

Digital Health Podcast- Royal Society of Medicine
RSM Digital Health Council
Discover how digital technologies are transforming healthcare through interviews with leading digital health experts. Presented by Dr Annabelle Painter
All views expressed in this podcast are of the speakers themselves and not of the RSM.
Find out more about the RSM digital council:
rsm.ac/dhsectionpodcast
Hosted by Annabelle Painter:
www.linkedin.com/in/dr-annabelle-painter/
All views expressed in this podcast are of the speakers themselves and not of the RSM.
Find out more about the RSM digital council:
rsm.ac/dhsectionpodcast
Hosted by Annabelle Painter:
www.linkedin.com/in/dr-annabelle-painter/
Episodes
Mentioned books

Jul 17, 2023 • 24min
How femtech is filling the gender data gap. With Dr Saddif Ahmed- Director at Flo Health
This episode features a conversation with Dr Saddif Ahmed- Director of Clinical Safety and Accuracy at Flo Health, uncovering how femtech products are providing novel insights into women's health.
Discussion topics include:
- How period tracking apps are leading to earlier diagnosis of women's health disorders
- How femtech data is challenging conventional medical wisdom and offering novel insights into how sleep, mood and exercise vary of their menstrual cycle
- The potential for future research in the field using data collected at scale from apps and wearables

Jul 3, 2023 • 50min
How should we regulate medical AI in the UK? With Professor Stephen Gilbert- Medical Device Regulatory Science expert
In this episode, we delve into the realm of AI regulation and its impact on the future of medical AI innovation in UK. Joining me is the esteemed Professor Stephen Gilbert, a medical device regulatory science academic.
During our discussion, we explore:
The necessity for innovative regulatory approaches in the AI domain
The diverging paths of EU and US regulatory strategies
Challenges posed by the EU MDR approach and its horizontal regulatory system
Pioneering approaches to regulation, emphasising system rather than product-level oversight
Relevant publicatons:
https://www.jmir.org/2023/1/e43682
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-023-02412-6https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2949761223000421

Jun 19, 2023 • 34min
Healthtech careers for clinicians with Dr Azeem Alam- Co-founder of BiteMedicine
This episode features a conversation with Dr Azeem Alam, member of the RSM Digital Health Council and co-founder of Bitemedicine, the creators of Bitelabs, a healthtech and innovation fellowship for clinicians
Discussion points include:
- The bitelabs fellowship
- Ways clinicians can gain experience in digital health
- How you can combine tech experience with clinical training
- Roles for clinicians within healthtech companies
Resources/opportunities discussed during the podcast:
Bitelabs: @BiteLabsHealth https://bitelabs.io
Fellowships/programmes:
- Topol Digital fellowships: Topol Digital FellowshipsHealth Education Englandhttps://topol.hee.nhs.uk › digital-fellowshipsFellowships in Clinical Artificial Intelligence : https://www.aicentre.co.uk/fellowships
- National medical director's clinical fellow scheme (digital roles available): https://www.fmlm.ac.uk/programme-services/individual-support/national-medical-directors-clinical-fellow-scheme
- Royal College of Physicians Flexible portfolio training (clinical informatics stream): https://www.rcplondon.ac.uk/projects/flexible-portfolio-training
- Clinical entrepreneur programme: https://www.england.nhs.uk/aac/what-we-do/how-can-the-aac-help-me/clinical-entrepreneur-programme
- Digital health leadership programme https://digital-transformation.hee.nhs.uk/digital-academy/programmes/digital-health-leadership-programme
- Harvard health tech fellowship https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/healthtechfellowship/fellowship-overview
- Stanford biodesign innovation fellowship:https://biodesign.stanford.edu/programs/fellowships/innovation-fellowships.html
- Faculty fellowship: https://faculty.ai/fellowship-fellows/
- Entrepreneur First: https://www.joinef.com/
Events:
- Royal Society of Medicine Digital health council events
- HETT
- Digital health Rewired
- SomX events
- Intelligent Health
- Med-tech World
Blog article about different roles for clinician in digital health:
https://medium.com/@annabellepainter/what-is-a-digital-doctor-db14522ec398
Range- Generalism book:
https://davidepstein.com/the-range/

Jun 5, 2023 • 40min
The Accurx approach to solving healthcare communication with Dr Satya Raghuvanshi- VP at accurx
This episode features a conversation with Dr Satya Raghuvanshi- VP at Accurx exploring the development of healthtech communication tools in the NHS.
Discussion points include
- How Accurx is solving entrenched communication problems in primary & secondary care
- Accurx’s approach to product development and market entry that have contributed to its success
- How Accurx is now tackling elective recovery

May 23, 2023 • 40min
Evidence generation for digital therapeutics with Professor Colin Espie- Co-founder of Big Health
This episode features a conversation with Professor Colin Espie Professor of Sleep Medicine at the University of Oxford and co-founder and Chief Scientist at Big Health. It focusses on the topic evidence generation for digital therapeutics
Discussion topics include:
- Why evidence generation is so important for digital therapeutics
- The distinction between evidence-informed and evidence-based therapies
- The challenge of designing placebo controlled trials for digital therapies
Links to papers:
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/forefront.20220223.739329/
https://www.jmir.org/2023/1/e43682

May 9, 2023 • 45min
LLMs as medical devices with Dr Hugh Harvey- Managing Director at Hardian Health
This episode features a conversation with Dr Hugh Harvey- Managing Director at Hardian Health exploring the regulatory, ethical and logistical challenges involved in developing Large Language Models (LLMs) as medical devices.
Discussion topics include:
- A step-by-step guide to the regulatory approval process for LLM medical devices
- Should users be allowed to ask general purpose LLMs (like chatGPT) medical questions?
- What needs to change in current regulation in order for it to keep pace with recent AI developments
Blog posts mentioned in podcast:
Hardian Health blog by Hugh Harvey: https://www.hardianhealth.com/blog/how-to-get-regulatory-approval-for-medical-large-language-models
MHRA LLM blog post: https://medregs.blog.gov.uk/2023/03/03/large-language-models-and-software-as-a-medical-device/
RSM Ethics and Regulation for AI in health event: https://www.rsm.ac.uk/events/digital-health/2022-23/ter04/

Apr 25, 2023 • 40min
The transformative potential of triage technology with Dr Murray Ellender- CEO of eConsult
This episode features a conversation with Dr Murray Ellender- CEO of eConsult. It explores how innovative digital triage tools are catalysing new ways of working and improving system efficiency within the NHS.
Discussion points include:
- Digital triage enabled primary & secondary care
- The concept of one unified 'digital door' across NHS services
- The future of AI-enabled triage

Apr 11, 2023 • 47min
Google & Mental Health with Megan Jones Bell
Exploring Google's consumer mental health efforts with Megan Jones Bell, Clinical Director- Consumer and Mental Health at Google & ex-Chief Strategy and Science Officer at Headspace.
This episode is themed on mental health to accompany the upcoming Digital Health section event 'Digital mental health in adults and older people' https://www.rsm.ac.uk/events/digital-health/2022-23/ter52/
Find out more about Google's consumer mental health efforts here: https://blog.google/technology/health/mental-health-month-2022/


