Marc Ziade, co-founder of VDAO and founder of Fifth World, teams up with Kris Miller, Crypto director at Fifth World, to dive into the innovative concept of antifragile network states. They explore how regenerative systems thrive under stress, moving beyond fragility in community structures. The duo discusses the intersection of crypto coordination and permaculture to enhance local sovereignty and resilience. Listeners can expect insights on practical examples, such as local food production, fostering self-sufficient and adaptive communities.
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VDAO Origins And Fifth World Work
Marc runs Fifth World, building autonomous regenerative properties for energy, water, and food infrastructure.
He and Kris co-founded VDAO to connect crypto and permaculture communities around self-sovereignty.
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Boulder Hangout Sparked The Season
Kevin hosted Marc and Kris in Boulder and felt inspired to give them a season on GreenPill.
That meetup catalyzed the GreenPill mini-series on anti-fragile network states.
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Antifragility As The Core Goal
Anti-fragile network states aim to grow stronger when exposed to stress rather than collapse under it.
They combine decentralization, regeneration, and resilient design to survive and thrive amid systemic shocks.
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New @greenpillnet pod out today! π Kicking off a brand new Green Pill mini-series on Mondays hosted by VDAO (Marc Ziade & Kris Miller) β exploring how we can design antifragile network states that thrive through stress, decentralize sovereignty, and build regenerative communities.
For Episode 1, Kevin Owocki joins them to introduce the season's theme β bridging crypto coordination and permaculture resilience β and discuss how antifragility offers a blueprint for building local, autonomous systems that survive disruption and grow stronger under pressure.
This season features guests like Joseph Lubin, Simon Brown, and Rob Avis, diving into real-world experiments in energy, food, governance, and community sovereignty. Subscribe so you don't miss any of the conversations!
00:00 β Welcome to a new Greenpill mini-series hosted by VDAO 00:40 β Introducing Marc Rydon & Kris Miller: bridging crypto and permaculture 01:20 β What is VDAO and how it connects digital and physical sovereignty 02:10 β Defining the Antifragile Network State concept 03:00 β From regenerative to antifragile: systems that get stronger under stress 04:10 β Why centralized systems create fragility β and how to move beyond them 05:00 β Building resilient communities through autonomy and self-sufficiency 06:10 β Examples: local food production as a form of antifragility 07:00 β Resilience as the foundation for thriving through disruption 07:50 β Why antifragility is the right response to our era of accelerating change 08:30 β The vision for this new Greenpill season 09:00 β Season roadmap: from theory to practical examples 09:40 β Episode preview: Joseph Lubin on history, supercycles, and resilience 10:30 β Future episodes: real-world applications with Rob Avis and Simon Brown 11:00 β Exploring how crypto enables local and global sovereignty 11:50 β Network states beyond crypto: lessons from alternative nation movements 12:30 β How to combine localism and global coordination through Web3 tools 13:00 β What to expect from the VDAO mini-series 13:40 β Hosts' final thoughts: making antifragility tangible for everyone 14:00 β Kevin passes the mic: new voices, same Greenpill spirit 14:30 β Closing: building communities that thrive in chaos
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