

Design Details
Brian Lovin, Marshall Bock
A weekly conversation about design process and culture. Hosted by Marshall Bock and Brian Lovin.
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Jul 4, 2018 • 1h 7min
254: The People's Champion (feat. Fabian Perez)
Today we caught up with Fabian Perez, the Director of Product Design at Splice, previously the Director of Product Design at GitHub. In today's episode we talk about the state of the music industry, the revolution of version control, becoming a manager at a young age, knowing when to switch jobs, and so much more.
Fabian on the Web:
Twitter
GitHub
Dribbble
Medium
Sponsors
Thanks to Abstract for sponsoring today's episode!
✨Abstract is a secure, version-controlled hub for your design files.
Salespeople have Salesforce, Developers have Github, Marketers have Marketo and now designers have Abstract.
You can try Abstract free for one month! Just visit www.goabstract.com for more information.

Jun 27, 2018 • 1h 50min
253: Follow The Troll Flow (feat. May-Li Khoe & Chikezie Ejiasi)
Today we sat down with May-Li Khoe and Chikezie Ejiasi to talk about building diverse teams. We dig deep into the problems of monocultures, how to think about team building as both an individual contributor and as a manager, actionable tactics to safely onboard and encourage a culture of diversity, and so much more.
May-Li on the web:
Website
Twitter
Instagram
Chikezie on the Web:
Twitter
Website
Instagram
Sponsors
Thanks to Swipies & Abstract for sponsoring today's episode!
✨Abstract is a secure, version-controlled hub for your design files.
Salespeople have Salesforce, Developers have Github, Marketers have Marketo and now designers have Abstract.
You can try Abstract free for one month! Just visit www.goabstract.com for more information.
📝Swipies are a reusable, durable, synthetic paper made for creative, productive people.
They're designed to be used with wet-erase pens, allowing your work to stay put until rinsed with water. They're the perfect companion in the home and in the office.
We use them here at Spec and now listeners will receive 10% off the entire store with promo code SPECFM
Check it out and make the switch at http://www.swipi.es/

Jun 20, 2018 • 1h 4min
252: Furniture Nomadic (feat. Mu-An Chiou)
Today we caught up with Mu-An Chiou, a developer working on the web systems team at GitHub, previously a product designer at GitHub. In this episode we dig into what Mu-An is excited about in the world of web development and upcoming browser APIs, transitioning from product design to development, and the long journey to landing a gig at GitHub.
Mu-An on the web
Twitter
GitHub
Dribbble
Instagram
Website
Sponsors
Thanks to Swipies & Abstract for sponsoring today's episode!
✨Abstract is a secure version-controlled hub for your design files.
Salespeople have Salesforce, Developers have Github, Marketers have Marketo and now designers have Abstract.
You can try Abstract free for one month! Just visit www.goabstract.com for more information.
📝Swipies are a reusable, durable, synthetic paper made for creative, productive people.
They're designed to be used with wet-erase pens, allowing your work to stay put until rinsed with water. They're the perfect companion in the home and in the office.
We use them here at Spec and now listeners will receive 10% off the entire store with promo code SPECFM
Check it out and make the switch at http://www.swipi.es/

Jun 13, 2018 • 1h 20min
251: Hip-Hop & Horses (feat. Steph Engle)
Today we caught up with Stephanie Engle, a product designer in SF currently working on self-driving cars at Cruise, previously designing social experiences in VR at Facebook. In this episode we dig into Stephanie's current work in the auto industry, and what it's like designing in-car experiences for self-driving cars. We also get into Stephanie's background as a designer, including how she found her way into the industry, how she ended up on the social VR team at Facebook, and so much more!
Stephanie on the web
Website
Dribbble
Twitter
Medium
Sponsors
Thanks to Swipies & Abstract for sponsoring today's episode!
✨Abstract, is a secure version-controlled hub for your design files.
Salespeople have Salesforce, Developers have Github, Marketers have Marketo and now designers have Abstract.
You can try Abstract free for one month! Just visit www.goabstract.com for more information.
📝Swipies are a reusable, durable, synthetic paper made for creative, productive people.
They're designed to be used with wet-erase pens, allowing your work to stay put until rinsed with water. They're the perfect companion in the home and in the office.
We use them here at Spec and now listeners will receive 10% off the entire store with promo code SPECFM
Check it out and make the switch at http://www.swipi.es/

Jun 6, 2018 • 1h 28min
250: LIVE at Combine (feat. May-Li Khoe, Katie Dill & Soleio Cuervo)
We made it! Another milestone in the Design Details archive: episode 250 🎉
For this special episode we hosted a live show with our friends May-Li Khoe, Katie Dill, and Soleio Cuervo. In the conversation we dig into hiring junior designers, how to identify talent, equity and salary negotiations, building a career rubric, and so much more. Also, a huge thank you to Combine for hosting us in their beautiful new space!
To everyone who's joined us on this 250 episode marathon: thank you! Whether this is your first or 250th episode listening in, we appreciate your support and feedback; thank you! We also want to announce - to avoid too big of a surprise - that after episode 256 Bryn will be stepping away from the show. We'll have more updates on Twitter in the coming weeks if you'd like to stay posted.
Now, on to the show!
May-Li on the web
Twitter
Katie on the web
Twitter
Soleio on the web
Twitter
Sponsors
Thanks to Abstract for sponsoring today's episode!
✨Abstract is a secure version-controlled hub for your design files.
Salespeople have Salesforce, Developers have Github, Marketers have Marketo and now designers have Abstract.
You can try Abstract free for one month! Just visit www.goabstract.com for more information.

May 23, 2018 • 1h 12min
249: Hi/Lo Technical (feat. Priyanka Kodikal)
Today we caught up with Priyanka Kodikal, a product designer currently working at WhatsApp. In this episode we dig into Priyanka's work at WhatsApp and what it's like shipping to more than a billion people around the world. We also learn about Priyanka's journey from India to WhatsApp, and the winding path it took to land at her dream job.
Priyanka on the web
Dribbble
Medium
Twitter
Website
Sponsors
Thanks to Abstract for sponsoring today's episode!
✨Abstract is a secure version-controlled hub for your design files.
Salespeople have Salesforce, Developers have Github, Marketers have Marketo and now designers have Abstract.
You can try Abstract free for one month! Just visit www.goabstract.com for more information.

May 16, 2018 • 1h 24min
248: OshKoshFigJosh (feat. Josh Dunsterville)
Today we caught up with Josh Dunsterville, a designer and community manager currently building the community at Figma. In this episode we dig into Josh's work at Figma, diving deep into what it really means to grow a healthy online community. We also caught up with Josh about his journey into design, coming from a small town in Nevada to working remote for a technology company.
Josh on the web
Dribbble
Twitter
Medium
Sponsors
Thanks to Swipies & Abstract for sponsoring today's episode!
✨Abstract, is a secure version-controlled hub for your design files.
Salespeople have Salesforce, Developers have Github, Marketers have Marketo and now designers have Abstract.
You can try Abstract free for one month! Just visit www.goabstract.com for more information.
📝Swipies are a reusable, durable, synthetic paper made for creative, productive people.
They're designed to be used with wet-erase pens, allowing your work to stay put until rinsed with water. They're the perfect companion in the home and in the office.
We use them here at Spec and now listeners will receive 10% off the entire store with promo code SPECFM
Check it out and make the switch at http://www.swipi.es/
Get in Touch
If you'd like to talk about today's episode, ask us or today's guest a question or just say, "hello", We've got a place for that in our Spectrum.chat community channel

May 9, 2018 • 1h 46min
247: Give A Goat A Gobstopper (feat. Kyle Turman)
Today we caught up with Kyle Turman, a product designer on the design systems team at Etsy. In this episode we dig into Kyle's work at Etsy on building seller-facing design systems, working remotely, the value of craft, and Bryn and Brian get a free therapy session.
Kyle on the web
Website
Twitter
Medium
Instagram
Sponsors
Thanks to Swipies & Abstract for sponsoring today's episode!
✨Abstract, is a secure version-controlled hub for your design files.
Salespeople have Salesforce, Developers have Github, Marketers have Marketo and now designers have Abstract.
You can try Abstract free for one month! Just visit www.goabstract.com for more information.
📝Swipies are a reusable, durable, synthetic paper made for creative, productive people.
They're designed to be used with wet-erase pens, allowing your work to stay put until rinsed with water. They're the perfect companion in the home and in the office.
We use them here at Spec and now listeners will receive 10% off the entire store with promo code SPECFM
Check it out and make the switch at http://www.swipi.es/

May 2, 2018 • 1h 45min
246: Cats & Design Systems (feat. Diana Mounter & Brent Jackson)
Today we dipped into a double-guest episode with our friends Diana Mounter and Brent Jackson! Diana and Brent are some of the best people working on design systems today, and in this episode we get to dig into the tools and workflows they've developed when working on systems, what they're excited about in design systems, and we even get technical to talk about the technologies that are change the way we build.
Diana on the web
Website
Twitter
GitHub
Medium
Dribbble
Brent on the web
Twitter
GitHub
Website
Compositor
Writing
Sponsors
Thanks to Swipies & Abstract for sponsoring today's episode!
✨Abstract, is a secure version-controlled hub for your design files.
Salespeople have Salesforce, Developers have Github, Marketers have Marketo and now designers have Abstract.
You can try Abstract free for one month! Just visit www.goabstract.com for more information.
📝Swipies are a reusable, durable, synthetic paper made for creative, productive people.
They're designed to be used with wet-erase pens, allowing your work to stay put until rinsed with water. They're the perfect companion in the home and in the office.
We use them here at Spec and now listeners will receive 10% off the entire store with promo code SPECFM
Check it out and make the switch at http://www.swipi.es/

Apr 25, 2018 • 1h 21min
245: Sandwich Principal (feat. Tom Moor)
Today we caught up with Tom Moor, a software engineer building Abstract. In this episode we dig into Tom's journey with startups, including his work at Buffer, Sqwiggle, Speak, Outline, and now Abstract. We also get to talk about Tom's current work at Abstract, evolving the design review, and so much more.
We've also got a big announcement: we're building a new thing for you! It's called Spectrum and it's a place for the community to hang out and share what's going on in design, development, and anything else you might be interested in.
We're still in beta, so expect bugs and lots of improvements over the next few weeks, but in the meantime we'd love to hang out with you and chat!
Sign up at Spectrum.chat, join the SpecFM community, and share feedback in our Spectrum bug report channel!
Tom on the web
Twitter
Website
Outlnie
Thanks to 📝 Swipies for sponsoring Today's Episode!
Swipies are a reusable, durable, synthetic paper made for creative, productive people. They're designed to be used with wet-erase pens, allowing your work to stay put until rinsed with water. They're the perfect companion in the home and in the office.
We use them here at Spec and now listeners will receive 10% off the entire store with promo code SPECFM
Check it out and make the switch at http://www.swipi.es/