

Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted
Zach Abramowitz
My name is Zach Abramowitz and I am Legally Disrupted. This podcast covers the trends disrupting the legal profession.
Once a mild mannered practicing attorney, I now am an entrepreneur and investor in disruptive legal startups. My company, Killer Whale Strategies, helps law firms, legal departments, and anyone else capitalize on the wave of disruption sweeping over the legal industry. Join me as I spotlight key players, significant trends, and innovative companies who are shaking up an age old profession.
Once a mild mannered practicing attorney, I now am an entrepreneur and investor in disruptive legal startups. My company, Killer Whale Strategies, helps law firms, legal departments, and anyone else capitalize on the wave of disruption sweeping over the legal industry. Join me as I spotlight key players, significant trends, and innovative companies who are shaking up an age old profession.
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Aug 19, 2025 • 37min
E27 - Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure: Big Deals and AI Revolution
In this episode of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz introduces a new recurring segment called 'Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure' with Richard Tromans from Artificial Lawyer. They discuss the rapid evolution in the legal tech sphere, particularly focusing on big deals and announcements from legal AI companies like Harvey and Legora. The duo debates the impact of generative AI productivity platforms on the legal market, the notion of a 'land grab' as firms race to adopt AI, and the potential for AI to become universally adopted in legal workflows. They also touch on the pricing dynamics of legal tech and the challenges faced by legacy companies in incorporating AI.
In this episode:
Summer Surge in Legal AI Deals
Generative AI Platforms for Lawyers
Market Share and Productivity Tools
Global Legal Market and Pricing Strategies
Emerging Competitors and Market Dynamics
The Battle for Legal AI Dominance
The Future of Legal Tech Giants: Mergers and Acquisitions
The Role of Investors in Legal Tech
The Importance of Specialization in Legal Tech
The Future of AI in Legal Tech: Assistants vs. Automators
Learn More:
Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/
Richard - tromansconsulting.com, artificiallawyer.com
Follow Along:
Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
Richard - linkedin.com/in/artificiallawyer, https://x.com/ArtificialLawya

Aug 15, 2025 • 39min
E26 - Exploring Legal Tech Investments in the Post-ChatGPT World with Chris Fisher and Jonathan Levy
In episode 26 of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz brings us a live conversation from the Legal Innovators California Conference in San Francisco. The discussion features Chris Fisher of Myriad Ventures and Jonathan Levy of Y Combinator, two prominent investors in the legal tech space. They delve into the shifts in legal tech investments from the pre-ChatGPT era to the post-ChatGPT world, the impact of AI on legal services, and the emerging talent in the field. The investors also share insights on their investment strategies, the importance of domain expertise, and their vision for the future of legal tech.
In this episode:
Investing in Legal Tech: Pre and Post ChatGPT
The Talent Surge in Legal Tech
AI's Impact on Legal Practices
Future of AI in Legal: Opportunities and Challenges
AI in Legal Apprenticeship
AI as a Junior Associate
Investment Strategies in Legal Tech
Specialized Legal Tech Solutions
VC Model and AI Startups
Evaluating Legal Tech Startups
Productizing Legal Services
Learn More:
Chris - https://www.myriadventures.com/profile/chris-fisher
Jonathan - https://www.ycombinator.com/people
Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/
Follow Along:
Chris - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-fisher-111a9025
Jonathan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-levy-b98986b3
Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz

Aug 9, 2025 • 48min
E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan
E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan
In episode 25 of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz sits down with David Wong, Chief Product Officer at Thomson Reuters and Ragunath (Raghu) Ramanathan, President of Legal Professionals and Government at Thomson Reuters, to discuss the 2025 Future of Professionals Report. The conversation explores AI's increasing adoption and its impact on the legal industry.
In this episode:
Discussing the Future of Professionals Report
AI Adoption and Productivity Insights
Comparing In-House Legal Departments and Law Firms
AI Strategy and Leadership in Law Firms
Understanding the ROI in Law Firms
Time Savings and Efficiency Gains
Quality Improvements and Creative Benefits
Adoption Strategies in Small vs. Large Firms
Thomson Reuters' AI Strategy and Market Position
Domain-Specific AI vs. General AI
References:
2025 Future of Professionals Report - https://www.thomsonreuters.com/content/dam/ewp-m/documents/thomsonreuters/en/pdf/reports/future-of-professionals-report-2025.pdf
Learn More:
David - https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en/about-us/executive-team
Raghu - https://www.trust.org/people/ragunath-ramanathan/
Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/
Follow Along:
David - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/dfwong
Raghu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raghunathr
Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz

Jul 2, 2025 • 35min
E24 - A Deep Dive into Harvey's Rapid Ascent with Tara Waters, TLW Consulting
Tara Waters, founder of TLW Consulting and former Chief Digital Officer at Ashurst, shares her insights on the rise of Harvey in legal AI. She reflects on the journey of adopting AI tools within global firms and how skepticism has shifted to practical use. Tara emphasizes the need for law firms to rethink their business models and workflows instead of merely selecting new tools. The discussion highlights the balance between excitement for innovation and the challenges of integrating AI into legal practices.

Jun 10, 2025 • 33min
E23 - Investment Hype vs. Reality in Legal AI, Eli Amsellem, Ridge Ventures
Eli Amsellem, an investor at Ridge Ventures specializing in legal AI, joins to dissect the investment landscape in this field. He addresses the stark contrast between the hype around big valuations and the reality of customer adoption. Eli shares firsthand insights from engaging with legal professionals and hosting gatherings for GCs. The discussion includes the future of legal AI, weighing horizontal assistants against vertical automation, with a spotlight on companies like Harvey and Legorm. A nuanced look at innovation, challenges, and opportunities in legal tech unfolds.

May 7, 2025 • 50min
E22 - Is AI For Contract Review Exciting? Preston Clark and Electra Japonas from LawInsider and oneNDA
In this episode, Zach delves into the evolution and impact of AI on contract management with Preston Clark and Electra Japonas.
In this episode:
AI and Contracts: A Boring Use Case
The Adoption Curve of AI in Legal
The Story of Law Insider
The Birth of One NDA
The Future of AI and Contracting
Legacy Product Overview
AI Capabilities and New SKU
User Growth and Market Excitement
Product Distribution and Democratization
Customer Focus and Data Utilization
CLM Market Insights and Future
Learn More:
Electra - https://www.onenda.org/about
Preston - https://www.lawinsider.com/resources/contributors/preston-clark
Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/
Follow Along:
Electra - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/electra-japonas
Preston - https://www.linkedin.com/in/prestonjclark
Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz

Apr 24, 2025 • 30min
E21 - ChatGPT vs. Legaltech -- Who Will Win? Lawyer & Technologist Carolyn Elefant
This episode of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted features a conversation with lawyer and technologist Carolyn Elefant about whether legal specific tools and legacy software will be able to keep up with general applications like ChatGPT.
In this episode:
The Rapid Evolution of AI in Law
The Future of AI in Legal Practice
Exploring AI Tools for Lawyers
Legal Research and AI Integration
The Impact of AI on Legal Research
The Future of Legaltech and AI
Learn More:
Carolyn - https://lawofficesofcarolynelefant.com/
Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/
Follow Along:
Carolyn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolynelefant/
Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz

Mar 20, 2025 • 52min
E20 - From Legacy ML To Generative AI: Serial Legaltech Entrepreneur Charlie Connor
In this episode, Zach and Charlie delve into the rapid advancements in AI, particularly in the legal tech sector. The discussion transitions to the increasing caliber of entrepreneurs in legal tech and the acceleration of innovation in the field. They reflect on the evolution of legal AI from 2015 to 2023, noting the shift from mere ideas to full-blown products. The conversation also explores the potential for AI to reshape traditional legal processes, improve efficiency, and alter the way legal professionals approach their work, concluding with an optimistic outlook on the future of legal tech.
In this episode:
The Rise of Legal Tech Entrepreneurs
AI's Impact on Legal Tech
Challenges and Opportunities in AI Adoption
The Evolution of Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM)
Applying Machine Learning in Legal Tech
Generative AI vs. Automation
AI as a Legal Assistant
Training Lawyers with AI
AI in eDiscovery
The Future of Legal Tech
Learn More:
Charlie - https://gravitystack.com/
Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/
Follow Along:
Charlie - https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlieconnor
Gravity Stack - https://www.linkedin.com/company/gravity-stack-law-llc
Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz

Mar 18, 2025 • 33min
E19 - Leya Just Rebranded As Legora: Chris Williams, Head of Strategic Partnerships and Community at Legora
In this episode, Zach speaks with Legora's head of strategic partnerships and community, Chris Williams, about the rebranding journey and the strategic role of Legora in the AI-driven legal tech landscape. The discussion covers the responsibilities of his role, the transition from selling no-code, low-code platforms to generative AI, and the significant shift in how AI is transforming legal practices. The episode also explores differences between Legora and other AI tools like Harvey, the challenges and opportunities in the market, and the future direction for legal professionals using AI. Tune in to learn about Legora's mission to build the world's first truly collaborative AI for lawyers, enhancing strategic business development while reducing non-billable work.
Discover:
The Role and Responsibilities at Legora
Transition from Selling Traditional Tech to AI
The Impact of Generative AI in Legal Tech
Rebranding from Leya to Legora
Collaborative AI for Lawyers
Adoption of AI in Law Firms and In-House Teams
Comparing Legora and Harvey
The Future of Legal Work with AI
Connecting with Legora at Legal Week
Career Opportunities at Legora
Learn More:
Chris - Legora.com
Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/
Follow Along:
Chris - linkedin.com/in/chriswiiiiams/
Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz

Mar 10, 2025 • 35min
E18 - Why You Should Come to ILTA EVOLVE This April with Ogletree’s Josh Smith and Tanenbaum Keale’s Ken Jones
Zach, Ken and Josh talk about the upcoming three day conference in Myrtle Beach focusing on AI, Cybersecurity and Data Governance. Attendees will have opportunities to interact with cutting-edge AI companies and products.The event features specific presentations, including those by startup community members, covering practical AI applications in fields like legal finance, pricing, collections, and timekeeping.
Register - https://www.iltanet.org/live-events/evolve#speak
Follow Along:
Josh Smith https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuadsmithcissp/
Ken Jones https://www.linkedin.com/in/kennethejones/
Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
Learn More:
https://www.legallydisrupted.com/