indices’ impact on Bitcoin Adoption23:54 Bitcoin as a Cultural Movement33:08 Public-Private Partnerships and Bitcoin Adoption36:00 Bit Bonds and Financial Innovation39:09 The Role of Tether and Stablecoins49:03 Jack Maller and the Optimistic Vision for Bitcoin51:59 The Bitcoin-Stablecoin Flywheel56:07 Tether as a Shadow Central BankFollow Jeff Park:https://x.com/dgt10011Follow me: Twitter - https://x.com/pahuegNostr - npub1qhx7lnggpv64f0wt5xyjj7h90qh5ewu35pspr66sj8alc4gvcfjqqn04l8Check out our sponsor Newhedge:https://newhedge.io/Newhedge is an analytics and intelligence platform for all the Bitcoin data you need! Get 50% off your subscription by using the code "Signal"! 🔥Thank you for subscribing to our channel! We’re excited to have you with us!#Bitcoin, #financialization, #volatility, #corporateadoption, #stablecoins, #socialcapital, #indices, #investmentstrategies, #cryptocurrency, #economicimpact, #Bitcoin, #stablecoins, #publicprivatepartnerships, #financialinnovation, #Tether, #BitBonds, #institutionalinvestment, #consumercontrol, #cryptocurrency, #economictrends

May 12, 2025 • 1h 4min
Fund Researcher: No matter what valuation approach you choose, ether remains overvalued
Kevin Mills, Head of Research at Triton Liquid and FJ Labs, discusses Ethereum’s valuation challenges with Pascal Hugli. They critique Ethereum's dual role as a gas token and a store of value, arguing it leads to market disconnects. Topics include cash flow analysis, institutional perspectives, and Layer 2 solutions. Mills emphasizes Ethereum’s potential as an internet-native commodity and highlights the necessity for investors to navigate the evolving crypto landscape with clarity. Their insights reveal a nuanced understanding of market dynamics and the future of digital assets.

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May 8, 2025 • 1h 35min
Financial plumbing expert Mel Mattison: Why Trump‘s economic agenda mirros MMT
Mel Mattison, a fintech executive with over 25 years of experience, joins the discussion to unravel Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) and its parallels to Trump’s economic strategies. They explore the pressing issues surrounding Social Security and Medicare, emphasizing the impending financial shortfall. The conversation touches on the risks of economic stagnation, the role of the U.S. dollar in global trade, and the potential for a transformative monetary system amidst current challenges. Mattison also highlights the intersection of philosophy and finance in shaping economic decisions.