
State Secrets
State Secrets is a weekly interview podcast featuring Cipher Brief experts and national security leaders.
Latest episodes

Aug 1, 2024 • 32min
The Arrest of Sinaloa Kingpin Ismael Zambada and Its Impact on the Drug Trade
In this episode of the State Secrets Podcast, Brad Christian interviews Mike Vigil, a former DEA Chief of International Operations, about the recent arrest of Ismael Zambada, co-founder of the Sinaloa Cartel, and the implications for the drug trade and US-Mexico relations. They discuss the background of Zambada and the Sinaloa Cartel, the timing of the arrest, the role of fentanyl in the drug trade, and the challenges of combating the cartels. Vigil emphasizes the need for public awareness and education about the dangers of illegal drugs, as well as a comprehensive strategy involving cooperation between the US and Mexico.

Jul 19, 2024 • 41min
Outgoing Director of the National Counterterrorism Center Reflects on today’s Very Real Terrorist Threat
Christine Abizaid, who has served as director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) for the past three years, sits down with State Secrets Podcast host Suzanne Kelly to talk about how the threat of terrorism has changed dramatically over the years and why the threat to Americans is still very real.

Jul 17, 2024 • 23min
TRM Labs and National Security: A View from Inside an Early Stage, Venture-Backed Startup
In this sponsored episode of the State Secrets podcast, host Suzanne Kelly talks with Sujit Raman, Chief Legal Officer at TRM Labs about how the private sector is working with government to address some of today’s most pressing national security challenges and how professionals like Raman, who also served as Associate Deputy Attorney General at the Department of Justice, are helping bridge gaps between government and the private sector.

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Jul 10, 2024 • 20min
At NATO Summit, Putin’s Greatest Weapon is still a Scare Tactic
Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges (Ret.), former Commanding General of the U.S. Army Europe, shares insights on the NATO Summit's significance regarding Ukraine and Russia. He discusses President Zelensky's aspirations for support and emphasizes Europe's urgent need for unity to confront threats effectively. Hodges warns that Putin's true power lies in his ability to instill fear in the West, impacting decisions on military actions. The conversation also touches on the interconnected risks posed by China and the importance of a strong NATO presence in Eastern Europe.

Jun 28, 2024 • 37min
How Technology Impacts U.S. Intelligence
Chip Usher, a former CIA executive, discusses the intersection of technology and intelligence in a bipartisan project. Topics include leveraging AI in intel operations, utilizing commercial data for national security, and navigating tech urgency amidst global competition.

Jun 24, 2024 • 42min
The Lights Are Going Out All Over Europe
In this episode of the State Secrets podcast, we’re talking with Cipher Brief Expert, Nick Fishwick, a former senior member of the British Foreign Office, about his column in The Cipher Brief titled, “The Lights are Going Out all over Europe”. Fishwick is talking about Europe’s relationship with Russia as it considers the possibility of war after Moscow’s illegal invasion of Ukraine in 2022. The decline of the relationship between Moscow and western governments which, until recently, still cooperated on issues ranging from counterterrorism to athletic competitions, is leading many in Europe to face the reality that war in Europe may be closer than they think.

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Jun 19, 2024 • 41min
High Command with Retired General Frank McKenzie
Retired General Frank McKenzie, former commander of U.S. Central Command and author of "The Melting Point," shares gripping insights from his 42 years in the military. He discusses the complexities of military leadership, including the balance of civilian oversight during critical operations. McKenzie reflects on the implications of Qasem Soleimani's assassination and the future of U.S.-Iran relations. He also dives into the significance of a potential Saudi-US deal, the evolving cyber threat landscape, and the strategic challenges posed by global powers like China and Russia.

May 31, 2024 • 35min
Around The World With Former CIA Officer Edward Bogan
Former Senior CIA Officer Ed Bogan spent a decades-long career at CIA focused on the most urgent issues of our time ranging from counterterrorism to Russia in Ukraine. In this episode of State Secrets, Bogan shares his journey from law school to joining the CIA and his experiences in counterterrorism and the Russia-Ukraine conflict. He emphasizes the importance of addressing the underlying causes of terrorism and the need to counter Russian disinformation. Bogan’s mission now – with a new 501c(3) – is focused on studying how leader’s use and misuse ‘states of emergency’ and the need for informed decision-making and action.

May 20, 2024 • 41min
Is Russia Attacking U.S. Government Employees Using High-Energy Weapons?
“Havana Syndrome” - reported by hundreds of U.S. officials, diplomats, CIA Officers, FBI Agents and White House staff - as well as some members of their families – is described as including severe headaches accompanied by loss of balance and often followed by cognitive issues. Some doctors have concluded that the likely source is a directed energy weapon that uses microwave or ultrasound waves to attack the brain and inner ear. In this episode, Cipher Brief Managing Editor Tom Nagorski talks with Christo Grozev, a journalist who served as a lead investigator on Havana Syndrome for a publication called The Insider and Insider Editor Michael Weiss as well as former senior CIA officer and Cipher Brief Expert Marc Polymeropoulos, who says that he himself was struck during a visit to Moscow. Grozev and Weiss also share the findings of their recent investigation conducted in cooperation with 60 Minutes and the German news magazine Der Spiegel that indicates who is behind Havana Syndrome, saying they have uncovered evidence that members of a special Russian military intelligence unit may be to blame. The revelations of their investigation have called into question findings by U.S. intelligence agencies that found – in their own investigations - that the “Anomalous Health Incidents” as they call them - are not the result of a coordinated effort by Russia or anyone else. Full reports of the government’s findings can be found online. This podcast focuses on another side of this continuing story.

Apr 9, 2024 • 29min
Ukraine's Bright Hope To Build Back Stronger
The Cipher Brief made its first reporting trip to Ukraine in February of 2022. That’s when we first met Tymofiy Mylovanov, the President of the Kyiv School of Economics. When we sat down with him then, Ukraine was preparing to mark one year since Russia’s brutal invasion. Mylovanov was sober at the time about what it would take to win the war and rebuild the country. Just over a year later, with an aid package that has been held up for months in Washington - I sat down with him again to talk about what it will take to rebuild Ukraine even as the war rages on - and why he still has hope even amid the challenges – for what lies ahead.