Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted

Zach Abramowitz
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Oct 16, 2025 • 33min

E30 - Is AI Disrupting ALSPs? Axiom CSO Catherine Kemnitz

In Episode 30 of 'Legally Disrupted,' Zach engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Catherine Kemnitz, Axiom's Chief Strategy Officer. They address a LinkedIn debate on how AI will disrupt both Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM) and Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs). Katherine offers insights from her extensive legal industry experience, including her tenure at Axiom and Thomson Reuters, highlighting major transactions and strategic pivots influenced by technological advancements.    In this episode: Catherine Kemnitz's Career Journey  Axiom's Strategic Moves and Innovations  The Impact of AI on Legal Services  Generative AI and Legal Tech Evolution AI Adoption in Legal Departments vs. Law Firms  Axiom's Approach to AI and Future Outlook  Learn More: Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Catherine - https://www.axiomlaw.com/about-us/our-team   Follow Along: Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz Catherine - https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinekemnitz
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Oct 8, 2025 • 49min

E29 - Why Firms Are Buying Niche AI, Centari Founder Kevin Walker

Zach sits down with Centari founder Kevin Walker to unpack the opportunities and obstacles of selling AI to law firms when it isn’t a generalized assistant like ChatGPT or Harvey. Kevin makes the case for why tackling highly specialized problems, such as Deal Intelligence, delivers unique, lasting value to firms.   In this episode: Understanding Centari's Vision  Unique Market Insights and Adoption Challenges and Opportunities in Legal Tech  Building Trust with Law Firms  Future of Legal Practices Fried Frank Partnership  Navigating Market Noise First Principles and Differentiation AI Adoption in Law Firms Reddit Thread Controversy  Building a Strong Company Culture   Learn More: Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Kevin - https://www.centari.com/about-us   Follow Along: Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz Kevn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpwalker1, https://x.com/_kevinwalker?lang=en
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Sep 14, 2025 • 44min

E28 - Zach and Richard's Excellent Legal AI Adventure: Inside Eudia's Groundbreaking AI-First Law Firm

Richard Tromans, founder of Artificial Lawyer and expert in legal tech, joins Zach to explore the revolutionary landscape of AI in legal services. They dive into the implications of non-lawyer ownership, the potential of AI in transactional work, and the evolving business models of AI-first firms. Richard elaborates on how these new entities might disrupt traditional firms and the regulatory challenges surrounding them. The discussion also touches on the practical ROI of legal tech and what this shift means for future market dynamics.
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Aug 19, 2025 • 37min

E27 - Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure: Big Deals and AI Revolution

In this episode of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz introduces a new recurring segment called 'Zach and Richard's Legal AI Adventure' with Richard Tromans from Artificial Lawyer. They discuss the rapid evolution in the legal tech sphere, particularly focusing on big deals and announcements from legal AI companies like Harvey and Legora. The duo debates the impact of generative AI productivity platforms on the legal market, the notion of a 'land grab' as firms race to adopt AI, and the potential for AI to become universally adopted in legal workflows. They also touch on the pricing dynamics of legal tech and the challenges faced by legacy companies in incorporating AI.   In this episode: Summer Surge in Legal AI Deals  Generative AI Platforms for Lawyers Market Share and Productivity Tools Global Legal Market and Pricing Strategies Emerging Competitors and Market Dynamics  The Battle for Legal AI Dominance The Future of Legal Tech Giants: Mergers and Acquisitions  The Role of Investors in Legal Tech  The Importance of Specialization in Legal Tech  The Future of AI in Legal Tech: Assistants vs. Automators Learn More: Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/ Richard - tromansconsulting.com, artificiallawyer.com   Follow Along: Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz Richard - linkedin.com/in/artificiallawyer, https://x.com/ArtificialLawya
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Aug 15, 2025 • 39min

E26 - Exploring Legal Tech Investments in the Post-ChatGPT World with Chris Fisher and Jonathan Levy

In episode 26 of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz brings us a live conversation from the Legal Innovators California Conference in San Francisco. The discussion features Chris Fisher of Myriad Ventures and Jonathan Levy of Y Combinator, two prominent investors in the legal tech space. They delve into the shifts in legal tech investments from the pre-ChatGPT era to the post-ChatGPT world, the impact of AI on legal services, and the emerging talent in the field. The investors also share insights on their investment strategies, the importance of domain expertise, and their vision for the future of legal tech.    In this episode: Investing in Legal Tech: Pre and Post ChatGPT The Talent Surge in Legal Tech AI's Impact on Legal Practices  Future of AI in Legal: Opportunities and Challenges  AI in Legal Apprenticeship AI as a Junior Associate Investment Strategies in Legal Tech   Specialized Legal Tech Solutions   VC Model and AI Startups   Evaluating Legal Tech Startups  Productizing Legal Services Learn More: Chris - https://www.myriadventures.com/profile/chris-fisher Jonathan - https://www.ycombinator.com/people Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/   Follow Along: Chris - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-fisher-111a9025 Jonathan - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-levy-b98986b3 Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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Aug 9, 2025 • 48min

E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan

E25 - Are Lawyers Adopting AI? With David Wong and Raghu Ramanathan   In episode 25 of 'Legally Disrupted,' host Zach Abramowitz sits down with David Wong, Chief Product Officer at Thomson Reuters and Ragunath (Raghu) Ramanathan, President of Legal Professionals and Government at Thomson Reuters, to discuss the 2025 Future of Professionals Report. The conversation explores AI's increasing adoption and its impact on the legal industry.    In this episode: Discussing the Future of Professionals Report AI Adoption and Productivity Insights  Comparing In-House Legal Departments and Law Firms  AI Strategy and Leadership in Law Firms   Understanding the ROI in Law Firms   Time Savings and Efficiency Gains  Quality Improvements and Creative Benefits   Adoption Strategies in Small vs. Large Firms  Thomson Reuters' AI Strategy and Market Position Domain-Specific AI vs. General AI  References: 2025 Future of Professionals Report - https://www.thomsonreuters.com/content/dam/ewp-m/documents/thomsonreuters/en/pdf/reports/future-of-professionals-report-2025.pdf   Learn More: David - https://www.thomsonreuters.com/en/about-us/executive-team Raghu - https://www.trust.org/people/ragunath-ramanathan/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/   Follow Along: David - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/dfwong Raghu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raghunathr Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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Jul 2, 2025 • 35min

E24 - A Deep Dive into Harvey's Rapid Ascent with Tara Waters, TLW Consulting

Tara Waters, founder of TLW Consulting and former Chief Digital Officer at Ashurst, shares her insights on the rise of Harvey in legal AI. She reflects on the journey of adopting AI tools within global firms and how skepticism has shifted to practical use. Tara emphasizes the need for law firms to rethink their business models and workflows instead of merely selecting new tools. The discussion highlights the balance between excitement for innovation and the challenges of integrating AI into legal practices.
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Jun 10, 2025 • 33min

E23 - Investment Hype vs. Reality in Legal AI, Eli Amsellem, Ridge Ventures

Eli Amsellem, an investor at Ridge Ventures specializing in legal AI, joins to dissect the investment landscape in this field. He addresses the stark contrast between the hype around big valuations and the reality of customer adoption. Eli shares firsthand insights from engaging with legal professionals and hosting gatherings for GCs. The discussion includes the future of legal AI, weighing horizontal assistants against vertical automation, with a spotlight on companies like Harvey and Legorm. A nuanced look at innovation, challenges, and opportunities in legal tech unfolds.
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May 7, 2025 • 50min

E22 - Is AI For Contract Review Exciting? Preston Clark and Electra Japonas from LawInsider and oneNDA

In this episode, Zach delves into the evolution and impact of AI on contract management with Preston Clark and Electra Japonas.   In this episode: AI and Contracts: A Boring Use Case The Adoption Curve of AI in Legal  The Story of Law Insider  The Birth of One NDA  The Future of AI and Contracting  Legacy Product Overview  AI Capabilities and New SKU  User Growth and Market Excitement  Product Distribution and Democratization  Customer Focus and Data Utilization  CLM Market Insights and Future  Learn More: Electra - https://www.onenda.org/about Preston - https://www.lawinsider.com/resources/contributors/preston-clark Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/   Follow Along: Electra - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/electra-japonas Preston - https://www.linkedin.com/in/prestonjclark Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz
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Apr 24, 2025 • 30min

E21 - ChatGPT vs. Legaltech -- Who Will Win? Lawyer & Technologist Carolyn Elefant

This episode of Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted features a conversation with lawyer and technologist Carolyn Elefant about whether legal specific tools and legacy software will be able to keep up with general applications like ChatGPT.   In this episode:  The Rapid Evolution of AI in Law The Future of AI in Legal Practice Exploring AI Tools for Lawyers Legal Research and AI Integration The Impact of AI on Legal Research The Future of Legaltech and AI   Learn More: Carolyn - https://lawofficesofcarolynelefant.com/ Zach - https://www.legallydisrupted.com/   Follow Along: Carolyn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolynelefant/ Zach - linkedin.com/in/zachabramowitz

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