
Leaders in Living Rooms
Sean Morgan invites you into intimate, “living room” conversations with high-caliber leaders that few others have access to. When you gather in a living room, you have the opportunity to hear deeper glimpses into someone’s life. Join Sean and leaders such as Carey Nieuwhof, Andy Stanley, Pat Gelsinger, Dharius Daniels, Derwin Gray, Ken Costa, and Glenn Packiam as they discuss how to aim for health during the various transitions leadership inevitably brings.
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Dec 19, 2023 • 57min
LILR 096 | Boardroom Health and Succession with Flatirons Elders
The podcast discusses the importance of a healthy elder board in a church and the role it plays in succession planning. They emphasize the value of fostering healthy conflict and open communication within the boardroom. The speakers introduce the Flatirons Elders and highlight their impressive backgrounds. They stress the importance of forming health together, maintaining relational health, and aligning actions with mission and values. The chapter also discusses the significance of succession planning, seeking outside help, and the role of an objective third party in the process.

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Dec 5, 2023 • 38min
LILR 095 | Brady Boyd on the Importance of a Pastor’s Pace of Sabbath Rest
Brady Boyd, Senior Pastor of New Life Church, discusses the crucial importance of Sabbath rest for pastors. He highlights the emotional weight and trauma pastors carry and encourages healthy rhythms to sustain ministry. Other topics include coping with preaching pressures, recovery and recharging, the importance of a life-giving church, and promoting leadership development.

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Nov 21, 2023 • 42min
LILR 094 | Stephen Foster of St Aldates, Oxford on the Difference Between Stuck Church and Revival
Stephen Foster, leader of St Aldates Church in Oxford and Alpha advisor, shares his journey from law to ministry. He discusses the challenge of churches aging inwardly and emphasizes the need to attract younger generations while honoring older members. Stephen offers insights on engaging a pre-Christian context, advocating for intentional community building. He underscores the importance of revitalizing church leadership through prayer, passion, and fostering multi-generational culture, making the church exciting for all ages.

Nov 7, 2023 • 50min
LILR 093 | Archie Coates on Building Congregational Trust in Transition with Competency and Healthy Disruptions
“You can’t lead people or take them anywhere until they trust you.” Meet Archie Coates, Vicar of Holy Trinity Brompton. In a conversation about transitioning into a lead pastor role, Archie gives personal insights from his recent transition at HTB. He brings a healthy mix of humility and disruption to a seasoned church. Learn about the difference between loving a church you “birthed” versus a church you “adopted” in today’s episode. Archie’s perspective and wisdom will give you practical concepts to aid either side of pastoral transitions.Welcome to Episode 093 of the Leaders in Living Rooms Podcast with Sean Morgan. EPISODE LINKSPredictable Success, by Les McKeownTrust, by Dr. Henry Cloudsean@theascentleader.orgIf you’re a leader approaching a succession or transition. Or maybe you’re a few years in and beginning to see how complex transitions leadership is… go to The Art of Pastoral Succession and check out my brand new course in partnership with Carey Nieuwhof. Are you in Transition or have one on the horizon? Check out our 2023 cohorts and get connected with us at: https://theascentleader.org/cohorts/ WHO IS ARCHIE COATES?Archie Coates is the Vicar of Holy Trinity Brompton, prior to which he was the Vicar of St Peter’s Brighton for 13 years. He studied Theology at Oxford University and was Associate Vicar at HTB. Archie is married to Sam and they have four children.SPONSORS & PARTNERSThanks to our sponsor: Food For The Hungry. Combine your church's heart for the poor and Food for the Hungry’s global experience at fh.org/churches.

Oct 31, 2023 • 50min
LILR 092 | Nicky Gumbel on the 3 Things Every Church can Improve
“The only way to plant a church is through evangelism.” Meet Nicky Gumbel, pioneer of the Alpha course and former vicar of Holy Trinity Brompton (HTB) in London. Nicky’s enthusiasm for a better focus in church evangelism is life-giving and inspiring. He meets the challenges of today’s church with a sense of intentionality and strategy that will encourage you and motivate change.Welcome to Episode 092 of the Leaders in Living Rooms Podcast with Sean Morgan.EPISODE LINKSsean@theascentleader.orgIf you’re a leader approaching a succession or transition. Or maybe you’re a few years in and beginning to see how complex transitions leadership is… go to The Art of Pastoral Succession and checkout my brand new course in partnership with Carey Nieuwhof. Are you in Transition or have one on the horizon? Check out our 2023 cohorts and get connected with us at: https://theascentleader.org/cohorts/ WHO IS NICKY GUMBEL?Nicky Gumbel is the former vicar of Holy Trinity Brompton (HTB) in London. Together with his wife Pippa, they pioneered Alpha, an introduction to the Christian faith run by all the major Christian denominations in 169 countries. Nicky Gumbel has written several best-selling books including Questions of Life, The Jesus Lifestyle, Searching Issues and A Life Worth Living. He is the author of the free Bible reading app Bible in One Year. In December 2007, Nicky received an Honorary Doctorate for his contribution to church life from the University of Gloucester.SPONSORS & PARTNERSThanks to our sponsor: Food For The Hungry. Combine your church's heart for the poor and Food for the Hungry’s global experience at fh.org/churches.

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Oct 17, 2023 • 1h 4min
LILR 091 | N.T. Wright on Israel and Gaza, Romans 8, and Advice for Pastors Today
N.T. Wright, former Bishop of Durham and a leading theologian, shares profound insights on the Israel-Gaza conflict, emphasizing the need for humility, compassion, and lamentation in pastoral care. He discusses how scripture informs justice and love, urging Christians to engage actively in public affairs rather than simply awaiting salvation. Wright explores the vital role of suffering in faith, the church's call to community involvement, and the importance of reconciliation, offering a timely perspective for today's leaders.

Oct 3, 2023 • 50min
LILR 090 | Dave Stone on How To Be a Great Former Lead Pastor and Church Growth Lessons from CCV & Southeast
“It’s a narcissistic leader who passes the baton and then hopes that the church diminishes or fails.” Meet Dave Stone, former lead pastor at Southeast Christian Church. Sharing from personal experiences, Dave gives us insight into healthy leadership transitions, including how to be the biggest champion for your successor, how to carry an interim pastor role, and how to gauge the health of your leadership. Welcome to Episode 090 of the Leaders in Living Rooms Podcast with Sean Morgan. EPISODE LINKSEpisode 009 with Dave Stone from 2020Christ Church of the ValleySoutheast Christian Churchsean@theascentleader.orgIf you’re a leader approaching a succession or transition. Or maybe you’re a few years in and beginning to see how complex transitions leadership is… go to The Art of Pastoral Succession and checkout my brand new course in partnership with Carey Nieuwhof. Are you in Transition or have one on the horizon? Check out our 2023 cohorts and get connected with us at: https://theascentleader.org/cohorts/ WHO IS DAVE?For 30 years, Dave Stone preached at Southeast Christian Church in Louisville, Kentucky. During his 13 years as Senior Pastor the weekend attendance grew from 18,000 at one campus to 27,000 at seven campuses. He serves on Boards for Spire, Focus on the Family and the Rawlings Foundation and is on the Teaching Team for CCV in Phoenix, AZ. Dave has a heart for people and a passion for families. He and Beth have three children and ten grandchildren. When Dave speaks he has the unique ability to touch both your heart and your funny bone.SPONSORS & PARTNERSThanks to our sponsor: Food For The Hungry. Combine your church's heart for the poor and Food for the Hungry’s global experience at fh.org/churches.

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Sep 19, 2023 • 53min
LILR 089 | Dan Reiland on Leadership Transitions and Measuring Success in Succession
Former Executive Pastor, Dan Reiland, shares insights on leadership transitions and measuring success in succession in the church. He discusses the importance of effective communication, maintaining positive relationships, and preparing for successful leadership transitions. He also emphasizes the acceptance of change and succession planning, as well as the metrics for success. Check out the Ascentleader.org website for valuable resources on leadership transitions.

Sep 5, 2023 • 1h 2min
LILR 088 | Resiliency During Challenging Transitions, Co-Pastoring, and Much More with Jared Herd
“I have a radical ownership of everything I’m doing…By God’s grace, I’m waking up every day making a choice to lead God’s church.” Meet Jared Herd, Senior Pastor at The Church at Rancho Bernardo. Jared gives us a helpful look at his experience with a tough transition from a Co-Pastoring model. Listen in for practical wisdom on healthy Boards and the grit of leadership.Welcome to Episode 088 of the Leaders in Living Rooms Podcast with Sean Morgan. EPISODE LINKSsean@theascentleader.orghttps://thechurchrb.org/If you’re a leader approaching a succession or transition. Or maybe you’re a few years in and beginning to see how complex transitions leadership is… go to The Art of Pastoral Succession and checkout my brand new course in partnership with Carey Nieuwhof. Are you in Transition or have one on the horizon? Check out our 2023 cohorts and get connected with us at: https://theascentleader.org/cohorts/ WHO IS JARED?Jared is the Senior Pastor at The Church at Rancho Bernardo. He is a husband to Rosanna Marie Herd and a father to three children. Author of More Lost Than Found, Jared is a powerful voice in the church and has helpful experience in leadership transition to speak into pastors’ journeys today.SPONSORS & PARTNERSThanks to our sponsor: Food For The Hungry. Combine your church's heart for the poor and Food for the Hungry’s global experience at fh.org/churches.

Aug 15, 2023 • 59min
LILR 087 | Julian Lowe, LP at Oasis LA on Battling Pride and the Racial Divide
“If you do nothing, the devil braids the church’s success and the health of your soul together, and he makes you think it’s the same thing.” Meet Julian Lowe, Lead Pastor at Oasis LA. In today’s episode, we hear a vulnerable and insightful look at what succession in leadership looked like for Julian. With honesty and transparency, we hear about the challenges of humility, how gratitude can accompany obedience, and distinguishing your personal relationship with Jesus from the church you lead.Welcome to Episode 087 of the Leaders in Living Rooms Podcast with Sean Morgan. EPISODE LINKShttps://www.oasisla.org/If you’re a leader approaching a succession or transition. Or maybe you’re a few years in and beginning to see how complex transitions leadership is… go to The Art of Pastoral Succession and checkout my brand new course in partnership with Carey Nieuwhof. Are you in Transition or have one on the horizon? Check out our 2023 cohorts and get connected with us at: https://theascentleader.org/cohorts/ WHO IS JULIAN?Pastor Julian Lowe is a passionate and humorous teacher of God’s Word who began following Jesus after a career in the music industry. After being introduced to Oasis by a friend — it is there he met his wife Christina, a Florida native, who moved to LA in 2007 to pursue a 10+ year career in the film industry. They were married in 2012 and after years of serving, became Lead Pastors of Oasis Church in October 2019. Through their passion to reach the city of Los Angeles, their goal is to have the church be a true family. They are always down for a dance battle or karaoke night with friends – and they are also convicted to continually learn to live the lifestyle of Jesus. Julian and Christina live in Los Angeles with their two children – Bailey and Dallas.SPONSORS & PARTNERSThanks to our sponsor: Food For The Hungry. Combine your church's heart for the poor and Food for the Hungry’s global experience at fh.org/churches.