

The Drug Science Podcast
Drug Science
Professor David Nutt has spent a career making the argument for a rational, evidence-based approach to drug policy and drug use. The scientific evidence still challenges perceived wisdom on drugs and for that reason can appear to be contentious. In this podcast, the Professor explores the actual harms and potential benefits of various drugs, challenging myths surrounding classification and legislation, and exploring the societal impact of poorly informed drug policy. Using evidence in public policy should not be controversial. A podcast for anyone interested in understanding the scientific truth about drugs, free from political or moral concern.
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Feb 26, 2025 • 53min
124. The power of Medicine with Josh Dugdale
In this episode of the Drug Science podcast, we speak with Josh Dugdale of the Wasing Estate, described as a "mindful aristocrat." He shares his experiences with Ayahuasca in the Amazon and how they influenced his journey upon returning to the UK. Josh discusses the creation of a mindful and spiritual festival during the pandemic, its evolution over time, and its wider impact. He also explores the challenges surrounding psilocybin access rights, the changes needed in this area, and what the future of psychedelic reform might look like.Medicine Festival Psilocybin Access RightsAyahuascaPsilocybinMDMADrug Science Reschedule PsilocybinMedical CannabisPTSD Veterans PTSDIndustrial Hemp LicensingDEFRASubscribe to podcast
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Feb 11, 2025 • 56min
123. Memory, Movies and Psychedelics with Prof Ravi Das
Prof. Ravi Das, a psychopharmacology expert at UCL, dives into innovative treatments for addiction and anxiety. He discusses the groundbreaking largest DMT study and its implications for memory reconsolidation. The conversation highlights the ethical landscape of psychedelic research and the potential effectiveness of DMT compared to traditional therapies. Taking a closer look at memory reconsolidation, he explains how targeting unstable memories could disrupt cravings and anxiety conditions, paving the way for future mental health treatments.

Jan 29, 2025 • 55min
122. Street Drugs Discussions with Prof Chris Chandler and Dr James Morgan
Tune in to the latest episode of the drug science podcast where we meet with Dr James Morgan, Prof Chris Chandler and Prof Jo Neill, the founders of Street Drugs Discussions (SDD). They discuss the process which led to them founding SDD, a series of webinars featuring experts on drug policy and drugs featuring topics surrounding overdose prevention centres, trafficking, specific substances and more. They reflect on the journey which got them to their current position as well as future hopes for SDD. Further, in this episode, the speakers discuss specific research conducted into long term heroin use and learning theory of addiction. Street Drugs DiscussionsBuvidal WedinosBarodpsycareDiamorphine assisted treatmentLeapNeil Woods EpisodeNeedle exchangeTrainspottingHeroinCrack cocaineNicotineAlcohol MDMAmorphineDrug Science Community Member
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Jan 15, 2025 • 53min
121. What is Naturalistic Research? with Dr Matthew X. Lowe
A conversation between Prof David Nutt and research scientist Dr Matthew X. Lowe.Dr Matthew X. Lowe PhD is Director of Research for Realm of Caring and Executive Director for Unlimited Sciences, a not-for-profit, observational research organisation with a focus on cannabis and psychedelic use by underrepresented population groups and a toll-free info line providing evidence-based support for anyone using psychedelics.In this episode, they discuss the vital role of observational and longitudinal research when it comes to the medicalisation of cannabis and psychedelics — and the importance for safetyof bringing real-world data into our collective knowledge base.They start with the genesis of Realm of Caring and Unlimited Sciences. Both organisations were conceived following first-hand experience of the banned compounds they research being profoundly medically transformative — inspiring co-founder Heather Jackson to grow related research and make it freely available to all who stand to benefit from such education. The origin stories of the organisations are followed by Dr Lowe’s personal route to his current research role and the roots of his passion for pursuing psychedelic research questions.Their focus then shifts to the present day with a comparison of roadblocks and red tape around researching cannabis and psychedelics in the UK and the US, noting the pioneering role that parents so often play in advocating for research into medicinal cannabis. Next comes a deeper exploration of specific properties of psychedelics that relate to their potential therapeutic applications, including their anti-addictive nature and positive habit-forming potential resulting from the neuroplastic window they potentiate — Unlimited Sciences has conducted the world’s largest naturalistic study on psilocybin use with further papers coming out on these implications.For the remainder of the episode, Prof David Nutt and Dr Matthew Lowe go into specifics on several key projects from Realm of Caring and Unlimited Sciences, including:- The Realm of Caring Observational Research Registry, being done in collaboration with Johns Hopkins Cannabis Science Laboratory. This ongoing research is an IRB-approved online survey study looking at the effects on a variety of health conditions, in people who do and do not use cannabis. It is open to everyone in the world with internet access. - The Cannabis and Health Research Initiative (CHRI), another collaboration between Johns Hopkins and Realm of Caring, examining the patient-level impact of therapeutic cannabis use, through data collection and dissemination — aiming to aid clinical decision making and policymaking. And finally, two ceremonial research projects looking at ayahuasca, foregrounding the role of community and context in ceremonial psychedelic experiences — both exemplifying Unlimited Sciences’ diversification of the evidence base on psychedelics by collecting real world data on underrepresented population groups: - With subjects who were Arabic-speaking women, a study exploring the psychological benefits of ayahuasca for refugees — with DrugScience collaborator Dr Robin Carhart-Harris. - And, currently in data analysis, with first results set to release in 2025, an IRB-approved study about ayahuasca use in the LGBTQIA+ community in collaboration with Costa Rica plant medicine retreat Jungle Gayborhood, with an emphasis on the importance of set and setting being truly safe spaces in the sense of meeting the specific needs of participants involved. Find out more about Dr Matthew X. Lowe and Unlimited Sciences below! Dr Matthew X. Lowe Realm of CaringUnlimited Sciences The Psychedelic Info LineCharlotte’s Web, Charlotte Figi and Realm of CaringRealm of Caring’s research libraryLong-term CBD study (Realm of Caring)Observational Research Registry (Realm of Caring)World’s largest naturalistic study on psilocybin use (Unlimited Sciences)Psychological benefits of ayahuasca for refugees (Unlimited Sciences)Jungle GayborhoodThe LGBTQIA+ study
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Jan 1, 2025 • 45min
120. Ask David Anything
Tune in to the latest episode of the drug science podcast where Prof Nutt meets with several Drug Science Community members for a session of “Ask David Anything”. Together, they explore questions such as the use of cannabis as a psychoactive substance in psychedelic therapy and the latest developments in regulatory decisions on psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy. CannabisTHCCBDMDMAPsilocybinKetamineOxford Ketamine ClinicMike Jay Psychonaughts bookBreathworkPsychedelic Cannabis book Daniel McqueenTreatment resistant depressionPTSDMaps
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Dec 18, 2024 • 49min
119. American Politics vs Science with Zoe Cormier
In the latest episode of the Drug Science Podcast, David Nutt sits down with Zoe Cormier, author of ‘Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll’. In this episode, Zoe draws upon her two great passions of music and science and how these lead to her interest around Drugs - she discusses the current landscape of drug policy, drawing upon similarities and differences between the UK, Canada, and the US. She shares insight on the political situation in the US, with reference to recent elections and the potential impact this may have on future drug policy. Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll BookCannabisLSDPsilocybinMDMADMTMDMA for PTSDMAPS CanadaMAPS IncidentSchizophreniaSkunkInuitsDonald TrumpJoe BidenMonty PythonRoald DahlManifest destinyGlastonbury festivalSmall Pharma FibromyalgiaBreaking ConventionSupport the podcast
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Dec 4, 2024 • 46min
118. Psychotherapy with Andrew Feldmár
In this episode of the Drug Science Podcast, we hear from Andrew Feldmár, a psychotherapist with over 52 years of experience. He discusses his journey into psychotherapy, his departure from mainstream psychiatric and therapeutic practices rooted in the concept of mental illness, and his experiences with LSD. Feldmár also critiques various techniques used in contemporary psychedelic research and offers a fresh perspective based on what he has learnt in his years of experience. Radical Adventure: An Inquiry into Psychedelic Psychotherapy BookAuschwitz 1956 Hungarian uprisingJon Hopkins Medical SchoolPsycholinguisticsLSDAlcoholPsilocybinFreudTimothy Leary AristotleSupport the Podcast
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Nov 20, 2024 • 53min
117. Drugs and Music with Jon Hopkins
In this episode, Prof Neil and Dr Thurgur speak with electronic musician Jon Hopkins. Together, they explore the intersection of music, mental health, and psychedelics. Jon shares his personal journey, from his early love of music to his experiments with electronic sounds as well as discussing how experiences with meditation and psychedelics have profoundly influenced his music, shaping albums like ‘Music for Psychedelic Therapy’ and ‘Ritual’. They delve into the therapeutic potential of music, especially within psychedelic therapy, and reflect on how music can serve as a powerful tool for healing and self-discovery. Find out more about Jon Hopkins and his music below!Jon HopkinsRitual Music For Psychedelic Therapy LinksMercury prizeLeo abrahamsQigong shaking practiceCannabisMdmaMichael pollanMagic mushroomsDMTTM - transcendental meditationPsilocybinTayos cavesShuar tribeAyahuascaMendel kaelan wave pathsEast forestRam dassKetaminePtsdSit around the fireRam dass foundation talksSpotifyThe icarosKetamine therapyPsychedelic therapyDolby atmos formatGlastonbury festCharli xcxColdplayBrat albumKundalini yoga breathing meditationYoga nidraVedic mantra meditationWim hof Become a Drug Science Community MemberBrat albumKundalini yoga breathing meditationYoga nidraVedic mantra meditationWim hof Become a Drug Science Community Member
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Nov 6, 2024 • 54min
116. Reducing drug harms in the UK with Dr Gillian Shorter and Prof Alex Stevens
In this episode, Prof Nutt meets with Prof Alex Stevens, researcher in drug policy, treatment and harm reduction and Gillian Shorter, a researcher into the health and wellbeing of people who use alcohol and drugs. In this episode they discuss harm reduction strategies in the UK. They delve into the root causes of the stigma surrounding substance use disorders and explore the effectiveness of various harm reduction approaches, such as needle exchange programs and drug consumption rooms. The conversation also considers the politics surrounding these strategies and the limitations imposed by the Misuse of Drugs Act. Drug consumption Rooms BBCDrug Science Enhanced Harm Reduction Working Group Needle ExchangeNaloxoneDrug Consumption Room High Tolerance Housing The Merseyside Model Drug TestingDrug Testing KitsInternational Harm Reduction Association HIV and AIDSOpiate Substitution Therapy Winter Comfort Case Support the Podcast
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Oct 23, 2024 • 47min
115. Six years of medical cannabis in the UK with Dr Leon Barron, Dr Callie Seaman and Michael Sassano
What is the UK medical cannabis industry looking like in 2024?We are 6 years on from legalisation of cannabis-based medical products in the UK and although many patients have now been able to access these products, many others are still struggling to get access. In this episode of the Drug Science podcast, Prof. David Nutt is joined by three leading experts in cannabis science and the evolving landscape of regulation. Dr. Callie Seaman, Dr. Leon Barron, and Michael Sassano share their insights into the future of cannabis as a medicine, the current regulatory environment, and the scientific innovations driving the industry forwardCannabis Industry CouncilMedical Cannabis Working Group SOMAI Pharmaceuticals Medical Cannabis Clinicians SocietyLondon Resilience Clinic German medical cannabis market NHS Cannabis-based products for medicinal useCost effectiveness paperHHS report This episode has been supported by the Cannabis Industry Council
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