
Less Noise, More Signal
Welcome to Less Noise, More Signal. In a world saturated with news, hype, and endless chatter, finding clarity can seem like searching for a needle in a haystack. I have taken on this challenge and made it my mission to cut through the noise by amplifying the signal.Who am I? I am Pascal Hügli. With a background in political philosophy, a career in investment management, and a deep expertise in Bitcoin and digital assets, I am here to explore the ideas and connections that others do not bother to see. It’s not just about finding the right answers; it’s about asking the right questions.In each episode, I interview the most insightful thinkers in their respective fields. Every guest contributes a vital piece to the puzzle, helping us form a clearer picture of the forces shaping our world of macro, finance, and money.Listen in as my guests and I tilt the balance from noise to signal, one podcast episode at a time. Let’s cut through the clutter and focus on what truly matters. Ready to elevate your understanding? Let’s dive in.
Latest episodes

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Jul 17, 2025 • 1h 47min
Portfolio Manager Ben Kizemchuk: Stop using 20th century investment models in a 21st century market
Ben Kizemchuk, a portfolio manager at Wellington Altus, shares his insights on the evolving landscape of investment strategies. He and Pascal Hugli discuss fiscal dominance as the new economic driver and the vital 'Four F's' framework for understanding market dynamics. Kizemchuk explores the growing importance of fixed supply assets like gold and Bitcoin, while emphasizing the need for investors to adapt to changes propelled by technology and fiscal policies. Unpacking the limitations of traditional models, he inspires a fresh approach to wealth management in today's economy.

Jul 10, 2025 • 53min
Macro expert: Banks are likely to buy more risk assets soon!
Dive into the complexities of the monetary system with discussions on the Federal Reserve's impact and the Treasury's crucial role. Unpack liquidity dynamics and its effects on market strategies, especially regarding cryptocurrency. Explore the implications of potential changes to the Supplementary Leverage Ratio and how this could lead banks to take on more risk. Also, discover how geopolitical events shape Bitcoin trends and the importance of technical analysis in this evolving financial landscape.

Jul 3, 2025 • 1h 7min
Will Clemente: The U.S. is now in full ponzi mode
Will Clemente, a top crypto analyst and co-founder of Reflexivity Research, shares compelling insights about the U.S. economy and its political landscape. He discusses how figures like Trump and Musk shape economic narratives and explores the burgeoning role of Bitcoin as a hedge against currency devaluation. The conversation delves into the future of altcoins, the emergence of crypto equities, and the responsibility of key opinion leaders in the crypto space to uphold transparency and ethical standards amid market volatility.

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Jun 26, 2025 • 1h 7min
Lyn Alden: At THIS Point, Bitcoin Will Threaten Government Deficit Spending
Lyn Alden, a top-tier investment strategist and bestselling author of "Broken Money," joins Pascal Hügli for a captivating discussion on the intersection of central banking and Bitcoin. They dissect how central banks have historically financed wars and the implications of their policies on economic cycles. Alden explores the potential for Bitcoin to challenge fiat currencies, the obstacles to its adoption, and the evolving role of government debt in this shifting landscape. Will Bitcoin disrupt traditional systems? Tune in for thought-provoking insights!

Jun 19, 2025 • 1h 9min
Macro brain Jordi Visser: Many established assumptions in macro are being challenged as we speak
In this engaging conversation, Jordi Visser, a trailblazing macro investor and writer for 22v Research, dives into pressing economic issues. He discusses the complexities of U.S. debt within a global context. AI's transformative role in enhancing productivity and profit margins is highlighted, along with concerns about labor market shifts. Visser argues for rethinking traditional economic indicators amid evolving digital landscapes. The chat culminates in an exploration of Bitcoin's revolutionary potential, especially as it relates to AI and stablecoins.

Jun 12, 2025 • 37min
Eric Weiss on how he orange-pilled Michael Saylor
In this conversation, Eric Weiss, Founder and CIO of Bitcoin Investment Group, shares his journey of introducing Bitcoin to Michael Saylor, a pivotal figure in making Bitcoin mainstream. The discussion highlights the increasing interest of high-net-worth individuals in Bitcoin as a safe haven asset. Weiss addresses common concerns over Bitcoin ownership and critiques faced by prominent investors. He also introduces the innovative concept of Bitbonds and explores potential government roles in Bitcoin investments, reshaping the future of finance.

Jun 5, 2025 • 58min
Worldclass CIO from Blockstream: Bitcoin is the magic ingredient to any portfolio
Sean Bill, CIO at Blockstream and an expert in institutional investing, discusses Bitcoin's potential as a game-changer for public pension funds. He emphasizes Bitcoin's unique volatility and low correlation with traditional assets, positioning it as a valuable portfolio addition. Sean also tackles misconceptions about Bitcoin, comparing it to gold rather than a tech stock. The conversation highlights the trend of state-level Bitcoin reserves, self-sovereignty in holdings, and ways to democratize Bitcoin access for retail investors, especially in underserved regions.

May 29, 2025 • 58min
Bloomberg Senior Analyst Eric Balchunas: Bitcoin Spot ETF could have prevented the FTX collapse
In this conversation with Pascal Hügli, Eric Balchunas, a Senior ETF analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence, shares insights on Bitcoin ETFs and their potential to reshape the financial landscape. They discuss how these ETFs attract traditional investors, the rapid rise in their popularity, and the dynamics between retail and institutional holders. Balchunas also addresses regulatory challenges, performance metrics, and the implications of in-kind redemptions. The discussion highlights the broader impact of ETFs on market stability and investor trust.

May 26, 2025 • 50min
Market Strategist: The dawn of junk equities is now
Byron Gilliam, a market strategist at Blockworks with 25 years of international equities trading experience, joins Pascal Hugli to discuss the shifting landscape of cryptocurrency. They compare today's crypto market to the rise of junk bonds, addressing the democratization of capital versus commercialization risks. The conversation delves into the complexities of valuing crypto assets, focusing on social vs. legal claims, and the evolving protocols that shape their future. They also touch on the allure of speculation and the need for robust shareholder rights in the crypto realm.

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May 22, 2025 • 52min
Luke Gromen: US capital controls are inevitable! Here’s what you need to know
Luke Gromen, founder of Forest for the Trees, is a macro strategist renowned for his insights on economic shifts. In this discussion, he reveals the inevitability of U.S. capital controls and their potential impacts on the dollar's reserve status. Gromen highlights the contradictions in U.S. economic policies and suggests that Bitcoin may thrive in a future of capital restrictions. The conversation also covers the challenges of projecting military power and managing U.S. debt, hinting at an emerging new monetary order shaped by global dynamics.