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Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted

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Jul 2, 2025 • 35min

E24 - A Deep Dive into Harvey's Rapid Ascent with Tara Waters, TLW Consulting

Tara Waters, founder of TLW Consulting and former Chief Digital Officer at Ashurst, shares her insights on the rise of Harvey in legal AI. She reflects on the journey of adopting AI tools within global firms and how skepticism has shifted to practical use. Tara emphasizes the need for law firms to rethink their business models and workflows instead of merely selecting new tools. The discussion highlights the balance between excitement for innovation and the challenges of integrating AI into legal practices.
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Jun 10, 2025 • 33min

E23 - Investment Hype vs. Reality in Legal AI, Eli Amsellem, Ridge Ventures

Eli Amsellem, an investor at Ridge Ventures specializing in legal AI, joins to dissect the investment landscape in this field. He addresses the stark contrast between the hype around big valuations and the reality of customer adoption. Eli shares firsthand insights from engaging with legal professionals and hosting gatherings for GCs. The discussion includes the future of legal AI, weighing horizontal assistants against vertical automation, with a spotlight on companies like Harvey and Legorm. A nuanced look at innovation, challenges, and opportunities in legal tech unfolds.
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May 7, 2025 • 50min

E22 - Is AI For Contract Review Exciting? Preston Clark and Electra Japonas from LawInsider and oneNDA

In this episode, Zach delves into the evolution and impact of AI on contract management with Preston Clark and Electra Japonas.   In this episode: AI and Contracts: A Boring Use Case The Adoption Curve of AI in Legal  The Story of Law Insider  The Birth of One NDA  The Future of AI and Contracting  Legacy Product Overview  AI Capabilities and New SKU  User Growth and Market Excitement  Product Distribution and Democratization  Customer Focus and Data Utilization  CLM Market Insights and Future  Learn More: Electra - https://www.onenda.org/about Preston - https://www.lawinsider.com/resources/contributors/preston-clark Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/   Follow Along: Electra - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/electra-japonas Preston - https://www.linkedin.com/in/prestonjclark Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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Apr 24, 2025 • 30min

E21 - ChatGPT vs. Legaltech -- Who Will Win? Lawyer & Technologist Carolyn Elefant

This episode of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted features a conversation with lawyer and technologist Carolyn Elefant about whether legal specific tools and legacy software will be able to keep up with general applications like ChatGPT.   In this episode:  The Rapid Evolution of AI in Law The Future of AI in Legal Practice Exploring AI Tools for Lawyers Legal Research and AI Integration The Impact of AI on Legal Research The Future of Legaltech and AI   Learn More: Carolyn - https://lawofficesofcarolynelefant.com/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/   Follow Along: Carolyn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolynelefant/ Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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Mar 20, 2025 • 52min

E20 - From Legacy ML To Generative AI: Serial Legaltech Entrepreneur Charlie Connor

In this episode, Zach and Charlie delve into the rapid advancements in AI, particularly in the legal tech sector. The discussion transitions to the increasing caliber of entrepreneurs in legal tech and the acceleration of innovation in the field. They reflect on the evolution of legal AI from 2015 to 2023, noting the shift from mere ideas to full-blown products. The conversation also explores the potential for AI to reshape traditional legal processes, improve efficiency, and alter the way legal professionals approach their work, concluding with an optimistic outlook on the future of legal tech.   In this episode: The Rise of Legal Tech Entrepreneurs  AI's Impact on Legal Tech  Challenges and Opportunities in AI Adoption  The Evolution of Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM) Applying Machine Learning in Legal Tech  Generative AI vs. Automation  AI as a Legal Assistant  Training Lawyers with AI  AI in eDiscovery  The Future of Legal Tech Learn More: Charlie - https://gravitystack.com/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/   Follow Along: Charlie - https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlieconnor Gravity Stack -  https://www.linkedin.com/company/gravity-stack-law-llc Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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Mar 18, 2025 • 33min

E19 - Leya Just Rebranded As Legora: Chris Williams, Head of Strategic Partnerships and Community at Legora

In this episode, Zach speaks with Legora's head of strategic partnerships and community, Chris Williams, about the rebranding journey and the strategic role of Legora in the AI-driven legal tech landscape. The discussion covers the responsibilities of his role, the transition from selling no-code, low-code platforms to generative AI, and the significant shift in how AI is transforming legal practices. The episode also explores differences between Legora and other AI tools like Harvey, the challenges and opportunities in the market, and the future direction for legal professionals using AI. Tune in to learn about Legora's mission to build the world's first truly collaborative AI for lawyers, enhancing strategic business development while reducing non-billable work.    Discover: The Role and Responsibilities at Legora Transition from Selling Traditional Tech to AI  The Impact of Generative AI in Legal Tech Rebranding from Leya to Legora  Collaborative AI for Lawyers  Adoption of AI in Law Firms and In-House Teams  Comparing Legora and Harvey  The Future of Legal Work with AI  Connecting with Legora at Legal Week  Career Opportunities at Legora Learn More: Chris - Legora.com Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/   Follow Along: Chris - linkedin.com/in/chriswiiiiams/ Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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Mar 10, 2025 • 35min

E18 - Why You Should Come to ILTA EVOLVE This April with Ogletree’s Josh Smith and Tanenbaum Keale’s Ken Jones

Zach, Ken and Josh talk about the upcoming three day conference in Myrtle Beach focusing on AI, Cybersecurity and Data Governance. Attendees will have opportunities to interact with cutting-edge AI companies and products.The event features specific presentations, including those by startup community members, covering practical AI applications in fields like legal finance, pricing, collections, and timekeeping. Register - https://www.iltanet.org/live-events/evolve#speak   Follow Along: Josh Smith https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuadsmithcissp/ Ken Jones https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennethejones/ Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz   Learn More: https://www.legallydisrupted.com/  
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Feb 27, 2025 • 26min

E17 - How AI Has Tech Companies Pivoting with Eleanor Lightbody, CEO of Luminance

In this episode, Zach interviews Eleanor Lightbody, the CEO of Luminance, about her journey from working at Darktrace to leading Luminance, a legal tech company. Eleanor shares insights from her four years as CEO, highlighting the transformative impact of AI in the legal tech space. They discuss Luminance's growth strategy, the development of their contract lifecycle management tool, and the shift from M&A-specific uses to a broader, more inclusive approach. Eleanor also delves into how generative AI is changing user expectations and behaviors, and emphasizes the importance of balancing current customer needs with future innovations through a specialized 'blue sky thinking' team. Follow Luminance's developments on LinkedIn, their website, and at key industry conferences like Legal Week.  Eleanor's Background Journey at Darktrace  Transition to Luminance  Growth and Strategy at Luminance  Evolution of Luminance's Focus  Impact of Generative AI  Future Vision and Blue Sky Thinking  Learn More: Eleanor - https://www.luminance.com/team.html Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/   Follow Along: Eleanor - https://www.linkedin.com/in/eleanor-lightbody-69a6b784/ Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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Feb 13, 2025 • 42min

E16 - How Biglaw Can and Should Partner with Early Stage Startups, with Ilona Logvinova and Evan Shenkman

In this engaging conversation, Ilona and Evan discuss their roles and experiences in leading innovation within their respective law firms, Cleary Gottlieb and Fisher Phillips. Ilona, the Director of Practice Innovation at Cleary, shares her journey from McKinsey to leading a transformation journey at Cleary. Evan, the Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Fisher Phillips, talks about his shift from labor and employment law into knowledge management and legal technology. The discussion covers their strategies for partnering with early-stage companies, the impact of generative AI on the legal industry, the importance of being thought leaders, and the challenges and opportunities of incorporating AI into legal practices. They also delve into the long-term benefits of working with startups, AI governance, and the future trajectory of AI in redefining the value proposition of the legal profession.    Topics discussed: IIona's Journey and Role at Cleary Evan's Career Path and Role at Fisher Phillips  The Impact of Generative AI on Legal Tech  Pre-Generative AI Adoption Strategies  Evaluating Startups and Early Partnerships  Risk Management and AI Governance  Learn More: Ilona - https://www.pli.edu/faculty/ilona-logvinova-i2002979 Evan - https://www.fisherphillips.com/en/people/evan-shenkman.html Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/   Follow Along: Ilona - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilonalogvinova Evan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evan-shenkman-5445123 Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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Jan 22, 2025 • 49min

E15 - Could “AI For Lawyers” Catch on Faster with In-House Attorneys? Katya Fisher, CEO and Founder of Aracor

Katya Fisher introduces her journey from a practicing attorney to a tech entrepreneur. She shares her experience of building a successful law practice during the Great Recession and how she acquired a unique set of legal skills. Katya talks about the inefficiencies in the legal world that led her to build Aracor.ai, a legal tech product tailored for in-house counsel of investment firms such as venture capital funds, private equity groups, and family offices.   Learn More: Aracor - https://www.aracor.ai/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/   Follow Along: Katya - https://www.linkedin.com/in/katyafisher/ Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz  

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