

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Episodes
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Jun 28, 2022 • 2h 3min
Limitations w/ Jenny Bacon
On this week’s episode, Liza and Kara break down the classic SVU episode, “Limitations” (Season 1, Episode 14), cover the background of both the Kathleen Ham case and the crimes of the “Balcony Rapist”, and have a chat with the lovely, Jenny Bacon.SOURCES:NBC NewsNY TimesGotham GazetteGlobal NewsThe Globe and MailBuffalo News - 1Buffalo News - 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: “Should Statutes of Limitations for Rape Be Abolished?” - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/19/magazine/should-statutes-of-limitations-for-rape-be-abolished.html Next week’s episode will be “Criminal Stories” (Season 15, Episode 18). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 21, 2022 • 2h 8min
Starved w/ Veronica Cartwright
In this episode, acclaimed actress Veronica Cartwright, known for her iconic roles in 'The Birds' and 'Alien,' shares her journey through the entertainment industry. The discussion touches on her early acting experiences alongside family, including memorable encounters with legendary filmmakers. They also explore the emotional complexities of end-of-life decisions and the controversial Terri Schiavo case, highlighting the ethical dilemmas families face. Cartwright's anecdotes add a nostalgic touch, revealing the unpredictable nature of Hollywood.

Jun 14, 2022 • 1h 54min
Legacy w/ Yancey Arias
Today, Liza and Kara go way back to discuss the early SVU episode, “Legacy” (Season 2, Episode 4), break down the murder of Elisa Izquierdo, and have a conversation with the very delightful actor, Yancey Arias.SOURCES:NewsweekNY Times - 1NY Times - 2NY Times - 3NY Times - 4NY Times - 5NY Times - 6NY Times - 7NY Times - 8NY Times - 9NY Times - 10WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Prevent Child Abuse America - https://preventchildabuse.org/ Next week’s episode will be “Starved” (Season 7, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jun 7, 2022 • 1h 58min
Stolen w/ Celia Weston
Kara and Liza recap the classic SVU episode, “Stolen” (Season 3, Episode 3), cover the crimes of Jon Robinson, and sit down to have a chat with legendary actress, Celia Weston.SOURCES:NY Times - 1NY Times - 2NY Times - 3Creative Family ConnectionsABC News HeavyWashington PostThe CinemaholicThat’s Life! WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: “This Is What Nobody Tells You About Adoption” by Andrea Ross - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/adoption-trauma-savior-myth_n_608598b9e4b05af50db72167 Next week’s episode will be “Legacy” (Season 2, Episode 4). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 31, 2022 • 2h 12min
Loss w/ Stephanie March
Liza and Kara dissect the classic SVU episode, “Loss” (Season 5, Episode 4), cover the crimes of Pablo Escobar and the Medellin cartel, and have an ex parte discussion with Alex Cabot herself, the wonderful Stephanie March.SOURCES:Wikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2PropublicaNY Times - 1NY Times - 2NBC NewsBiographyAll That’s InterestingVanity Fair - 1Vanity Fair - 2 WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Washington Office on Latin America - wola.org Next week’s episode will be “Stolen” (Season 3, Episode 3). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 24, 2022 • 2h 34min
The Burden of Our Choices w/ Jamie Gray Hyder & Jodi Hicks
In this very timely episode, Kara and Liza go over SVU’s “The Burden of Our Choices” (Season 21, Episode 4), discuss the fate of Roe v. Wade with the president of Planned Parenthood’s CA chapter, Jodi Hicks, and interview detective Kat Tamin, Jamie Gray Hyder. SOURCES:Britannica WikipediaHistory WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Planned Parenthood CA - SayAbortionCalifornia.com Next week’s episode will be “Loss” (Season 5, Episode 4). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 17, 2022 • 2h 2min
Military Justices w/ Laura Benanti
Today Liza and Kara get into the SVU episode, “Military Justice” (Season 15, Episode 8), break down systemic rape coverups in the military (specifically the case of Rebecca Blumer), and chat with Broadway and TV icon, Laura Benanti. SOURCES:Rolling StoneWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Protect Our Defenders - https://www.protectourdefenders.com/ Next week’s episode will be “The Burden of Our Choices” (Season 21, Episode 4). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 10, 2022 • 2h 15min
Making a Rapist w/ Delaney Williams
This week, Kara and Liza dive into SVU’s “Making a Rapist” (Season 18, Episode 2), discuss the controversial case of Steven Avery, and sit down with SVU’s contentious defense attorney (but IRL sweetheart), Delaney Williams.SOURCES:Wikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2NY TimesKathleenTZellner.comHeavyLacrosse TribuneABC NewsMilwaukee MagPost Crescent - 1Post Crescent - 2Innocence ProjectWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Center on Wrongful Convictions of Youth - https://www.law.northwestern.edu/legalclinic/wrongfulconvictionsyouth/making-a-murderer/ Next week’s episode will be “Military Justice” (Season 15, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

May 3, 2022 • 2h 7min
Forty-One Witnesses w/ J. Mallory McCree
On today’s episode, Liza and Kara discuss the SVU episode, “Forty-One Witnesses” (Season 17, Episode 13), cover the murder of Kitty Genovese, and have a conversation with the charming, J. Mallory McCree.SOURCES:NY Times - 1NY Times - 2NY Times - 3Wikipedia“The Wintess” (documentary)Psychology Today WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Witness (2015) - Link to watchNext week’s episode will be “Making a Rapist” (Season 18, Episode 2). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Apr 26, 2022 • 2h
Intoxicated w/ Cathy Moriarty
For this week, Kara and Liza go over SVU’s “Intoxicated” (Season 6, Episode 19), examine the murders of Vicki Robinson and Barbara Mullinex, and interview legendary actor, Cathy Moriarty.SOURCES:Tampa Bay Times - 1Tampa Bay Times - 2Tampa Bay Times - 3Tampa Bay Times - 4Tampa Bay Times - 5Tampa Bay Times - 6CBS NewsOxygenOC RegisterMy Crime LibraryForensic Files NowNews Channel 8 (NBC) WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ChildHelp - https://www.childhelp.org/ Next week’s episode will be “41 Witnesses” (Season 17, Episode 13). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.