

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast
Exactly Right and iHeartPodcasts
Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!
That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Oct 25, 2022 • 2h 3min
Paternity w/ Isabel Gillies
Episode 100! This week Kara and Liza recap “Paternity” (Season 9, Episode 9), discuss the tragic case of Christina Long, and speak to the one and only Isabel Gillies AKA Kathy Stabler!SOURCES:CBS NewsLA TimesFindLawThe News-TimesNY Times 1NY Times 2Westchester MagazineWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Online Dating and Dating App Safety Tips’https://www.rainn.org/articles/online-dating-and-dating-app-safety-tipsNext week’s episode will be “Bullseye” (Season 12, Episode 2). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 18, 2022 • 1h 39min
Alta Kockers w/ Michael Kostroff
Liza and Kara break down the seminal episode “Alta Kockers” (Season 20, Episode 10), unearth the story of the fabled Collyer brothers, and talk to the gregarious thespian and teacher Michael Kostroff (The Wire, Billions).SOURCES:Wikipedia - Murder of Angie ZapataGlaad.orgThe Denver PostWikipedia - JT LeRoyVanity FairWikipedia - Collyer brothersNew York Daily NewsAmusing PlanetAll That's InterestingNY TimesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Angie Zapata Murder: Violence Against Transgender People Resource Kithttps://www.glaad.org/resourcekits/angiezapataNext week’s episode will be “Paternity” (Season 9, Episode 9). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 11, 2022 • 1h 54min
Svengali w/ Shannon Woodward
Kara and Liza discuss “Svengali” (Season 9, Episode 6), explore the astonishing case of Veronica Compton and her love for “The Hillside Strangler,” and have a wonderful chat with the super talented Shannon Woodward (Westworld, Raising Hope).SOURCES:Buffalo NewsUnited Press InternationalAP News9News - DenverCriminal Minds WikiObserver-ReporterWikipedia - Kenneth BianchiA&EGrungeThe Seattle TimesWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Women Who Love Men Who Kill: 35 True Stories of Prison Passion, The 21st Century Edition, Updated with New Cases’ by Sheila Isenberghttps://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/women-who-love-men-who-kill-sheila-isenberg/1140178649Next week’s episode will be “Alta Kockers” (Season 20, Episode 10). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 4, 2022 • 2h 1min
Maternal Instincts w/ Zach McGowen
In this episode, Kara and Liza recap “Maternal Instincts” (Season 17, Episode 6), discuss the strange case of violinist Stefan Arzberger, and have a phenomenal chat with cool dad, Zach McGowan (Shameless, Black Sails).SOURCES:New York Times 1New York Times 2New York PostPeopleLimelight MagazineNewsdayWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘5 Strategies to Cope With Toxic Family Members’ by Abigail Brenner M.D.https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/in-flux/202204/5-strategies-cope-toxic-family-membersNext week’s episode will be “Svengali” (Season 9, Episode 6). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 27, 2022 • 1h 53min
Double Strands w/ Karen Tsen Lee
The ladies recap the infamous episode “Double Strands” (Season 13, Episode 4) and discuss the bizarre case of Darrin Fernandez, as well as the crimes of the "The East Coast Rapist." Plus, Kara and Liza sit down with an SVU regular, the wonderful Karen Tsen Lee.SOURCES:Mental FlossSouth Coast TodayWCVBNews 24Wikipedia - East Coast RapistWashington Post 1Washington Post 2Washington Post 3WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘One Twin Committed the Crime — but Which One? A New DNA Test Can Finger the Culprit’ by Carl Zimmerhttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/01/science/twins-dna-crime-paternity.htmlNext week’s episode will be “Maternal Instincts” (Season 17, Episode 6). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 20, 2022 • 2h
Plastic w/ Mark Feuerstein
Kara and Liza recount the episode “Plastic” (Season 20, Episode 11), explore the unsettling crimes of Grant Robicheaux and Cerissa Riley, and chop it up with the magnificent Mark Feuerstein (Royal Pains, Wet Hot American Summer: Ten Years Later).SOURCES:LA Times 1LA Times 2LA Times 3LA Times 4DeadlineCBS News 1CBS News 2Wikipedia - Grant RobicheauxBuzzfeedHeySoCalMyNewsLA.comWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Date Rape Drugs - Office on Women’s Healthhttps://www.womenshealth.gov/a-z-topics/date-rape-drugsNext week’s episode will be “Double Strands” (Season 13, Episode 4). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 13, 2022 • 2h 9min
Rhodium Nights w/ Brooke Smith
The ladies recap “Rhodium Nights” (Season 13, Episode 23), discuss the infamous Greg Kelly rape allegation, and have a phenomenal conversation with the iconic Brooke Smith (The Silence of the Lambs, Grey's Anatomy).SOURCES:NY TimesBuzzfeedWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘She Accused A TV Anchor Of Rape And Got Dragged Through The Tabloids’ by Jessica Testahttps://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jtes/she-accused-a-tv-anchor-of-rape-and-got-dragged-through-theNext week’s episode will be “Plastic” (Season 20, Episode 11). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 6, 2022 • 1h 55min
Countdown w/ Andrea Bowen
Kara and Liza discuss the riveting episode “Countdown” (Season 2, Episode 15), explore the horrific crimes of Scottish serial killer Robert Black, and have a conversation with the delightful Andrea Bowen (Desperate Housewives).SOURCES:Belfast TelegraphWikipedia - Robert Black (serial killer)The ChronicleEdinburgh NewsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Protecting Against Child Predators’ by Katherine Leehttps://www.verywellfamily.com/protecting-against-child-predators-620502#Next week’s episode will be “Rhodium Nights” (Season 13, Episode 23). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 30, 2022 • 2h 6min
Granting Immunity w/ Missi Pyle
Today, Liza and Kara go over “Granting Immunity” (Season 16, Episode 19), discuss the Rockdale County syphilis outbreak, analyze the history of anti-vaxxers, and have a conversation with the legendary Missi Pyle.SOURCES:Wikipedia 1Wikipedia 2NY Times 1NY Times 2NY Times 3Paley CenterWashington PostHistory of VaccinesCenters for Disease Control and PreventionBBCWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: ‘How Do We Approach Anti-Vaccination Attitudes?’ by Dr. Christopher A. Swinglehttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6140172/Next week’s episode will be “Countdown” (Season 2, Episode 15). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Aug 23, 2022 • 2h 7min
Criminal w/ Doug E. Doug
Kara and Liza follow the twists and turns of “Criminal” (Season 5, Episode 21), discuss the Kevin Tunell DUI case and a few other stories about college professors with criminal records. Plus, a can’t miss convo with the great Doug E. Doug (Cool Runnings).SOURCES:LA TimesWashington PostNY TimesNew York MagazineStar TribuneThe Chronicle of Higher EducationWBURABC 10 KXTV from Sacramento, CaliforniaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: The Fortune Society - “The Fortune Society’s mission is to support successful reentry from incarceration and promote alternatives to incarceration.”https://fortunesociety.org/Next week’s episode will be “Granting Immunity” (Season 16, Episode 19). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


