

The Subverse
Dark N Light
The Subverse, presented by Dark 'n' Light is a podcast that uncovers the hidden and marginal in stories about nature, culture and social justice. From the cosmic to the quantum, from cells to cities and from colonial histories to reimagining futures. Join Susan Mathews every fortnight on a Thursday for weird and wonderful conversations, narrated essays and poems that dwell on the evolving contingencies of life.
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Nov 2, 2022 • 42min
How to Breathe, and Other Survival Lessons From Marine Mammals
In this episode, Susan speaks to Alexis Pauline Gumbs, a writer, independent scholar, poet, activist, and educator based in Durham, North Carolina, United States of America. Her most recent book Undrowned: Black Feminist Lessons from Marine Mammals, 2020, part of adrienne maree brown's Emergent Strategy Series at AK Press, flows from her previous works in a poetic continuum, with water playing a central role. In Undrowned, Alexis takes us through 19 thematic movements, lessons from marine mammals, and kindred beyond taxonomy. From echolocation to the evolution of dorsal fins, each movement takes us deeper into listening, breathing, practicing, surrendering, refusing, honouring our boundaries, slowing down, and taking care of our blessings, amongst a range of other meditations. Gumbs disrupts and critiques our mostly unthinking and unexamined acceptance of capitalist narratives and discourse. As a queer Black feminist love evangelist, as she describes herself, and a marine mammal apprentice, she draws on archives of Black feminist practice and theorists. Gumbs asks in the book, "What indentation am I making on the surface of this Earth, even if it is so far underwater no one can see?", something we all need to be asking ourselves. The Subverse is the podcast of Dark 'n' Light, a digital space that chronicles the times we live in and reimagining futures with a focus on science, nature, social justice and culture. Follow us on social media @darknlightzine, or at darknlight.com for episode details and show notes.

Oct 19, 2022 • 38min
Sea turtles, Island fever and Magical mysteries: the adventures of an evolutionary ecologist
In this episode, Susan Mathews speaks to Dr Kartik Shanker, who was inspired to begin a career in ecology by an ancient reptile, a sea turtle that crawled ashore late one night in Madras (now Chennai). As faculty at the Centre for Ecological Sciences, Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, India, his focus is the ecology and evolution of frogs, reptiles, birds, plants, and marine fauna. His group works on evolutionary biogeography of different taxa, and on the ecology and behaviour of mixed species groups of birds and reef fish. He has recently initiated work on sharks and rays off the Indian coast, and on reef associated organisms in the Andaman Islands. In a wide-ranging conversation, we talked about how he started off with evolutionary ecology around three decades ago, through sea turtle walks which continue till date. We discussed conservation in India, the often exclusionary and elitist ways in which programmes and schemes are rolled out, the differences between terrestrial and marine paradigms, and the importance of working with local communities. Shanker spoke of his love of writing, both fiction and non-fiction and the research and collegiality at the Centre for Ecological Sciences, the joy it gives him, and the sea change ethos of the work they do at the Dakshin Foundation. He also talks about the new book he is working on in the area of paleobiogeography. The Subverse is the podcast of Dark 'n' Light, a digital space that chronicles the times we live in and reimagining futures with a focus on science, nature, social justice and culture. Follow us on social media @darknlightzine, or at darknlight.com for episode details and show notes.

Oct 13, 2022 • 30min
Wild Learning: Yuvan Aves on nature as a classroom
Welcome to Stories from The Subverse, where we uncover hidden and marginalized stories through a more personal storytelling lens. In our first story we listen to Yuvan Aves—naturalist, educator, and writer who is certain to transport you, at least briefly, to Chennai's beaches. Painting a vivid portrait of what a meaningful education should be, Aves is convincing in his point of view of why it's crucial for a child's learning to be rooted in real-world engagement and lived experiences. Having been a nature educator for a decade now, Yuvan speaks eloquently about the need to design learning in such a way that it allows children to connect to their natural environment, and make their own discoveries. He reminds us of how important it is for schools to tap into children's innate sense of curiosity, and keen sense of observation, which the dominant classroom in India has unfortunately failed to do. Acknowledging his own past traumas, Aves makes a strong case for nature's ability to heal, and instill in us a deeper sense of empathy. At the heart of education should be ecological and human values, states Aves, who was awarded the Green Teacher Award (2021) by Sanctuary Nature Foundation. Join him on his shore walk to get a taste of his school of thinking, and listen to children's gleeful reactions as they spot creatures in their outdoor classroom. The Subverse is the podcast of Dark 'n' Light, a digital space that chronicles the times we live in and reimagining futures with a focus on science, nature, social justice and culture. Follow us on social media @darknlightzine, or at darknlight.com for episode details and show notes.

Oct 5, 2022 • 1h 12min
Arcx - Indra Das
Arcx is all about literary inspiration. In this six episode mini-series, we talk to six South Asian sci-fi, fantasy and speculative fiction writers, tracing their ideas from conception to execution. Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of assault and the depiction of traumatic events. Listener discretion is advised. In this episode we are in conversation with Indra Das, author, critic and editor. Indra's work crosses genres and creates intricate worlds. His writing is exploratory, fresh and fantastical. The Devourers, his debut novel, was published in 2015 to critical acclaim. The same year, he was shortlisted for the Shakti Bhatt First Book Prize. In 2016 he was shortlisted for the Crawford Prize. And in 2017, he won the Lambda Literary Award for Best LGBTQ Science Fiction, Fiction and Horror. Indra's short fiction has been featured in publications like Strange Horizons, Clarkesworld Magazine, Lightspeed Magazine, Tor.com, and Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine to name a few. We discuss Stephen King, the power of sensory writing, Gods and immortality. Arcx is a series of the Subverse, the podcast of Dark 'n' Light, a digital space that chronicles the times we live in and reimagining futures with a focus on science, nature, social justice and culture. Follow us on social media @darknlightzine, or at darknlight.com for episode details and show notes.

Sep 21, 2022 • 1h 2min
Arcx - Kuzhali Manickavel
Arcx is all about literary inspiration. In this six episode mini-series, we talk to six South Asian sci-fi, fantasy and speculative fiction writers, tracing their ideas from conception to execution. Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of abuse, and the depiction of traumatic events. Listener discretion is advised. Today, we talk to Kuzhali Manickavel, author, editor and columnist. Kuzhali's short fiction is beautiful, bizarre and haunting in the best way.Her short story collections Things We Found During the Autopsy and Insects Are Just Like You and Me except Some of Them Have Wings are wonderful mix of themes spanning genres. She has also written chapter books like 'How to Love Mathematical Objects' and 'Eating Sugar, Telling Lies'. Kuzhali has written for Granta, Strange Horizons, Agni, Subtropics, Michigan Quarterly Review and DIAGRAM. We discuss her love of scary movies, the reality of unresolved trauma, using dark humour, and everyday horrors. Arcx is a series of the Subverse, the podcast of Dark 'n' Light, a digital space that chronicles the times we live in and reimagining futures with a focus on science, nature, social justice and culture. Follow us on social media @darknlightzine, or at darknlight.com for episode details and show notes.

Sep 8, 2022 • 54min
Arcx - SB Divya
Arcx is all about literary inspiration. In this six episode mini-series, we talk to six South Asian sci fi, fantasy and speculative fiction writers, tracing their ideas from conception to execution. Today, we're in conversation with SB Divya, author, editor and engineer with an encyclopaedic knowledge of sci-fi and speculative fiction. Divya's work is a fascinating mix of her professional and personal backgrounds, with great science and even better storylines. Her debut novella, Runtime, was nominated for a Nebula award and her first novel Machinehood also received Hugo and Nebula nominations. She has been recognized for her work on the Escape Pod and her short fiction has been published in a variety of magazines and anthologies. Stay tuned for a conversation about the books that she grew up with, how being an editor helped her as a writer, privacy, healthcare and religion in sci-fi. You can follow Divya on Twitter at @divyastweets Arcx is a series of the Subverse, the podcast of Dark 'n' Light, a digital space that chronicles the times we live in and reimagining futures with a focus on science, nature, social justice and culture. Follow us on social media @darknlightzine, or at darknlight.com for episode details and show notes.

Aug 25, 2022 • 58min
Arcx - Samit Basu
Arcx is all about literary inspiration. In this six episode mini-series, we talk to six South Asian sci fi, fantasy and speculative fiction writers, tracing their ideas from conception to execution. In this episode, we're talking to one of India's best known Sci-fi and fantasy authors, Samit Basu. An incredibly versatile writer, Samit's work has spanned mediums, with comic books, film scripts and children's and YA novels. Samit's first novel, the Simoquin Prophecies, was published in 2003, when he was just 23. It evolved into the bestselling Gameworld Trilogy. His latest novel, The City Inside was shortlisted for the JCB Prize for Literature in 2020. We chat with Samit about how he got started as a writer, his refusal to be bound by genre, and the not-so-distant future depicted in his novel. Follow Samit on Twitter at @samitbasu. Arcx is a series of the Subverse, the podcast of Dark 'n' Light, a digital space that chronicles the times we live in and reimagining futures with a focus on science, nature, social justice and culture. Follow us on social media @darknlightzine, or at darknlight.com for episode details and show notes.

Aug 10, 2022 • 54min
Arcx - Lavanya Lakshminarayan
Arcx is all about literary inspiration. In this six episode mini-series, we talk to six South Asian sci fi, fantasy and speculative fiction writers, tracing their ideas from conception to execution. In this episode, we speak to Lavanya Lakshminarayan, award winning author and games designer. Her work is interesting, layered and tackles some really hard topics with ease. We discuss the books that set her on her writing journey, the importance of literary representation, access to technology, and the extremes of productivity culture. Lavanya's debut novel 'Analog/Virtual and other simulations of your future' netted her the Times of India AutHer award and a Valley of Words Award in 2021. She was also a Locus Award finalist and made the longlist for the British Science Fiction Association Awards. Her short fiction has been featured in anthologies like A Flash of Silver-Green, Third-eye and the Gollancz book of south asian science fiction. You can follow Lavanya and learn more about her work on Twitter at lavanya_ln. Arcx is a series of the Subverse, the podcast of Dark 'n' Light, a digital space that chronicles the times we live in and reimagining futures with a focus on science, nature, social justice and culture. Follow us on social media @darknlightzine, or at darknlight.com for episode details and show notes.

Jul 28, 2022 • 51min
Arcx - Shiv Ramdas
Arcx is all about literary inspiration. In this six episode mini-series, we talk to six South Asian sci fi, fantasy and speculative fiction writers, tracing their ideas from conception to execution. We begin the series with author, storyteller and Twitter sensation, Shiv Ramdas. Shiv's work explores serious and often historical themes in nuanced and deft ways. His debut work, India's first mainstream Cyberpunk novel, Domechild was released in 2013. Shiv's short fiction has been featured in Slate, Strange Horizons, Fireside Fiction, Podcastle, and more. In 2020, he was nominated for a Hugo, a Nebula and an Ignyte Award. In this episode, Anjali and Shiv discuss Shiv's influences, AI, magic, and his work-in-progress paranormal PI novel. You can follow Shiv Ramdas on Twitter where he's @nameshiv Arcx is a series of the Subverse, the podcast of Dark 'n' Light, a digital space that chronicles the times we live in and reimagining futures with a focus on science, nature, social justice and culture. Follow us on social media @darknlightzine, or at darknlight.com for episode details and show notes.

Jul 19, 2022 • 2min
Announcing Arcx on The Subverse
At Dark 'n' Light we're deeply interested in stories and the people behind them, and our podcast The Subverse is a fortnightly journey into weird and wonderful conversations with creators and thinkers. Our new six part mini-series Arcx is all about literary inspiration, tracing its roots from conception to execution. We aim to arrive at the root of that inspiration, and find the spark that ignited ideas. We seek to peel away layers of perception, memory, and impressions to find the story, line, characters or even a word that inspired a writer to set forth on their journey. Join us over the course of the next six episodes as we uncover what writers loved, what they hated, and what prompted them to tell their own stories as we dissect art, influences, the process of writing, and what shaped it all. The Subverse is the podcast of Dark 'n' Light, a digital space that chronicles the times we live in and reimagining futures with a focus on science, nature, social justice and culture. Follow us on social media @darknlightzine, or at darknlight.com for episode details and show notes.


