GreenPill

Kevin Owocki
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Oct 29, 2025 β€’ 50min

Season 10. Episode 3: Protocols for Post-Capitalist Expression: Rethinking Capital with Akseli, Dick & Jorge

New @greenpillnet pod out today! Kevin talks with Akseli Virtanen, co-founder of the Economic Space Agency (EXA), along with co-authors Dick Bryan and Jorge Lopez, about their groundbreaking book Protocols for Post-Capitalist Expression. They explore how capital is itself a protocol, how post-capitalism can emerge through new economic grammars, and why distributed finance and programmable accounting could redefine value beyond markets and the state. If you've ever wondered how economics, coordination, and code might come together to create new forms of collective value, this episode is for you. 🌐 Links https://greenpill.network/ https://ecsa.io/?L=3.ecsa,3.welcome πŸ“˜ Protocols for Post-Capitalist Expression (Book)  https://postcapitalist.agency/#  🐦 @owocki @greenpillnet @econaut6 🌐 Timestamps 00:00 – Intro: Welcome to the new Greenpill season β€” exploring tech, coordination & Protopia 00:40 – Introducing guest Akseli Virtanen and co-authors Dick Bryan & Jorge Lopez 02:00 – What is Protocols for Post-Capitalist Expression about? 03:20 – Computational networks as new economic media 04:00 – The problem: today's systems run on outdated economic logic 05:10 – Why we need new economic languages to express ecological and social value 06:20 – Viewing the economy as a networking protocol 07:00 – Capital as a coordination protocol, not a natural law 08:40 – How protocol politics define power and participation 09:40 – Why political change must happen at the level of infrastructure 11:20 – Understanding capital as an accounting protocol 12:10 – The interdisciplinary process of co-authoring the book 13:30 – Why protocols are the new unit of economic intervention 14:50 – How distributed protocols can re-engineer value systems 16:00 – Multiple logics of measurement: beyond price and profit 17:40 – How new metrics of "use value" redefine what counts as surplus 19:20 – Defining post-capitalism: new grammars for value creation 20:00 – Living "in the spread" between capitalism and post-capitalism 21:30 – The shift from exchange value to use value 23:00 – Distributed economic agency: moving power to the network edge 25:30 – Defining the Economic Space Agency β€” what it means to co-author economies 27:30 – Surplus logic: from profit to utility 29:00 – Designing programmable economic spaces for collective value 30:50 – How post-capitalism can interoperate with existing markets 33:10 – Why public goods need new accounting categories 35:00 – Coordination beyond the state: self-sustaining networks of value 37:00 – The liquidity problem: bootstrapping new economic systems 38:30 – Designing a bridge between capital and post-capital 40:20 – Respecting both systems' internal logics for sustainable coexistence 42:30 – Innovation: the bridge as a design breakthrough 44:00 – Formalizing economics in programmable code 45:40 – How distributed systems expand what's economically possible 47:30 – How to get involved: joining EXA's newsletter & Economic Media Lab 48:30 – Final reflections: multiple metrics of value and economic imagination 49:10 – Closing remarks: keep building, experimenting, and coordinating
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Oct 24, 2025 β€’ 1h 1min

Network Nations Ep:1- Building Trust at Scale — A New Season with Primavera & Felix Beer

New @greenpillnet season out now! 🌐 Hosted by Primavera De Filippi and Felix Beer, this episode kicks off a new Greenpill Mini-Series exploring Network Nations β€” translocal communities that use technology, shared culture, and bottom-up governance to organize beyond borders. They discuss how Network Nations differ from Network States, the roots of this idea in commons-based governance, and how digital sovereignty, culture, and Web3 tools can empower civil society to act collectively across the world. 🎧 Learn more β†’ https://networknations.network 🌐 https://blockchaingov.eu  | https://greenpill.network 🐦 @owocki @greenpillnet 🌐 Timestamps 00:00 – Cold start  01:05 – Welcome to the new season hosted by Primavera De Filippi & Felix Beer 02:30 – What are Network Nations and why they matter 03:50 – Network Nations vs Network States: key differences 05:00 – Season formats: Deep Dives and Community Spotlights 06:00 – Origins of the Network Nations concept 07:40 – Early gatherings: Zuzalu, EdgeCity, and Emerge Lakefront 09:30 – Bridging theory and practice: researchers meet practitioners 11:30 – Defining Network Nations: translocal and interconnected communities 12:30 – The meaning of translocality: networks that empower local nodes 14:00 – From online groups to shared culture and identity 15:20 – Networks of networks: building community at scale 16:50 – Internal vs external purpose: culture and collective impact 18:00 – Collective action as a way to strengthen community 19:10 – Balancing scale and trust: connecting networks and communities 20:50 – Building trust-rich relationships across global networks 23:00 – Case study 1: Burning Man as a translocal culture 25:00 – Case study 2: Regen Network and regenerative coordination 27:00 – Comparing cultural and infrastructural approaches 28:30 – Cross-pollination between Web3 and social movements 29:15 – Why use the word "Nation" instead of "Community"? 30:40 – Reclaiming the term "Nation" beyond nationalism 32:00 – Detaching nations from states: a new political lens 33:20 – Functional sovereignty: autonomy without territory 34:00 – Balaji's Network State model and its limitations 36:00 – The Network Nation's non-territorial approach to governance 38:00 – Communities coexisting with states through functional sovereignty 40:00 – Sovereignty as a collective good, not a product 42:00 – The commons as a third path beyond market and state 44:00 – Overlapping sovereignties vs exit-based systems 46:00 – How Web3 enables distributed governance infrastructures 48:00 – Independence from big tech and value-biased algorithms 50:20 – Empowering civil society through translocal coordination 52:00 – Network Nations as a meta-political framework 54:00 – Diversifying global governance and emerging experiments 55:00 – Building the Network Nations Alliance and community platform 57:00 – Beyond Web3: connecting bioregional and intentional communities 59:00 – How to get involved: calls, Telegram, and collaboration 01:00:20 – Closing reflections: building the next generation of network-native institutions
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Oct 22, 2025 β€’ 26min

Season 10. Episode 2: Deep Funding: The Future of AI-Powered Public Goods Allocation with Devansh Mehta

New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌱 Kevin chats with Devansh Mehta about Deep Funding β€” an AI-powered mechanism combining human judgment and prediction markets to fund open-source projects. They dive into how it scales evaluations, prevents Sybil attacks, and builds a fair "price feed" for public goods ahead of Gitcoin Grants 24 (GG24). Links: 🌐grants.gitcoin.co  🌐 deepfunding.org 🌐 deep.seer.pm 🌐 greenpill.network 🐦 @owocki @greenpillnet  ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – Intro: Welcome to the Greenpill Podcast – exploring tech, coordination & Protopia 00:45 – Introducing guest Devansh Mehta, AI & Public Goods Lead at the Ethereum Foundation 01:20 – What is Deep Funding and why it matters 02:00 – How Deep Funding scales human evaluations with AI models 02:45 – Overview of the pilot run and what was tested 03:20 – How the mechanism works: human jurors + model builders 04:30 – The White Hat Sybil attack and what it revealed 05:40 – How Deep Funding integrates data science competitions and prediction markets 06:50 – Results of the pilot: weighted funding for 45 open-source repos 07:30 – Creating a credibly neutral funding system with unequal weights 08:40 – Comparing Deep Funding with Protocol Guild and other mechanisms 09:20 – Building a strong community of AI developers and human jurors 10:30 – The role of jurors and models in fair evaluation 11:10 – What's next: expanding to 90 repos in Gitcoin Grants 24 (GG24) 11:50 – Funding pool: $350K from Ethereum Foundation & Gitcoin 12:30 – Challenges of distributing capital efficiently and fairly 13:20 – Moving to GitHub repo-level governance: who controls the funds? 14:40 – Two models of spending: splits contracts vs counterfactual wallets 15:40 – Lessons from past Gitcoin funding rounds 16:20 – Why Deep Funding focuses on units of work, not organizations 17:20 – Avoiding distortions and improving fairness in funding 18:10 – The vision: creating a live price feed for public goods 19:10 – How prediction markets price open-source value 20:30 – Self-correcting market behavior and real-time adjustments 21:20 – Subsidies and liquidity: bootstrapping active participation 22:10 – Balancing liquidity levels to prevent manipulation 23:00 – What's next for Deep Funding: refining future iterations 23:40 – Shoutout to the model builders and competition winners 24:20 – Where to learn more: deepfunding.org  & deep.seer.pm 25:00 – Closing: the future of AI, governance, and funding what matters
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Oct 15, 2025 β€’ 57min

GG24: Inside the First Funding Round of Gitcoin 3.0 — Funding What Matters

New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌱 Kevin chats with the team behind Gitcoin Grants 24 (GG24) β€” the first round of Gitcoin 3.0 β€” exploring how community-led "domains," multi-mechanism rounds, and coalition funding are reshaping public goods on Ethereum. Featuring Mathilda, Luuk, Sav, John Guilding, David Dao, Afo, Paul, Monty, Rohit, and Devansh, covering topics from privacy and interoperability to public goods R&D, adoption, and dev tooling. 🎧 Learn how GG24 is funding what matters + Apply to get funding β†’ grants.gitcoin.co 🌐 greenpill.network  @owocki @gitcoin @greenpillnet Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction: Welcome to a new Greenpill season and overview of GG24 01:25 – What is GG24? New approach and community-driven structure 03:10 – Domains overview: Privacy, DevTooling, Public Goods R&D, Interop, Adoption 05:00 – Transition from Gitcoin 2.0 to 3.0 and the end of Gitcoin's software stack 06:30 – Embracing community-led multi-mechanism funding 07:40 – The rise of coalitional funding and collaboration across ecosystems 09:10 – Reflections from the GG24 team on coordination and sense-making 11:00 – How builders can participate in the new Gitcoin 3.0 structure 12:30 – Privacy Domain with John Guilding (Ethereum Foundation, PSE) 13:15 – Why privacy matters to Ethereum and how GG24 supports it 14:20 – Using MACI (Minimal Anti-Collusion Infrastructure) for private voting 16:00 – Combining retroactive funding and quadratic voting 18:30 – Preventing collusion and promoting privacy-first governance 19:20 – Four focus areas: Privacy R&D, DApps, Infrastructure, and Education 20:40 – Public Goods R&D Domain with David Dao, Afo, and Paul 21:50 – Research meets tooling: advancing public goods funding mechanisms 23:00 – Why public goods research matters now 25:00 – From quadratic funding to new allocation algorithms 27:00 – How conviction voting and retrofunding mechanisms work 29:00 – Fast grants and peer-review models inspired by academia 30:00 – Final thoughts: public goods as Ethereum's biggest export 31:00 – Targeted Development & Adoption Domain with Luuk and Monty 31:40 – Supporting high-impact real-world use cases 33:00 – The new role of domain operators and coalition builders 34:40 – From centralized grants to networked, local funding models 36:30 – Ethereum Localism and the TrustGraph initiative 38:20 – Ethereum for the World: sustainable adoption and real-world projects 40:00 – Interop & Open Data Domain with Rohit 40:35 – Making Ethereum interoperable: connecting ecosystems and L2s 42:10 – Quadratic funding via Giveth and open infrastructure projects 43:20 – Measuring progress through open data and analytics 44:30 – How interop enhances credible neutrality and capital allocation 46:00 – DevTooling & Infrastructure Domain with Mathilda and Devansh Mehta 47:10 – Why DevTooling topped the sense-making report 48:20 – Introducing Deep Funding: prediction markets for open-source repos 50:20 – How QF and Deep Funding work together in GG24 52:00 – New eligibility criteria and builder participation 54:20 – Four ways to participate: trader, evaluator, project, or funder 57:00 – Closing remarks and call to action: join GG24 at grants.gitcoin.co
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Oct 3, 2025 β€’ 40min

Season 10. Episode 1: Full Stack AI Alignment and Human Flourishing with Joe Edelman

Joe Edelman, founder of the Meaning Alignment Institute, discusses AI alignment and human flourishing. He critiques existing methods like RLHF, advocating for deeper 'thick models' of value to guide AI and institutions. Joe shares lessons from social media's failure and proposes four ambitious moonshots: super negotiators, public resource regulators, market intermediaries, and value stewardship agents. He emphasizes the need for collaboration across disciplines to ensure that technological advances align with genuine human values and societal well-being.
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Aug 6, 2025 β€’ 18min

builtonethereum.network

https://www.builtonethereum.network/ https://x.com/petheth Timestamps-  00:00 - Introduction to the GreenPill.Network Podcast 01:03 - Launching the Documentary: Built on Ethereum 02:22 - Exploring the Use Cases of Ethereum 05:39 - Real-World Impact of Crypto in Developing Countries 06:59 - Inspiring the Disillusioned: A Call to Action 10:27 - The Balance of Cynicism and Hope in Crypto 12:05 - Future Projects and the Meta Media Production Company 14:25 - About Argentina on Chain initiative 16:26 - Closing remark
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Jul 23, 2025 β€’ 57min

Season 9. Episode 4: Knowledge Gardens: Cultivating Digital Resilience

Discover the concept of 'knowledge gardens' as innovative spaces for sharing information and fostering community engagement. Explore how blending ancient wisdom with modern technology can enhance digital resilience. Dive into the challenges posed by the 'Wetiko' mind virus and learn how community-centric approaches can combat its effects. Hear about the crucial role of local journalism in maintaining trust and social connections in a polarized world. Uncover strategies for safeguarding local knowledge against the risks of mainstream digital platforms.
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Jul 16, 2025 β€’ 1h 16min

Season 9. Episode 3: Embracing Duality: Living Off-Grid in Modern Society

🟒🟒🟒Show your support on twitter 🟒🟒🟒 https://journodao.xyz/  https://x.com/journodao  https://x.com/JohannaDeBiase  https://x.com/EricCMack  https://x.com/taykendesign  https://x.com/crystaldstreet Learn more about the GreenPill movement, Join a local chapter, or download one of our books for free at https://greenpill.network/  Timestamps-  00:00 Cold Start 01:16 Podcast Introduction & Co-host Intros 03:19 Off-Grid Life: How It Started 07:50 Collapse as a Slow Burn 13:34 Collapse Causes: Oil, Governance & Capitalism 22:50 Crypto & Decentralization for Local Resilience 26:48 Crypto's Global Disparity & Learning from the South 32:53 Crypto's Image Problem: Innovation vs Crime 35:19 Rise of AI & Skill-Based Living 39:52 Van Life, Urgency & Communal Pods 45:41 Minimalism & the Gen Z 'Back to Land' Movement 50:52 Community-Capitalism & the Third Sector 57:24 Trump, National Strike & Rural Revival 01:07:50 Co-Living, Taos Communes & Networked Communities 01:13:21 Closing Thoughts & Calls to Action  
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Jul 9, 2025 β€’ 1h 19min

Season 9. Episode 2: Reimagining Journalism with Emergent Technology

🟒🟒🟒Show your support on twitter 🟒🟒🟒 https://journodao.xyz/  https://x.com/journodao  https://x.com/kaxline  https://x.com/EricCMack  https://x.com/taykendesign  https://x.com/crystaldstreet Learn more about the GreenPill movement, Join a local chapter, or download one of our books for free at https://greenpill.network/  Timestamps-  00:00 Cold Start  02:10 The Evolution of Journalism: From Analog to Digital 06:43 Nostalgia vs. Reality: The State of Journalism Today 11:58 Decentralization and Blockchain: A New Frontier for Journalism 20:00 Community-Centric Journalism: Reviving Local News 27:12 The Role of Technology in Journalism's Future 34:13 Generational Shifts: The Future of Journalism Education 42:16 Finding Value in Journalism: A New Economic Model 51:15 The Power of Attention: Shaping the Narrative 58:10 Conclusion: Embracing Change in Journalism 58:42 Redefining value in journalism & Gen Z's evolving role 01:02:21 Cross-generational collaboration & the power of attention 01:05:49 Media narratives, intention, and attention economy shifts 01:08:10 Human-centered storytelling & emotional responsibility 01:14:26  Tech as a corrective force & journalism as emotional processing 01:18:26 Wrap-up
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Jul 2, 2025 β€’ 1h 6min

Season 9. Episode 1: Building Community in Times of Transition

In this engaging discussion, Eric Mack from JournoDAO dives deep into the intricacies of building community in collapsing systems. With a journalism background focused on Web3, he highlights the challenges of trust and integrity in decentralized tech. Topics include the tension between idealism and practicality, the concept of integrity vacuums in crypto, and the importance of personal relationships in community resilience. They also touch on navigating societal transitions, balancing human values with AI, and the role of leadership in fostering genuine connections.

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