Nope, That's Not Normal

In this episode, Jessica and Mallory explore the idea that body image exists on a spectrum—and, as Mallory puts it, is not a destination but an ongoing relationship. They discuss the nuances of body positivity and neutrality and the emotional experiences tied to body image. Plus, they share practical tips for healing, the impact of societal norms, and how to let go of what’s expected to just let your body be.* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/Meet Our Guest, MalloryMallory Page is a non-diet dietitian and the founder of Live Unrestricted, guiding people in tuning out diet culture and listening to their own bodies so they can feel comfortable in their skin and confident in their choices with food and movement.Through her coaching, programs, podcast, Seems Like Diet Culture, and social media, she provides practical guidance on intuitive eating and body acceptance. Her approach removes the stress around food and body image so people can spend their energy on what truly brings them joy. Please include all the links you want included in our shownotes. I* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/malloryjpage/?hl=en* Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@malloryjpage?lang=en* Website: https://liveunrestricted.org/* Free Discovery Call: https://liveunrestricted.org/discovery-call* Podcast: https://liveunrestricted.org/podcastWatch The Conversation: Understanding the Body Image Healing Spectrum This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, Jessica and Dacy explore the complexities of body image, self-acceptance, and how all of that intersects with personal style. They discuss the impact of societal beauty standards, the journey towards body neutrality, and practical tips for dressing in a way that feels authentic and comfortable.Their conversation emphasizes the importance of buying clothes that fit, embracing individuality, and the mental and emotional work involved in shifting perspectives on body image and fashion so you can truly say “f*ck flattering!” and dress for you!* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/Meet Our Guest, DacyAs a weight inclusive, anti-diet personal stylist, Dacy Gillespie helps her clients reject fashion rules and ideal standards of beauty imposed by the patriarchy, white supremacism, and capitalism so that they can uncover their authentic style.Through their work building a functional wardrobe, Dacy’s clients make a mindset shift from thinking they need to wear what’s flattering to unapologetically taking up space in the world. After a lifetime of jobs in high-stress careers that didn’t suit her highly-sensitive, introverted personality, Dacy started mindful closet in 2013 in an attempt to create a more emotionally sustainable lifestyle.Her work has been featured in Forbes, Real Simple, New York Magazine’s The Strategist, and Lifehacker, and she is a frequent podcast guest. Dacy lives with her husband and two children in St. Louis, Missouri.* dacygillespie.substack.com* mindfulcloset.com* instagram.com/mindfulclosetWatch The Conversation: How to Ditch Outdated Style Rules to Feel Good in Your Clothes This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, Jessica and Melanie explore the concept of body neutrality, including personal experiences with body image, the impact of diet culture, and the challenges of navigating public perception in the age of social media. Melanie shares her journey towards body neutrality, emphasizing the importance of self-acceptance and the emotional toolkit needed to handle criticism.They also dig into misconceptions about body neutrality and intuitive eating, highlighting that choosing neutrality does not equate to neglecting health or well-being.* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/Meet Our Guest, MelanieMelanie Knights, she/they, is the host of The Culture Of It All, a podcast that explores what it really means to ditch diet culture whilst living life in a larger body. As someone who has spent their entire life somewhere on the fat spectrum, and too many years to count participating in harmful and disordered behaviour, she looks at the ways diet culture affects every part of our lives. Melanie – a fashion enthusiast – is also a fierce advocate for size-inclusive fashion, and challenges the politics and current erasure of plus sizes across the fashion industry through her TikTok content.https://tiktok.com/melanieknightshttps://uk.pinterest.com/cultureofitallpod/https://instagram.com/cultureofitallpodWatch The Conversation: Choosing Body Neutrality is Not Choosing to “Not Care” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, Jessica introduces us to the season 4 theme of Living Between Extremes and why she feels finding body neutrality in a world stuck between thin obsession and body love is more important now than ever before. She also talks through a few of the conversations you can expect to hear in the next few weeks! Bonus: find out what our question of the season is so you can start thinking about it for yourself as a tool for deeper healing.* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/Meet Our Host, JessicaJessica is the founder and CEO of Echeveria Organic, host of Nope, That’s Not Normal, and a published author. After going through her own disordered eating and trauma-healing journey—and spending more than 13 years working in content marketing—she now helps mental health and eating disorder recovery organizations amplify their message with authentic and intentional content marketing. Find her on:Instagram: @JessicaThiefelsInstagram: @NopeThatsNotNormal.Watch The Season 4 Intro Episode This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, Jessica and Megan chat about body image, inner child work, and the emotional complexities surrounding food and relationships. Megan shares her postpartum body image struggles and emphasizes the importance of reparenting and self-compassion in healing. Throughout the conversation, they explore how inner child wounds can manifest in adult relationships and eating behaviors and offer practical tools for listeners to navigate their own emotional landscapes.* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/Meet Our Guest, MeganMegan is a licensed psychotherapist and coach who specializes in helping individuals heal childhood trauma, regulate their nervous system, and create deep, meaningful relationships. She we all deserve compassion and have the capacity for growth, connection, and empathy.* http://instagram.com/connectwithmegan* connect-with-megan.comWatch The Conversation About Inner Child Healing This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, Jessica and Beatriz dig into the intricate relationship between the nervous system, emotional health, and disordered eating. Béa shares her journey as a holistic nurse practitioner and how she discovered the importance of understanding the nervous system in relation to food and body image. They discuss the pervasive influence of diet culture, the significance of self-awareness, and practical tools for healing and mindfulness. Together, they reiterate the need for a compassionate approach and the importance of listening to the body's signals.* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/Meet Our Guest, BeatrizBeatriz (Béa) Victoria Albina, NP, MPH, SEP (she/her) is a UCSF-trained Family Nurse Practitioner, Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, Master Certified Somatic Life Coach, author of the forthcoming "End Emotional Outsourcing: a Guide to Overcoming Codependent, Perfectionist and People Pleasing Habits" (expected Sept 30, Hachette Balance) and Breathwork Meditation Guide with a passion for helping humans socialized as women to reconnect with their bodies, regulate their nervous systems and rewire their minds, so they can break free from codependency, perfectionism and people pleasing and reclaim their joy.She is the host of the Feminist Wellness Podcast, holds a Masters degree in Public Health from Boston University School of Public Health and a BA in Latin American Studies from Oberlin College. Born in Mar del Plata, Argentina, Béa grew up in the great state of Rhode Island. She has been working in health & wellness for over 20 years and lives with her wife, Billey Albina.* Website* Instagram: @beatrizvictoriaalbinanp* Podcast: Feminist Wellness* Facebook* LinkedInWatch The Conversation About Nervous System, Self-Care, and Healing This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, Jessica and Dr. Lisa Folden explore personal experiences with disordered eating, the importance of awareness in movement, and how to let go of the need to control body size by understanding the deeper emotional connections tied to body image. They talk a lot about trust, surrender, and doing that deeper work!* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/Meet Our Guest, LisaDr. Lisa N. Folden is a North Carolina licensed physical therapist, NASM certified behavior change specialist and Anti-diet Health & Body Image Coach. She owns Healthy Phit Physical Therapy & Wellness Consultants in Charlotte, NC where she provides trauma-informed and weight-inclusive care to clients in diverse bodies and those in eating disorder recovery.As a health at every size (HAES®️) ambassador and movement expert, Dr. Folden assists clients seeking healthier lifestyles. Her weight-neutral approach encourages intuitive eating, joyful movement, body acceptance and breaking up with toxic diet culture.Dr. Lisa is a mom of three, published author and speaker whose goal is to see as many people as possible living their best lives without worrying about their weight!A regular contributor to articles on topics related to physical therapy, health, wellness, self-care, motherhood, body image and fat-friendly healthcare, Dr. Folden has had the distinct honor of being featured in Oprah Magazine, Shape Magazine, New York Times and several other publications and was selected as one of Charlotte’s 50 Most Dynamic Women.She is the co-host of the Feeling Lighter Podcast by WeShape, and a member of the National Association of Black Physical Therapists, the Association of Size Diversity & Health and Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc.* https://www.healthyphit.com* https://www.instagram.com/HealthyPhit* https://www.facebook.com/HealthyPhitWatch The Conversation About What’s Happening When We Want to be “Thinner” This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, Jessica and Dr. Jenna DiLossi discuss the complexities of body image and the critical role of self-talk in shaping our perceptions and behaviors. They delve into how societal pressures and personal experiences shape our self-image, as well as the importance of self-compassion. They get into the science behind self-talk, the impact of repetition on our beliefs, and practical strategies for building awareness of our thoughts. Becase this IS a skill that can be learned!* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/Meet Our Guest, JennaDr. Jenna DiLossi is the co-founder and clinical director of the Center for Hope & Health, LLC., an outpatient treatment center located in Ardmore, Pennsylvania. She specializes in cognitive-behavioral treatment models for eating disorders, OCD, PTSD, phobias, and other anxiety-related concerns.Dr. DiLossi is licensed as both a clinical psychologist and professional counselor in Pennsylvania with additional credentialing as a board certified specialist in Behavioral & Cognitive Psychology through the American Board of Professional Psychology, a Diplomate CBT-Certified Therapist and Trainer/Consultant through the Academy of Cognitive & Behavioral Therapies, and a certified Prolonged Exposure Therapist and Supervisor through the University of Pennsylvania.* https://www.centerforhopeandhealth.com/our-team/jenna-dilossi/* https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/jenna-dilossi-ardmore-pa/183953* https://mindingyourmind.org/clinician/jenna-dilossi-psy-d-lpc/* https://cbicenterforeducation.com/instructors/jenna-dilossi-psyd-abpp* https://www.cbte.co/therapist/dilossi-jenna/* https://iocdf.org/providers/dilossi-jenna/* https://www.instagram.com/evidencebasedbesties* https://www.amazon.com/Comorbid-Eating-Disorders-Obsessive-Compulsive-Disorder/dp/1009186876Watch The Conversation About The Importance of Self-Talk This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, Jessica and Jeanette, chat about the complexities of body image, fashion, and self-acceptance. Jeannette shares her personal journey, highlighting the struggles and triumphs of navigating body positivity in a society that often imposes unrealistic standards. They explore the importance of dressing for yourself, breaking fashion norms, and the therapeutic aspects of fashion. The conversation also touches on the need for more accessible fashion options for all body types and the significance of community in fostering self-love and acceptance including Jeanette’s list of plus-size brands creating the best option right now!* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/Meet Our Guest, JeanetteJeannette is a local creative, mover & shaker, community organizer, and advocate on building up community, and sharing the richness and diversity of the arts in our local communities. Jeannette is a co-founder of Fat Babes club of Columbus, (a social group that hosts body positive and body neutrality events, She is also a social media collaborator and host Of Opera-isms Podcast at Opera Columbus. In 2023 Jeannette was nominated and awarded Influencer of the year by The Columbus Fashion Council and serves on the board of directors for 934 Gallery.* https://www.instagram.com/jeannetteyconfettii* https://www.tiktok.com/@jeannettyconfettiWatch The Conversation About Confidence, Plus-Size Fashion, and Dressing Your Own Way on Substack. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, Jessica and Jenna Doak share their experiences with exercise addiction, the impact of diet culture, and their transformation towards a more joyful and intuitive approach to fitness. They dig into the societal pressures surrounding body image, the significance of holistic health, and the need for joy in movement. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the social determinants of health and how they affect our well-being—zooming out from movement as the only way to take care of your body, as diet culture could have us believe.* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Meet Our Guest, JennaJenna Doak is a body-positive personal trainer and the founder of Body Positive Fitness, a judgment-free fitness studio and online coaching community. With over 20 years in the industry, Jenna is on a mission to dismantle toxic fitness and diet culture, creating spaces where people of all sizes, abilities, and backgrounds can move their bodies with joy, without the pressure of weight loss. Through their in-person and virtual training programs, social media presence, and educational content, she’s redefining what it means to be strong, capable, and confident.* www.bodypositivefitness.ca* https://www.instagram.com/bodypositivefitness_/ * TikTok: @bodypositivefitness* YouTube: Body Positive Fitness* www.bodypositivefitness.ca/newsletterWatch The Conversation About Rethinking Working Out This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe