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Orion’s The Weighing Machine How does Orion help financial advisors guide investors toward their financial goals? We provide the services and solutions advisors need to help clients stay invested in balanced portfolios. On Orion’s “The Weighing Machine,” featuring Orion Chief Investment Officer Rusty Vanneman, CFA, CMT, BFA, we cut through the market clamor and focus on time-tested principles that help financial advisors and investors reach their long-term financial goals. Each podcast reviews weekly commentary by Orion’s investment team and features a special guest to discuss market headlines.
Wealth Management services are offered by Orion Portfolio Solutions, LLC d/b/a Brinker Capital Investments a registered investment advisor. Orion Portfolio Solutions, LLC is a wholly owned subsidiary of Orion Advisor Solutions, Inc. (“Orion”).
The CFA®️ is a globally respected, graduate-level investment credential established in 1962 and awarded by CFA Institute — the largest global association of investment professionals. To learn more about the CFA charter, visit www.cfainstitute.org.
The CMT Program demonstrates mastery of a core body of knowledge of investment risk in portfolio management. The Chartered Market Technician®️ (CMT) designation marks the highest education within the discipline and is the preeminent designation for practitioners of technical analysis worldwide. To learn more about the CMT, visit https://cmtassociation.org/.
Think2perform’s Behavioral Financial Advice program integrates traditional finance practices with psychology and neuroscience to improve emotional competency and decision-making behavior that increases effective usage of the financial plan with clients. To obtain the Behavioral Financial Advisor (BFA) designation, participants must complete a self-directed course, which takes 20-30 hours to complete, and includes a mix of interactive exercises, videos and case studies. To learn more about the BFA, visit https://www.think2perform.com.
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Wealth Management services are offered by Orion Portfolio Solutions, LLC d/b/a Brinker Capital Investments a registered investment advisor. Orion Portfolio Solutions, LLC is a wholly owned subsidiary of Orion Advisor Solutions, Inc. (“Orion”).
The CFA®️ is a globally respected, graduate-level investment credential established in 1962 and awarded by CFA Institute — the largest global association of investment professionals. To learn more about the CFA charter, visit www.cfainstitute.org.
The CMT Program demonstrates mastery of a core body of knowledge of investment risk in portfolio management. The Chartered Market Technician®️ (CMT) designation marks the highest education within the discipline and is the preeminent designation for practitioners of technical analysis worldwide. To learn more about the CMT, visit https://cmtassociation.org/.
Think2perform’s Behavioral Financial Advice program integrates traditional finance practices with psychology and neuroscience to improve emotional competency and decision-making behavior that increases effective usage of the financial plan with clients. To obtain the Behavioral Financial Advisor (BFA) designation, participants must complete a self-directed course, which takes 20-30 hours to complete, and includes a mix of interactive exercises, videos and case studies. To learn more about the BFA, visit https://www.think2perform.com.
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Nov 21, 2023 • 30min
Todd Morris and Daniel Fields of Polen Capital Management - Investing in High-Quality International Stocks
With some of the best, most innovative, and well-run businesses located beyond U.S. borders, limiting one's investments to the domestic market may inadvertently limit their portfolio's potential growth. While the world's economic activity is dynamic and diverse, smart investors are now exploring opportunities in previously seen as distant and foreign markets.In this episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Daniel Fields and Todd Morris, portfolio managers and analysts at Polen Capital Management. Before joining Polen Capital, Daniel spent eight years in Hong Kong, working for Gavekal Capital and Marshall Wace LLP as a research analyst evaluating Asian growth companies. Todd worked in research and marketing roles with Prudential Insurance and Millennium Global Asset Management, respectively, and served in the U.S. Navy for seven years. Managing Polen Capital's international growth strategy, Daniel and Todd discuss with Rusty and Robyn the case for high-quality and international investing. They emphasize the importance of investing outside the United States. They also highlight the potential for international outperformance in the future, as well as the attractive valuations currently available in international markets.Key Takeaways
[03:21] - Daniel and Todd's personal and professional backgrounds.
[04:35] - An overview of Polen Capital's culture and what makes it unique.
[05:45] - What compounders are and why they are important for investing.
[08:00] - Why Polen Capital invests in concentrated portfolios.
[08:48] - What Polen Capital's article, “Hidden in Plain Sight” is all about.
[10:59] - How Polen Capital specifically defines high-quality companies.
[13:11] - Potential catalysts for the dollar to weaken.
[15:24] - Key takeaways from Polen Capital's “Opportunity Beyond Borders” article.
[17:21] - Recommended allocation for non-U.S. securities.
[19:34] - Daniel and Todd's take on how AI impacts the markets and financial advice.
[21:19] - How Daniel and Todd maintain their physical and mental energy to perform at their best.
[22:32] - The people Daniel and Todd are thankful for professionally.
[24:47] - Daniel and Todd's recommendations for content.
Quotes[08:33] - "We feel that concentration specifically among high-quality, profitable businesses offers the best odds of success over the long run. And so that is very central to how we think and operate as investors." ~ Todd Morris[09:02] - "If you're not investing outside the United States, you're missing out on a whole lot of really good companies. Some of the best, most innovative, and well-run businesses are located outside the United States." ~ Daniel Fields[15:42] - "More than 75% of global activity is happening outside the United States. And while a US-centric or a US-biased allocation has been sensible and has worked well for the last 15 years, that may not always be the case. We should all remember that much of the world's economic activity is happening outside our borders." ~ Todd MorrisLinks
Daniel Fields on LinkedIn
Todd Morris on LinkedIn
Polen Capital
Neighborhood #1 by Arcade Fire
Thunderstruck by AC/DC
Aon
Fisher Investments
Gavekal Capital
Hidden in Plain Sight
Opportunity Beyond Borders
John Wooden
James Stockdale
Louis-Vincent Gave
Alfred Ho
The New Map
The Economist
Admiral Chester Nimitz
The World For Sale
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3129-OPS-11/17/2023

Nov 14, 2023 • 50min
Michael Green of Simplify Asset Management - The Rise of Liquid Alternatives
Historically, investors have predominantly relied on traditional assets such as stocks and bonds to build portfolios. These classic investments have undoubtedly proven their worth over time. However, the modern era has ushered in new opportunities that challenge the status quo. Liquid alternatives, also known as alternative investments, are at the forefront of this revolution. In this episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Michael Green, Portfolio Manager and Chief Strategist at Simplify Asset Management. Michael has been a student of markets and market structure for nearly 30 years. His proprietary research into the shift from actively managed portfolios and investment funds to systematic passive investment strategies has been presented to the Federal Reserve, the BIS, the IMF, and numerous other industry groups and associations. Michael joined Simplify in April 2021 after serving as Chief Strategist and Portfolio Manager for Logica Capital Advisers.Known for his expertise in alternative investments, Mike talks to Rusty and Robyn about the rise of liquid alternatives, such as ETFs and managed futures, and their benefits to investors. He emphasizes the need for diversification and the opportunity to do something different in a market dominated by passive equity and bond exposure. Mike also shares insights on the role of commodities in portfolios. Key Takeaways
[02:18] - Mike's background and how he got to his current position.
[03:38] - How Simplify differs from other investment firms.
[05:02] - Why investors should consider investing in alternatives.
[06:33] - Mike's thoughts on liquid alternatives such as ETFs.
[08:13] - Challenges and reasons for the limited number of ETFs in the alternative space.
[09:49] - Examples of alternative strategies that work well in an ETF format.
[11:27] - The pros and cons of managed futures as a strategy.
[14:38] - Mike's view of commodities from a strategic standpoint.
[21:03] - The recommended strategic weight for alternatives in portfolios.
[23:08] - The concept of crowding out in passive investing.
[29:23] - The catalysts for a shift in portfolio construction.
[32:34] - Mike's take on the credit markets.
[37:18] - Mike's thoughts on how AI impacts the markets and financial advice.
[39:27] - How Mike maintains his physical and mental energy to perform at a high level.
[42:12] - The people Mike is thankful for professionally.
[43:44] - Mike's recommendations for content.
Quotes[05:26] - "The opportunity to do something different is actually a chance to get in front of the crowd in terms of changing the allocation." ~ Michael Green[11:54] - "The real core behind managed futures is simply to reinforce momentum trends and the strength of those trends. It's a strategy that does really well in periods of uncertainty, moving to the resolution of that uncertainty." ~ Michael Green[15:13] - "Commodities are something that we require on a go-forward basis. It's one of the better vehicles for protecting yourself against potential inflationary outcomes. It's also one of the more powerful tools for effectively isolating very significant changes in either supply or demand characteristics in the global economy." ~ Michael GreenLinks
Michael Green on LinkedIn
Michael Green on Twitter
Michael Green's Substack
Simplify Asset Management
Highway to Hell by AC/DC
Logica Funds
Canyon Partners
Facts and Fantasies about Commodity Futures
Grant Williams
Mitchell Julis
Matt Stoller
BIG by Matt Stoller
Honestly Podcast
Hidden Forces Podcast
Danielle DiMartino Booth
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3072-OPS-11/10/2023

Nov 7, 2023 • 47min
Tom Galvin of Columbia Management - Growth Investing and the Future of Active Management
Growth investing has long been a favored strategy for investors seeking to capitalize on the potential of high-growth companies. It's a path often chosen by those who firmly believe in the power of innovation, the potential of disruptive technologies, and the dynamic nature of markets in constant flux. While growth investing is not without risks, it promises the thrill of discovering the next big thing.In this episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Tom Galvin, Lead Portfolio Manager at Columbia Management. Tom has led the strategy since he joined one of the Columbia Threadneedle Investments legacy firms in 2003. With over 20 years of experience as a leading equity strategist and securities analyst, Tom has been named to Institutional Investor's All-America Research Team and The Wall Street Journal’s All-Star Analyst Team.Known for his expertise in highly concentrated growth investing and deep understanding of the technology and consumer sectors, Tom talks about growth investing, diversification, and the future of active management. He also shares his thoughts on the current market conditions, the impact of higher interest rates on growth companies, and his outlook for the “magnificent seven” stocks.Key Takeaways
[02:46] - Tom's background and experience at Columbia Threadneedle Investments.
[05:36] - How Tom manages his team through the changes in the industry.
[06:41] - Three ways investors can implement the growth strategy.
[11:09] - Using correlations to reduce risk and increase diversification.
[14:56] - Money managers who are great at growth investing.
[16:45] - How active managers using fundamental analysis perform.
[18:19] - The connection between the markets and the economy.
[23:00] - How higher rates impact growth investing.
[25:40] - Tom's outlook for the “magnificent seven” companies.
[30:10] - Analysis of Apple's growth potential.
[32:23] - The impact of AI on markets and financial advice.
[35:46] - Tom's perspective on Schwab's performance this year.
[37:38] - Mentors and colleagues Tom is professionally thankful for.
[40:47] - How Tom maintains his physical and mental energy to perform at a high level.
[41:58] - Tom's recommendations for content.
Quotes[07:01] - "Our growth strategy is not 'the' solution, but we're part of a solution." ~ Tom Galvin[16:13] - "As analysts or portfolio managers, we are like detectives. Any detective story you have ever seen on TV usually follows the money trail. That's exactly what we're trying to accomplish." ~ Tom Galvin[18:45] - "The market tends to lead the economy because it's less interested in what happened last year and more interested in what might happen in the future." ~ Tom GalvinLinks
Tom Galvin on LinkedIn
Columbia Threadneedle Investments
Columbia Threadneedle Investments on LinkedIn
The Rising by Bruce Springsteen
Charles Schwab
Bank of America
Who Moved My Cheese
Peter Lynch
Fidelity Investments
Fidelity Magellan Fund
Adobe
Palo Alto Networks
CrowdStrike
Intuit
McCormick & Company
Greenwich Historical Society
Clark Art Institute
Against the Rules with Michael Lewis
The Rewatchables
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3052-OPS-11/8/2023

Oct 31, 2023 • 34min
Bob Doll of Crossmark Global Investments - Aligning Investments and Personal Values
For many, faith provides a moral compass, guiding decisions and actions in both personal and professional matters. This compass extends its influence into the world of investing, giving rise to faith-based investing. This approach allows individuals to merge their faith with their financial portfolio, fostering a harmonious coexistence of monetary growth and ethical principles.In this episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Bob Doll, Chief Investment Officer at Crossmark Global Investments. With over 40 years of experience in the investment management business, Bob has a deep understanding of managing large-cap U.S. equities. He is known for his expertise in faith-based investing and helping clients align their investments with their values. He also utilizes his investment expertise to provide weekly and quarterly investment commentaries and annual market predictions. Bob is a regular guest and contributor to multiple outlets such as Bloomberg TV, Fox Business News, CNBC, and Faith & Finance Live Radio.A legend in the financial services industry, Bob talks about faith-based investing, market predictions, and the current market outlook. Bob shares his insights on the impact of values in investing and how investors can align their investments with their personal beliefs. He also provides his outlook for the economy and the market, including his predictions for inflation, the Fed, and interest rates.Key Takeaways
[02:33] - Bob's background and experience in investment management.
[03:24] - What Crossmark Global Investments is all about.
[04:54] - Aligning faith with financial decisions.
[06:26] - The long-term viability of value-based investing.
[07:21] - How people can learn more about faith-based investing.
[08:17] - How Bob's top 10 predictions for 2023 turned out.
[10:12] - Bob's thought process for creating the top 10 predictions.
[11:35] - Bob's current economic and market outlook.
[13:13] - Possible projections for inflation and interest rates.
[14:58] - Outlook on the “magnificent seven” companies.
[18:34] - Portfolio allocation between high-yield bonds and fixed income.
[22:11] - The impact of geopolitics on investment.
[25:15] - How Bob maintains his physical and mental energy to perform at his best.
[26:54] - How AI can impact the markets and financial advice.
[28:11] - The people Bob is thankful for professionally.
[29:56] - Bob's recommendations for content.
Quotes[04:24] - "People spend a lot of time making sure that how they spend money lines up with who they are. But in between the investment piece, 'Oh, I'll leave that to somebody else.' And they end up owning investments they may not know a whole lot about." ~ Bob Doll[05:13] - "We do our best job to suggest what good values might be in terms of the companies we exclude and the companies we give. My faith as a Christian is there's a standard. It's called God's word, the Bible. We use that as our best attempt to figure out what should be included and what should get excluded." ~ Bob Doll[05:35] - "We sit down with our clients and say, 'What are your values? Let's define them. Get them on a piece of paper so we can try to manage money to fit those values.'" ~ Bob DollLinks
Bob Doll on LinkedIn
Crossmark Global Investments
The Sound of Music
The Economist
Bernstein Private Wealth Management
Bob Doll's Deliberations
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2951-OPS-10/27/2023

Oct 24, 2023 • 47min
George Svagera and Ryan Donovan of Orion - FinTech Trends That Help Advisors Win More Business
The impact of fintech on financial advisory practices has been nothing short of transformative. The collaboration between fintech innovators and financial advisors not only drives innovation but significantly enhances the overall client experience, revolutionizing the way financial services are delivered and received. However, it is not merely about adopting technology. It's about being purposeful in adopting new technology and seeking solutions that align with the specific needs of their business.In this episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Ryan Donovan, Senior VP of Institutional Sales, and George Svagera, Senior VP of Business Development for Enterprise at Orion. In his role, Ryan works to show registered investment advisors how Orion's technology and integrations can help them grow and improve efficiency. On the other hand, George oversees Orion's enterprise sales. He works with mainly broker-dealers, banks, and custodians in leveraging both the tech and wealth management sides.George and Ryan talk to Rusty and Robyn about disruptive trends, top tech features, and how advisors can leverage fintech to stay ahead of the curve. They highlight the impact of fintech on financial service providers and the importance of integration and seamless workflows for advisors. George and Ryan also discuss how emerging technologies change how advisors operate and deliver value.Key Takeaways
[04:25] - George and Ryan's professional backgrounds and roles at Orion.
[06:45] - What led to the creation of Ryan and George's podcast, The Fuse Show.
[08:24] - FinTech trends impacting the financial advisory space today.
[12:46] - How technology is changing the way advisors operate and deliver value.
[23:06] - Features and capabilities advisors value the most.
[27:59] - How advisors can leverage fintech to stay ahead of the curve and meet client expectations.
[32:46] - Ryan and George's advice to financial advisors looking to leverage the fintech landscape.
[34:49] - Ryan and George's favorite investment idea.
[35:24] - How Ryan and George maintain their physical and mental health to perform at their peak.
[37:15] - The people Ryan and George are thankful for professionally.
[39:39] - Ryan and George's recommendations for content.
[41:13] - Upcoming episodes of The Fuse Show that Ryan and George are excited about.
Quotes[08:40] - "When you look at advisors, regardless of your affiliation with a broker-dealer or whether you're independent, you're an RIA, or you're with a wirehouse, ultimately, what you want is to minimize the friction of interacting with your clients so that you could serve them best." ~ Ryan Donovan[21:51] - "One of the biggest game changers that will impact advisors, but something that their firms don't necessarily have to do, is real-time data streaming more than anything else." ~ George Svagera[28:13] - "As a technology company, we leverage a lot of technology to run our business. You have to be purposeful in it. You have to set aside time to learn what it does to train yourself on it to understand what it does and how it can help run your day or make you more efficient." ~ George SvageraLinks
Ryan Donovan on LinkedIn
Ryan Donovan on Twitter
George Svagera on LinkedIn
George Svagera on Twitter
Head Like A Hole by Nine Inch Nails
X Gon' Give It To Ya by DMX
The Fuse Show
Redtail Technology
Dr. Daniel Crosby
Orion BeFi20
The Risk Tolerance Questionnaire
Future Proof
Eric Clarke
Todd Powell
Yellowstone
The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin
Only Murders in the Building
Band of Brothers
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2905-OPS-10/23/2023

Oct 17, 2023 • 37min
John Davi of Astoria Portfolio Advisors - ETF Model Portfolios and Factor Investing
The future of ETF model portfolios and factor investing appears promising. With the continued growth of the ETF industry and the increasing demand for diversified and risk-adjusted investment solutions, ETF model portfolios are likely to gain further traction. As investors navigate the challenges of a deglobalized world environment, the principles of factor investing and quality investing will continue to play a crucial role in achieving long-term financial goals.In this episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with John Davi, Founder, CEO, and CIO at Astoria Portfolio Advisors. John is an award-winning research strategist with over 20 years of experience across macro ETF strategy, quantitative research, and portfolio construction. Before starting Astoria, he was the head of Morgan Stanley's Institutional ETF Content and advised many of the world's largest hedge funds and asset managers on ETF portfolio construction. John published hundreds of reports in his research career across various topics, from ETFs, indices, and futures to structured products. John talks to Rusty and Robyn about ETF model portfolios and factor investing. He emphasizes the importance of active management, diversification, and quality investing in the current market environment.Key Takeaways
[03:14] - What inspired John to get into investment management.
[04:29] - An overview of Astoria Portfolio Advisors and its services.
[05:53] - John's journey in developing ETF Model Portfolios.
[07:36] - What sets Astoria's ETF Model Portfolio apart from others?
[09:09] - How boutique ETF strategists can compete against major ETF providers.
[10:32] - The future growth of the ETF industry and ETF models.
[11:39] - How factor investing works.
[16:02] - Why quality is Astoria's true north.
[17:40] - How real estate investing is similar to factor investing.
[18:51] - John's view on the macroeconomic landscape.
[20:34] - Investing in a deglobalized world.
[23:03] - John's outlook for the next three quarters.
[25:25] - Recommended strategic weight for non-U.S. equities.
[26:50] - John's view of artificial intelligence in investment management.
[28:05] - John's favorite investment idea.
[29:26] - How John maintains his physical and mental energy to perform at his best.
[30:51] - The people John is thankful for professionally.
[31:58] - John's recommendations for content.
Quotes[09:55] - "Diversifying our factors and using liquid alts can help you get higher up in the efficient frontier." ~ John Davi[15:21] - "It's very attractive to just own beta. But when you own a few factors, you get a smoother return." ~ John Davi[16:26] - "Quality is the most consistent of the factors. It's basically like buying good companies with good balance sheets. They pay dividends, they don't take on a lot of debt, and the consistency of their earnings and their earnings beats." ~ John DaviLinks
John Davi on LinkedIn
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Astoria Portfolio Advisors
No Sleep Till Brooklyn by the Beastie Boys
Merrill Lynch
Vanguard
Larry Swedroe
Portfolio Visualizer
Orangetheory
The White Lotus
Deep Work by Cal Newport
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2851-OPS-10/16/2023

Oct 10, 2023 • 38min
Mike Akins with ETF Action - How to Navigate the ETF Marketplace
As investors increasingly seek to optimize their portfolios and adapt to changing market conditions, exchange-traded funds (ETFs) have emerged as an effective and rapidly evolving investment vehicle. While ETFs have proven superior to traditional mutual funds, they have also ushered in a new era of opportunities and challenges for investors, financial advisors, and the industry.In this episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Mike Akins, Founding Partner at ETF Action. Mike has over 20 years of financial industry experience spanning multiple disciplines. Before founding ETF Action, Mike served as SVP and Head of ETFs at ALPS Advisors, overseeing all aspects of the $15 billion ALPS ETF Trust. Throughout his career, Mike has held various management positions in product development, research and data analytics, risk management, compliance, audit, and operations. Mike talks to Rusty and Robyn about how to navigate the ETF marketplace, covering topics such as the growth and future of the ETF industry, the historical and projected growth of ETFs, the rise of ETF model portfolios, and the challenges and opportunities facing the industry.Key Takeaways
[03:53] - Mike's career journey from compliance to ETFs.
[05:01] - The historical and projected growth of the ETF industry.
[07:12] - Competitive threats to ETFs.
[10:18] - Potential benefits and limitations of direct indexing.
[12:13] - Possible risks that may hinder the growth of ETFs in the future.
[13:36] - The percentage of advisors choosing ETFs themselves vs. outsourcing to ETF models.
[15:41] - How ETF Action supports advisors in adopting ETF models.
[17:41] - The growth prospects of models in the coming years.
[18:37] - How other models compete against giant industries.
[21:21] - Delivering ETFs that align with investors' criteria.
[23:15] - Opportunities and challenges for the future of the ETF market.
[25:46] - Mike's concerns about liquidity and market complacency.
[26:58] - The impact of artificial intelligence on the ETF industry.
[28:16] - Mike's favorite investment idea.
[29:25] - How Mike maintains his physical and mental energy to perform at his best.
[30:31] - The people for whom Mike is grateful, both personally and professionally.
[32:23] - Mike's recommendations for content.
Quotes[05:35] - "The ETF is a superior structure to mutual funds. Therefore, as people have the opportunity to transfer assets, whether it's required minimum distributions from their qualified accounts or there's a reason to sell their mutual fund and realize those gains, it naturally flows into the ETF market." ~ Mike Akins[18:07] - "If you're an advisor or if you're an independent network of advisors, having models not only will lead to better outcomes, which is the ultimate game, but it also is going to lead to more efficiencies and time saved, and it's going to allow advisors to continue to scale their business." ~ Mike Akins[21:30] - "What attracts me to the ETF market is the ability to map almost any liquid investment in the world. You have every corner of the market covered by an ETF, and with a push of a button, I can track in real-time what's going on with that market through the ETF." ~ Mike AkinsLinks
Mike Akins on LinkedIn
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ETF Action
It's in the Way That You Use It by Eric Clapton
State Street
Vanguard
iShares
BlackRock
Global X ETFs
Tom Carter
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2774-OPS-10/6/2023

Oct 3, 2023 • 42min
Vern Montross of City National Rochdale - The Complexity of Managing High-Net-Worth Portfolios
High-net-worth individuals often have many objectives, ranging from wealth preservation and growth to estate planning and philanthropy. Each objective has its own intricacies, requiring careful consideration and customization to meet each client's unique needs. In this episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Vern Montross, Western Division Managing Director at City National Rochdale. In his role, Vern is responsible for cultivating and developing relationships with financial professionals, including financial advisors, CPAs and attorneys, and their high-net-worth clients in Texas. He works in concert with these professional advisors and City National Rochdale portfolio managers to develop long-term, risk-managed investment strategies.Working in close partnership with each client's trusted advisor to develop an insightful personal benchmark, Vern talks about the complexity of managing high-net-worth portfolios, what it takes to serve high-net-worth clients, and what intelligent personalization is all about. Key Takeaways
[03:30] - How Vern transitioned from biology to finance.
[05:13] - The role of CNR in the investment management industry.
[07:51] - What makes CNR different from other investment firms that manage high-net-worth investors?
[11:15] - What it is like to work with CNR's portfolio managers and investment consultants.
[12:54] - How CNR works with high-net-worth investors.
[16:22] - What intelligent personalization means.
[19:08] - Vern's outlook for the stock market, inflation, interest rates, and the bond market.
[24:37] - How CNR applies its market outlook to client portfolios.
[27:59] - Vern's thoughts on artificial intelligence's impact on investing.
[31:07] - One of Vern's favorite investment ideas.
[33:35] - How Vern maintains his physical and mental energy to perform at a high level.
[34:54] - The people Vern is thankful for professionally.
[37:18] - Vern's recommendations for content.
Quotes[06:04] - "We're a collection of problem solvers, very much like scientists and engineers. We want to study what a potential solution looks like, stress test it, and make sure it works and is appropriate." ~ Vern Montross[06:31] - "We don't pre-manufacture our solutions. We don't have inventory on the shelf, and we don't pre-manufacture products. We work with every single client based on their unique situation." ~ Vern Montross[16:50] - "Just because something is different or specific doesn't mean it's also optimal. So, I think of intelligent personalization as customization with intelligent awareness." ~ Vern MontrossLinks
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City National Rochdale
Mr. Brightside by the Killers
The Fabric of Reality
Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade
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1592-OPS-6/12/2023

Sep 26, 2023 • 29min
Julie Cane of Democracy Investments - Investing in Freedom
Democracy as an investment theme is not solely driven by ideology. It's grounded in data and a deep understanding of global dynamics. By understanding the relationship between geopolitics and investment, individuals can make more informed decisions about where to allocate their capital, aligning their investments with their values and convictions.In this episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Julie Cane, Co-Founder, Managing Partner, and CEO of Democracy Investments. Julie began her career as a U.S. naval aviator flying the SH-3 Sea King helicopter. In 2002, Julie developed Wells Fargo Private Bank's first high net worth and segmentation strategies, resulting in over a 100% increase in the division's profits for the next three years. Julie's background in financial services includes developing market-leading innovations at Wells Fargo, Charles Schwab Advisor Services, SEI Investments, and Autodesk Ventures.Having served in a capacity that allowed a unique vantage point into the world's political landscape, Julie talks to Rusty and Robyn about democracy and how it is good for investors. She highlights how global democracies impact the markets and why it makes sense to invest in freedom. Julie also provides an interesting and useful perspective on international investing, shedding light on the benefits of transparency, stability, and a commitment to freedom.Key Takeaways
[02:47] - Julie's background and professional career.
[03:54] - The inspiration behind Democracy Investments' foundation.
[05:53] - What sets Democracy Investments' international ETF apart from other international funds.
[07:15] - Why the economies and markets of democratic economies are better than the authoritarian ones.
[08:24] - Julie's thoughts on the decline of democracy over the last 16 years.
[09:36] - How Democracy Investments uses The Economist's democracy index to measure democracy.
[10:23] - The countries with the best and worst performance in terms of democracy.
[12:42] - The countries whose portfolio weights have gained and lost the most.
[13:51] - Julie's perspective on the shifting structure of the global economy.
[15:59] - Julie's take on the congressional probe into MSCI and BlackRock.
[19:19] - Julie's view on the impact of artificial intelligence on the industry.
[20:10] - The investment idea Julie likes the most.
[21:05] - How Julie maintains her physical and mental energy to perform at her best.
[23:21] - The people Julie is thankful for professionally.
[26:22] - Julie's recommendations for content.
Quotes[04:00] - "Our company was born out of concern for democracy. With my time serving, I became aware, at a young age, of trends in democracy. After I got out, I stayed in touch with my friends who are still serving, and they opened my eyes to everything going on in the world." ~ Julie Cane[06:08] - "We want to provide investors with an alternative for international exposure that accounts for geopolitical risk. We achieve that by starting the same basket on stocks in an all-world ex-U.S. index." ~ Julie Cane[08:02] - "We believe democracies will outperform authoritarians because they're more transparent and are less corrupt. Authoritarians do not want capitalists to be bigger than the state." ~ Julie CaneLinks
Julie Cane on LinkedIn
Democracy Investments
It's The End Of The World As We Know It by R.E.M.
Wells Fargo
Charles Schwab
Christopher Browne
Edward Rosenberg
Jenny Johnson
The Economist
Freedom House
Chip Roame
Skip Schweiss
Straight Arrow News
Chip & Skip's Excellent Adventure
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2667-OPS-9/25/2023

Sep 19, 2023 • 46min
Dr. Daniel Crosby of Orion - What's on Your Bookshelf
This edition of The Weighing Machine marks the inaugural episode of "What's on Your Bookshelf," a segment that delves into the personal libraries of guests. This literary journey begins with exploring Dr. Daniel Crosby's bookshelf, Orion's Chief Behavioral Officer. What makes this edition so extraordinary is its unique focus on the world of books and their impact on Dr. Daniel's life. From the book that has left a mark on his heart and mind to the oldest resting on his bookshelf, this episode goes deep into the world of literature.Key Takeaways
[02:24] - The book that’s had the most significant impact on Dr. Daniel's life.
[04:34] - The books that he has given most.
[08:34] - Books Dr. Daniel authored that he is most proud of.
[11:31] - Best books in finance Dr. Daniel has not written.
[14:11] - Favorite author.
[15:48] - The story behind the oldest books on Dr. Daniel's bookshelf.
[20:23] - Annual book selection.
[23:17] - Criteria for purchasing new books.
[27:07] - The book that challenges his perspective.
[32:52] - Dr. Daniel's take on the impact of AI on the financial industry.
[34:09] - Favorite investment strategy.
[35:11] - How Dr. Daniel maintains his physical and mental energy.
[37:07] - The people Dr. Daniel is thankful for professionally.
[39:54] - Podcast recommendations.
Quotes[03:03] - "The most valuable part of my education was having to ground your interventions and thinking in a philosophy and make sure that the things that you were doing with clients were underpinned by research and theory and just some consistent thinking and not just grab baggy." ~ Dr. Daniel Crosby[21:40] - "Behavior change is the root of everything I do. I love the themes of reinvention. I am a foolish optimist in thinking that even really wayward people can, at any moment, turn it all around and totally reinvent themselves and do differently." ~ Dr. Daniel CrosbyLinks
Dr. Daniel Crosby on X
Orion Behavioral Finance
Standard Deviations with Dr. Daniel Crosby
How to Disappear Completely by Radiohead
Either/Or - Album by Elliot Smith
Turn! Turn! Turn! (To Everything There Is a Season) by The Byrds
Tetragrammaton - "Rory Sutherland" with Rick Rubin
Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
Bonds That Make Us Free: Healing Our Relationships, Coming to Ourselves by C. Terry Warner
Leadership and Self Deception: Getting Out of the Box by The Arbinger Institute
You're Not That Great by Dr. Daniel Crosby
The Laws of Wealth: Psychology and the secret to investing success by Dr. Daniel Crosby
The Behavioral Investor by Dr. Daniel Crosby
Everyone You Love Will Die by Dr. Daniel Crosby
Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness by Richard H. Thaler and Cass R. Sunstein
The Psychology of Money: Timeless lessons on wealth, greed, and happiness by Morgan Housel
Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman
The Little Book of Behavioral Investing: How not to be your own worst enemy by James Montier
Either/Or: A Fragment of Life by Soren Kierkegaard
The Little Prince by Antoine De Saint-Exupéry
The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein
The Tree Who Set Healthy Boundaries by Topher Payne
Thidwick the Big-Hearted Moose by Dr. Seuss
A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens
Ametora: How Japan Saved American Style by W. David Marx
The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt
Behavioral Portfolio Management: How successful investors master their emotions and build superior portfolios by C. Thomas Howard
The Creative Act: A Way of Being by Rick Rubin
Viktor Frankl's Logotherapy
Dr. Crosby's Behavioral Finance Reading List
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2602-OPS-9/19/2023