
Two Inconvenient Women
In a world which can feel increasingly volatile and uncertain, join Holly and Rachel from ThoughtBox as we explore some of the inconvenient truths, possibilities and opportunities of our rapidly changing world.Each episode we’ll be diving deep into the big, tricky issues of our time, exploring what it means to be ‘inconvenient’ in our work to transform lives, communities and mindsets towards a healthier future for people and planet.To find out more about the work we do at ThoughtBox Education, visit www.thoughtboxeducation.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

Nov 6, 2024 • 54min
Exploring the inconvenience of Donald Trump
We recorded this podcast on the morning of the US Presidential election results, with Donald Trump re-elected into office for another 4 years. Recognising the enormity of this moment in time, and the wide-rippling influences that US politics and policies have on so much of the world, this conversation felt important to have live and in-the-moment as the results were unfolding.Disclaimer: This is not a political analysis podcast as we are not deconstructing the resonance of the politics or the voting decisions being made. Instead, we wrangle with the complexities of this moment in human history. We explore the inconvenience of nuance in a world fixated on binaries; we discuss the role and resonance of leadership; we reflect on the influences on our cultural narratives and the capacity to keep holding onto active hope in the face of such adversities.In this episode we reference the following:Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - JK Rowling (book)The Fellowship of the Ring - JRR Tolkien (book)The Master and His Emissary - Dr Iain McGilchrist (book)The Divided Brain - Dr Iain McGilchrist (TedTalk)The Peace of Wild Things - Wendell Berry (poem)Yawanawá community elder's headdress - the harpy bird (image) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 1, 2024 • 55min
SPECIAL EPISODE: Stories of Triple WellBeing with Tina Farr and Clare Whyles
This week in the UK it’s the school half term holiday and the ThoughtBox team are slowing down too, taking time for some reading, research and essential time in nature. We aren't recording a podcast this week, so we wanted to take this opportunity to share a gift with you instead. For those of you who haven’t had a chance to check out our other podcast series yet, here is the first episode of Stories of Triple WellBeing® where I’m joined by two other wonderfully inconvenient women - Tina Farr and Clare Whyles of St Ebbe’s School in Oxford, UK sharing how they're positively disrupting their school culture to put Triple WellBeing at the heart of learning.Rachel and I will return again next week for another episode...You can listen to the rest of the Stories of Triple WellBeing® podcast on:✳️ Spotify✳️ Acast✳️ Apple PodcastsAnd most other podcasting platforms.In the episode, we refer to:St Ebbe's Primary SchoolKen Robinson - Do Schools Kill Creativity?ThoughtBox - Transforming Education Leadership SummitDebra Kidd - Pedagogue in ResidenceMatthew Syed - Rebel IdeasOtto Scharmer - The Essentials of Theory UBrené Brown: Listening to shameThoughtBox - Triple WellBeing® FellowshipForest SchoolThe Harmony ProjectOPAL - Outdoor Play and Learning Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 25, 2024 • 57min
Exploring the inconvenience of the stories we tell
In this week's episode we explore the role of stories in shaping the lives we are living. Each of us is born into a story. It forms our perspective on the world, shaped by the culture we're part of, the education we receive and the values and mindsets that we are taught. These stories help us to make sense of the world around us and our place within it and shape the world in which we live. In this episode, we explore the ever-growing appreciation that the dominant story of human progress is actually limiting our capacity to thrive and pushing us into a world of personal, social and ecological crisis. So what happens when we change the story? What other stories are out there, creating healthier futures for people and planet? How can we feed ourselves different stories? What happens when we live our lives by these stories instead? In this episode we reference the following:Three Stories of our Times - Joanna Macy (Website)Two Loops Theory - Berkana Institute (Framework)Do we live in a selfish world - Global Action Plan (Video)Common Cause Foundation (organisation)The Danger of a Single Story - Chimamanda Adiche (Ted Talk)Utopia for Realists (and how we can get there) - Rutger Bregman (book)The Story of Triple WellBeing - Rachel Musson (free ebook)Stories of Triple WellBeing (ThoughtBox podcast)Vinted & Depop (Second hand clothes apps)The Lord of the Rings - J R Tolkein (book)2040 - The Regenerators (documentary)Naughty from Matilda the Musical (song by Tim Minchin) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 18, 2024 • 1h 3min
Exploring the inconvenience of the education system (pt. 1)
In this week's inconvenient conversation we start to unravel some of the challenges, complexities and issues of the education system and why it needs to transform. Diving into the painful truth behind the impact of the education system on our world, and exploring the responses that we're seeing from teachers, pupils and wider societies, join Rachel and Holly as we hold this space with deep care and support for us all in this complex time and these spaces of change, and with celebration for all those out there working to create healthier ways of living and learning together. This won't be the last time we take a dive into the realities and complexities of our education system, so see this as a part one of a series of conversations.During this episode we reference the following:Schooling the World (1 hour documentary)Changing Education Paradigms - Ken Robinson (TED Talk)The Transforming Education Summit (a ThoughtBox programme)Global Action Plan - A three-thirds curriculum (article)The Story of Triple WellBeing (free ebook of research into the education system)Citizens - Jon Alexander (book) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 11, 2024 • 1h 3min
Exploring the inconvenience of unlearning
This week’s conversation explores the idea of ‘unlearning’ and what it means to widen our perspectives, change our minds, shift our behaviours and ‘update’ our knowledge about the world. Unlearning can be something of a provocative term for some people, and yet holds the invitation for us to shift some of the habits, behaviours and mindsets that are contributing to so many of the crises we face in order to enable a healthier future for people and planet.In this conversation we explore some of the different resonances of unlearning in our cultural contexts, think about what and why we need to unlearn, and talk about what it looks like as a process for healthy growth. During this episode we reference the following:The Blind Men and the ElephantThe Death of the Author - Roland BarthesThe Amritsar massacreThe Danger of a Single Story - Chimamanda AdicheControversy around teaching Of Mice & MenDoughnut Economics - Kate RaworthThinking in circles not straight lines - Blogpost (Rachel Musson)Can changing our perspective change everything - Blogpost (Rachel Musson)Neuroplasticity in action (2 minute video)The Work That Reconnects - Joanna MacyFrom domination to restoration - Article (Jon Conradi) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 3, 2024 • 57min
SPECIAL EPISODE: Falling in love with the world
When we allow ourselves to fall in love with the world, everything changes. But sometimes we need someone to help us to fall in love in the first place...This special episode is a dedication to the life, work, wisdom and utter brilliance of Dr Stephan Harding, a globally renowned ecologist, teacher, elder and truly beautiful soul who recently passed away. His work has had a profound influence on both of us and a significant influence on the work we do at ThoughtBox. We therefore wanted to give this episode to Stephan in order to share our appreciation and to reflect a little on some of the magic he weaved during his lifetime; in particular the infectious way he inspired hundreds of thousands of people to fall in love with the world.Dr Stephan Harding | 8th July 1953 - 2nd September 2024In this episode we reference the following:Wild Podcast - Why settling Mars is a really dumb idea - Kelly Weinersmith Why You Want a Physicist to Speak at Your Funeral, Aaron FreemanCosmic Eye video The Deep Time Walk AppOutrage & Optimism Podcast with Dr Stephan HardingHow flowers talk to bees (David Attenborough)Wild Geese - Mary Oliver poem Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 27, 2024 • 1h 8min
Exploring the inconvenience of the mess we're in
This week's conversation opens the box on the multiple crises we're facing in this moment in time. It's big, scary and overwhelming to face up to just some of the things happening around us - and yet not looking and not talking about them is also part of the problem.In this conversation we speak about some of the elephants in the room - from the climate and nature crisis to the genocide in Palestine to the growing global refugee crisis - and the different responses happening around the world. In particular we explore why it is we're not talking about these complex problems and dig into understanding the way our nervous systems are responding. We explore the importance of resourcing and resilience, of partnering our nervous systems and how to find the courage to face the mess we're in and do something about it.DISCLAIMER: This conversation is big, complex and honest. We share it with care for however we're each feeling in the world right now - and with deep consideration of and energy for the capacity that exists to change the stories we're a part of.In this episode we reference the following:The Polyvagal TheoryHow to imagine a better future, TED Talk, adrienne maree brown & Barantunde ThurstonRobin Wall KimmererDr Bonny Badenoch - The Heart of TraumaThe Truth and Reconciliation CommissionWise Goose Coaching Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 20, 2024 • 59min
Exploring the inconvenience of rest
This week's conversation is all about the power of rest to positively disrupt the status quo. Together, Rachel and Holly explore some of the following thoughts:What is rest? Who benefits when we rest? What happens when we stop ‘doing’? How can we be human beings, not just human doings?How is rest an act of resistance against the legacy of colonialism and a capitalist culture? Is rest a privilege?Join us as we wrangle with these and many other ideas over a cup of tea and conversation. During the podcast, we refer to the following:PACTS (a new education initiative empowering UK students to engage in democracy)The Rebelliousness of Rest by Rachel Musson (blog article)Rest is Resistance: Free yourself from grind culture and reclaim your life by Tricia Hersey (book)Bayo Akomolafe (writer and speaker)Frederick by Leo Lionni (children's book)The Language of Emotions by Karla McLaren (book)The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck : A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life by Mark Manson (book)If you'd like to continue the conversation with us, we run a free weekly(ish) group on Thursdays, 13.00-13.30 UK Time, where we explore key questions about co-creating a healthier world for people and planet. It's open to everyone and we'd love to see you there. Find out more at: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/cc/thoughtclub-3671229 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 12, 2024 • 55min
Why be "inconvenient"?
Rachel and Holly launch the Two Inconvenient Women podcast with a conversation about what it means to be "inconvenient" in a society that isn't set up for us to be healthy, resourced and connected. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.