The Universe Within Podcast
A podcast delving into plants, plant medicine, consciousness, holistic health, philosophy, psychology, science and myriad related topics. Hosted by Jason Grechanik.
This podcast was created to give voice to the doctors, shamans, guides, facilitators, visionaries, anthropologists, linguists, scientists and wisdom-keepers working on the ground day in and day out within their respective fields.
Latest episodes

May 14, 2025 • 1h 55min
Ep. 158 - Roman Hanis - Beyond Ayahuasca: Evolutionary Science of Indigenous Amazonian Wisdom
Hey everybody! Episode 158 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Roman Hanis. This is my second time interviewing Roman. I really enjoyed our first interview with Roman and was impressed with his wisdom and what he had to share. He is releasing a book soon so I was happy to heave him back on to speak about it. Its called Beyond Ayahuasca: Evolutionary Science of Indigenous Amazonian Wisdom. I had the pleasure to read it a while back and really enjoyed it. Its full of wisdom about these traditional technologies and I think you all will gain much from this episode as from the first. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, and Q&As, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!To learn more about or contact Roman, including his book, visit his website at: paititi-institute.orgTo learn more about our work, visit our website: https://NicotianaRustica.org To view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it would be a big help if you could share it with your own audiences via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. That would be super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas with my colleague Merav Artzi (who I interviewed in episode 28) in July in Westport, Ireland. If you would like more information about joining us and the work I do, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.org Integration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithin YouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanik Website: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcast Music: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski’s Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H

Apr 30, 2025 • 3h 31min
Ep. 157 - Todd Roberts & Lacey Ann Luna - The Medicine Path: Ayahuasca & Shipibo Lineage
Todd Roberts and Lacey Ann Luna, co-founders of Intertwining Medicines, share their deep-rooted experiences in the Shipibo ayahuasca tradition. They explore transformative journeys of healing, particularly during the COVID pandemic, and highlight the challenges of facilitating ceremonies. The duo discusses the balance between genuine spiritual callings and ego-driven desires, the complexities of morality, and the significance of integrity in healing practices. Their insights into plant intelligence and cultural respect offer a profound perspective on the evolving landscape of ayahuasca retreats.

Apr 16, 2025 • 1h 43min
Ep. 156 - Melissa Osorio - Ayahuasca, Trauma, Abuse, & Healing
Hey everybody! Episode 156 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Melissa Osorio. Melissa has a really interesting, difficult, and inspiring story. We spoke about her early years growing up in Venezuela, the death of first her sibling and then her father, the impact his had, her journey to the US to pursue and achieve the American Dream, her discontent, her journey with ayahuasca, the revelations of early childhood sexual abuse at the hands of her father, and how that led her on a journey of self-discovery and healing. Melissa has an inspiring story and a lot of wisdom to teach and I trust you all will find this a deep and helpful conversation. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!To learn more about Melissa, visit her website: https://melissa-osorio.comTo view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it would be a big help if you could share it with your own audiences via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. That would be super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas with my colleague Merav Artzi (who I interviewed in episode 28) in April/May in Porto Covo, Portugal, and July in Westport, Ireland. If you would like more information about joining us and the work I do, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.org Integration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithin YouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanik Website: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcast Music: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski’s Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H

Apr 4, 2025 • 1h 48min
Ep. 155 - Merav Artzi, Jason Grechanik, & Tara Muirghein - Tobacco & European Tree Wisdom
Hey everybody! Here is a special 155 episode of the show. This episode is an interview that I did with my colleague Merav Artzi and our friend Tara Muirghein of Fire Tree Alchemy. Tara invited us on to speak about our story, our work with connecting to the wisdom of plants, our lineage from the Amazon, how we work with tobacco and trees, and how we have begun to bridge this technology with connecting people with the wisdom of their own indigenous lands and trees. It was lovely to share with Tara, thank you to her for having us on, and we hope you enjoy this episode. As always, to support this podcast, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!To learn more about our work, visit our website: https://NicotianaRustica.org To view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it would be a big help if you could share it with your own audiences via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. That would be super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas with my colleague Merav Artzi (who I interviewed in episode 28) in April/May in Porto Covo, Portugal, and July in Westport, Ireland. If you would like more information about joining us and the work I do, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.org Integration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithin YouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanik Website: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcast Music: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski’s Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H

Apr 2, 2025 • 2h 8min
Ep. 154 - Dr. Moshe Daniel Block - Naturopathy, Alchemy, Chronic Illness, & Mind-Body Connection
Hey everybody! Episode 154 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Dr. Moshe Daniel Block. Moshe is a really interesting guy and is a Naturopathic doctor. We spoke about his background, naturopathic medicine, the mind-body connection, chronic illnesses, auto-immune conditions, the limits of the Western materialist medical model, the soul, alchemy, the mind and the power of belief systems in illness, Hermeticism and Truth, and many other topics. It was a joy to speak with Moshe and have him share in his holistic wisdom and I trust you all will gain much from this interview. As always, to support this podcast, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!This episode is sponsored by Real Mushrooms. As listeners, visit their website to enjoy a discount of 25% off your first order: https://www.realmushrooms.com/universeTo learn more about Moshe, visit his website:https://dr-moshe.comTo view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it would be a big help if you could share it with your own audiences via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. That would be super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas with my colleague Merav Artzi (who I interviewed in episode 28) in April/May in Porto Covo, Portugal, and July in Westport, Ireland. If you would like more information about joining us and the work I do, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.orgIntegration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithinYouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanikWebsite: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcastMusic: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski’s Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H

Mar 19, 2025 • 2h
Ep. 153 - Satya - Bridging Ancient Wisdom with Modern Psychedelic Therapy
Hey everybody! Episode 153 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Satya. This was my second time speaking with her. I have had the chance to get to know Satya and her work more since the first interview and I was very impressed with her ability to bridge different modalities together to create cathartic experiences for her guests and to help them to learn tools to do this work better. In this episode we spoke about this, about diagnosing and the felt-sense and presence that that involves, about ayahuasca, psychology and the bridging of ancient wisdom with more modern therapeutic ways of working with sacraments, and many other topics. I trust you all will gain much from this episode and the wisdom that Satya has to share. As always, to support this podcast, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!To learn more about Satya, visit her website: https://www.workingwithsatya.com/To view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it would be a big help if you could share it with your own audiences via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. That would be super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas with my colleague Merav Artzi (who I interviewed in episode 28) in April/May in Porto Covo, Portugal, and July in Westport, Ireland. If you would like more information about joining us and the work I do, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.org Integration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithin YouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanik Website: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcast Music: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski’s Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H

Mar 5, 2025 • 1h 50min
Ep. 152 - Manda Scott - Shamanism, Dreams, & Post-Capitalism Regenerative Economics
Hey everybody! Episode 152 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Manda Scott. Manda is an author, podcasters, shamanic dreaming practitioner, and works on a number of regenerative projects. I really enjoyed sitting down and speaking with her about these subjects as well as what she describes as a trauma culture from the Roman conquest and what more indigenous societies can teach us about ways forward. Manda has spent a lot of time with these subjects and questions and her knowledge is apparent in how she beautifully shares. I trust you all will get much from this episode. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, and Q&As, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!To learn more about Manda, visit her website: https://mandascott.co.uk/To view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it would be a big help if you could share it with your own audiences via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. That would be super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas with my colleague Merav Artzi (who I interviewed in episode 28) in April/May in Porto Covo, Portugal, and July in Westport, Ireland. If you would like more information about joining us and the work I do, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.org Integration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithin YouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanik Website: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcast Music: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski’s Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H

Feb 19, 2025 • 2h 23min
Ep. 151 - Brian James - Traumadelic: How a Western Model Limits the Wholeness of Shamanism
Hey everybody! Episode 151 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with my friend Brian James. Brian now has the distinction of being the first guest to be featured three times on this podcast. I brought Brian on to speak about his new book, Traumadelic. I was really happy to have Brian on again to speak about how he sees the overemphasis on trauma, and the more Western psychological model as whole, is potentially taking away from the richness and vastness of the more traditional shamanic experience. As plant medicine work moves in the Western mainstream, it is understandable that it will adapt and be incorporated into Western ways and cosmovisions. However, this does not come without cost, often severely limiting in scope and potentiality the benefits of both plant medicines and the traditional ways of working with them. This may be a controversial topic to some, as much of this has become a new dogma, but, as we speak about, heresy is rarely accepted with open arms and ultimately a pursuit of truth, however uncomfortable, is to be valued. I trust this conversation will be enlightening and shift some views that we may hold or not even realize that we are holding. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, and bonus material, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!This episode is sponsored by Real Mushrooms. As listeners, visit their website to enjoy a discount of 25% off your first order: https://www.realmushrooms.com/universe“Brian James is a depth counsellor, archetypal coach, writer, musician and cultural activist. He offers online counselling and coaching to individuals and couples and has published three books on the intersections of yoga, psychedelics, shamanism and depth psychology. Brian hosts the popular podcast Howl in the Wilderness (formerly Medicine Path) and over the past decade has created a wealth of practice and learning resources to support others on their journey of soul recovery. Brian regularly speaks on topics related to Soul Recovery including psychedelic integration, archetypal men’s work and the intersections of depth psychology, yoga and shamanism.”To learn more about or contact Brian, including his book, visit his website at: brianjames.caTo view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it would be a big help if you could share it with your own audiences via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. That would be super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas with my colleague Merav Artzi (who I interviewed in episode 28) in April/May in Porto Covo, Portugal, and July in Westport, Ireland. If you would like more information about joining us and the work I do, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.orgIntegration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithinYouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanikWebsite: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcastMusic: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski’s Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H

Feb 5, 2025 • 2h 8min
Ep. 150 - Martha Carlin - Gut Microbiome, Chronic Disease, & Holistic Health
Hey everybody! Episode 150 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Martha Carlin. Martha has a fascinating story. After her husband was diagnosed with Parkinson’s Disease, she quit her job and dedicated her life to better understanding the root of the disease. She began to discover that the Western medical system didn’t have a lot of answers and in her research she discovered the importance of the gut microbiome, both in Parkinsons and chronic diseases at large. It was a pleasure to speak with Martha and have her share in her decades of work and knowledge. We spoke about disease, the gut microbiome, the deleterious consequences of many Western lifestyle practices, holistic approaches to healing, the mind-body connection, and many other topics. I think Martha is a true scientist in the real meaning of that word and her insights and wisdom should be valuable to anyone interested in health and the human condition. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, and Q&As, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!To learn more about Martha or contact her, there are links to her projects:www.biotiquest.comwww.thebiocollective.comTo view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it would be a big help if you could share it with your own audiences via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. That would be super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!I will be guiding our next plant medicine dietas with my colleague Merav Artzi (who I interviewed in episode 28) in the Sacred Valley of Peru in February (almost SOLD OUT), April/May in Porto Covo, Portugal, and July in Westport, Ireland. If you would like more information about joining us and the work I do, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.org Integration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithin YouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanik Website: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcast Music: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski’s Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H
Jan 22, 2025 • 2h 9min
Ep. 149 - Alex Lasarev - Plant Medicine, Spiritual Evolution, COVID, & Comedy
Hey everybody! Episode 149 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Alex Lasarev. I met Alex many years ago through a mutual friend, John Keegan, who I also had on the podcast (ep. 60). Over the years I really respected what Alex stood for, especially during the pandemic where he was, for me, a voice of reason and dissent against much of the authoritarianism. Alex has had a really interesting life and we spoke about his background, traumatic childhood, how that led him to overcome his fear and become a renowned dating coach, his journey into spirituality and plant medicines, the Covid pandemic and how he was an advocate of freedom and love, his work with cancer treatments, and his role as a comedian and the power of comedy. This was a really varied interview and Alex has a fascinating life and I think you all can gain from his life and wisdom. As always, to support this podcast, get early access to shows, bonus material, and Q&As, check out my Patreon page below. Enjoy!This episode is sponsored by Real Mushrooms. As listeners, visit their website to enjoy a discount of 25% off your first order: https://www.realmushrooms.com/universe“Alex’s greatest passion is assisting all beings in the co-creation of a planet rooted in love and oneness.Alex loves creating uplifting content, coaching, and doing stand-up. After overcoming major health issues in his early 30s, one of Alex’s passions is reminding others how to clear non-beneficial energetic attachments. Alex is a love superspreader and gives out high-quality love shirts wherever he goes.Alex is the founder of the iProject.Love Foundation, which is dedicated to helping all beings remember their true nature so that all can contribute their unique gifts to the co-creation of paradise on Earth.Alex is also a co-founder of the Drkimchi Crypto Project, which is dedicated to helping patients connect with practitioners who offer holistic solutions to cancer.”To learn more about or contact Alex, visit his website at: https://www.alexthecomic.comTo view the recent documentary, Sacred Tobacco, about my work, visit: https://youtu.be/KB0JEQALI_wIf you enjoy the show, it’s a big help if you can share it via social media or word of mouth. And please Subscribe or Follow and if you can go on Apple Podcasts and leave a starred-rating and a short review. This is super helpful with the algorithms and getting this show out to more people. Thank you in advance!For more information about me and my upcoming plant medicine retreats with my colleague Merav Artzi, visit my site at: https://NicotianaRustica.orgIntegration/Consultation call: https://jasongrechanik.setmore.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/UniverseWithinYouTube join & perks: https://bit.ly/YTPerksPayPal, donate: https://paypal.me/jasongrechanikWebsite: https://UniverseWithinPodcast.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/UniverseWithinPodcastFacebook: https://facebook.com/UniverseWithinPodcastMusic: Nuno Moreno: https://m.soundcloud.com/groove_a_zen_sound & https://nahira-ziwa.bandcamp.com & Stefan Kasapovski’s Santero Project: https://spoti.fi/3y5Rd4H