Zach Abramowitz is Legally Disrupted E28 - Zach and Richard's Excellent Legal AI Adventure: Inside Eudia's Groundbreaking AI-First Law Firm
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Sep 14, 2025 
Richard Tromans, founder of Artificial Lawyer and expert in legal tech, joins Zach to explore the revolutionary landscape of AI in legal services. They dive into the implications of non-lawyer ownership, the potential of AI in transactional work, and the evolving business models of AI-first firms. Richard elaborates on how these new entities might disrupt traditional firms and the regulatory challenges surrounding them. The discussion also touches on the practical ROI of legal tech and what this shift means for future market dynamics.
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AI Company Buying An ALSP Changes The Playbook
- Udia evolved from supplying AI skills to building an ALSP and an Arizona law firm to handle regulated work.
- Combining AI with an owned ALSP lets a legal tech company offer end-to-end transactional services.
LawGeeks' Early AI-to-LawFirm Journey
- LawGeeks initially believed AI alone would solve contract review but had to build human teams to finish work.
- They opened a law-firm entity in a permissive US state to handle regulated activities when AI wasn't sufficient.
Bundle Humans With AI Or Expect Client Reliance
- Do not assume AI products alone will meet enterprise legal needs; plan to provide human support or build client teams.
- Offer integrated services rather than abandoning clients after software sale.