

The Green Building Matters Podcast with Charlie Cichetti
Charlie Cichetti
Do green buildings matter to you? This podcast fuels your fire with inspiring interviews from industry and nonprofit leaders across the built environment.
Not sure if green building matters? Listen to the personal stories of our guests and let Charlie’s passion help convince you why green buildings are essential to our shared future.
Each episode illustrates a unique journey through sustainability and towards resilience. Charlie explores the challenges and celebrations of the movers and shakers in the green building industry.
Hear behind the scene stories from the inner world of green and healthy building design, construction, and management.
Not sure if green building matters? Listen to the personal stories of our guests and let Charlie’s passion help convince you why green buildings are essential to our shared future.
Each episode illustrates a unique journey through sustainability and towards resilience. Charlie explores the challenges and celebrations of the movers and shakers in the green building industry.
Hear behind the scene stories from the inner world of green and healthy building design, construction, and management.
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Jul 21, 2021 • 43min
Founders of Alter Eco -- Joe Lombardi and Brian Falcon
Joe Lombardi is a registered architect in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland, Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York, Michigan & Florida. He is a member of the American Institute of Architects, Pennsylvania Society of Architects and holds certifications from the National Council of Architectural Registration Boards (NCARB) as well as Leadership in Energy & Environmental Design Certification (LEED AP). He graduated Cum Laude with a BArch degree from Temple University in 1987 and received his first state architectural registration in 1989. At a young age he discovered an interest in the process of conceiving an idea, putting it on paper and implementing the construction of it in both practical form (designing and building speaker cabinets and musical instrument road cases) and artistic expression (wood carving, sketching & jewelry making). While also developing a business sense by selling these items to local musicians and in local shops. Joe’s architectural career was fueled by a passion for the investigation and development of the use of new and underutilized existing proven products and technologies which increased comfort, while providing energy and construction efficiency in Residential and Commercial design & construction. Over the past 26 years of architectural practice he has been able to balance the ability to provide services to a homeowner wanting to renovate their home to meet the changing needs of their family as well as a large commercial client that is expanding a several hundred thousand square foot entertainment venue. He attributes this to the sense of teamwork that is promoted between the owner, contractor and architect as well as listening intently to the client’s needs in order to reach the programmatic, aesthetic and budgetary goals for the project. He has Implemented and managed office CAD systems, created and managed Master Detail Library & Project File database systems and developed and maintained a proprietary specification & contractor database system. He served as adjunct staff at Philadelphia University from 1997 to 1998 where he taught a 3d CAD visualization course. He also has studied guitar, recorded and performed original music in and around the Philadelphia area for over 40 years with notable shows at the World Café & Troc Theaters in Philadelphia and The World Café Queen Theater in Delaware. He is a husband for over 28 years and father of two children. Brian Falcon has always been passionate about sustainable living and design. He is a registered architect in Pennsylvania, and became a Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design Accredited Professional (LEED®AP) in 2004, to focus professionally on sustainability and energy efficiency. In 2008, he founded the Berks/Lancaster Green Building Association to help local, like-minded professionals collectively expand their green building skills at the grassroots level. Most recently, Brian has become a Certified Passive House Consultant (CPHC), as certified through the Passive House Institute US (PHIUS). This program incorporates high performance building science principles and passive house techniques to create the best path to Net Zero and Net Positive Energy buildings. To improve the efficiency of project design and construction processes, Brian is highly experienced with Building Information Modeling (BIM) software. BIM is used to create a digital 3-dimensional representation of a project with multiple layers of intelligent data which may be analyzed at any time during the design, construction or occupancy phase of a building. Building the project virtually ensures accuracy and improves the understanding how building components and assemblies work together, which greatly reduces “unknowns” and other inefficiencies during construction. In addition, BIM provides a highly effective way for those not used to reading conventional construction drawings to feel fully engaged as part of the design team. Brian is married with four children. He is a nationally licensed soccer coach and has coached all four kids. The family enjoys camping and connecting with nature whenever possible. At home Brian leads the family in exploring the world of permaculture to learn how to live more holistically by designing and building fun and multi-functional projects on their property which provide food, energy, aesthetics and natural habitat for beneficial animals. Show Highlights Zero energy readiness. Alter Eco’s success, selection process, and standard/program choices. Passive House vs Net Zero Ready Homes for advanced energy modeling. Best practices, programs(LEED, Passive House, DOE), certification and chapter benefits. Misconceptions on implementing sustainable programs, how architects can steer the ship, and the concept of trade ops. Advantages of having architects who can simplify details with sustainability in mind during the building process. Trends of a 2,500 sq home feeling like a 4,000 sqm. Electrification and designing all electric buildings and homes. Selecting prefabbed, cut off site, more modular components or whole systems on projects. “We kind of proved in our first homes that we built, that we can achieve this level of a home at the same cost as a code-built stick-built home.” -Joe Lombardi “If you're excited and passionate about sustainability or preservation, whatever it is wholeheartedly, chase that down with every ounce of energy you have. You might sound goofy sometimes asking questions you think are silly or, or whatever. I would say don't ever fear that. Embrace that. Embrace the beginner's mind, whatever you're doing, because it's only going to help you learn along the way and be more successful.” -Brian Falcon Joe Lombardi & Brian Falcon’s Show Resource and Information Connect with Charlie Cichetti and GBES GBES is excited our membership community is growing. Consider joining our membership community as members are given access to some of the guests on the podcasts that you can ask project questions. If you are preparing for an exam, there will be more assurance that you will pass your next exam, you will be given cliff notes if you are a member, and so much more. Go to to learn more about the 4 different levels of access to this one-of-a-kind career-advancing green building community! If you truly enjoyed the show, don't forget to leave a positive rating and review on . We have prepared more episodes for the upcoming weeks, so come by again next week! Thank you for tuning in to the ! Copyright © 2021 GBES

Jul 14, 2021 • 47min
Regenerative Practitioner and Living Future Hero Emmanuel Pauwels
Emmanuel Pauwels is a Regenerative Practitioner (a person actively engaged in developing themselves and their practice with the capacity to create entities and processes that are ongoingly regenerative). He is a highly communicative, practical, and reliable individual who lives in the world of the five senses. He is curious and needs mental variety in life. He has an analytical and critical side and is an eternal student, enjoying rapport and exchanging ideas with people. He is ambitious, enjoys material comfort and everything sensual and nature-related. When we look at the way we design and build our buildings, the only way forward is by creating good green buildings. Buildings that lead to improved health for homeowners, reduced impact on the environment and profit for the building industry. Emmanuel is a strong believer in a new paradigm for the Real Estate Industry which is based on trust based team formation, early collaboration, built-in sustainability and transformational leadership. Show Highlights Regenerative Design practical tools and the course work you should explore. Popular construction materials in the USA, but not in Europe. Emmanuel talks about his companies: Green Living Projects and Green Living Education. Regenerative resorts that redefine tourism for systemic change. Reconnect urban and rural environments to build new meaning and relationships. Creating a network to build eco villages to enhance any project. Avoid the temptation of chasing points and certifications to benefit your projects. Understanding the levels and technology it takes to complete a Living Building Challenge project from a Living Future Hero. CAL GUERXO is a small house with a big impact you must see. Conversations with clients are more about what is the value that you are seeking? How can we provide value? Is there certification that can certification add value to your project? That's the important question. “You can regenerate everything, your relationship, your life, whatever project you're working on in your career. It's more about what happens in the place than the actual built infrastructure. How does it impact humans? What’s the social impact of communities? What new interaction do you develop with nature? You realize that the building is a catalyst for something else to happen.” -Emmanel Pauwels Emmanuel Pauwels’ Show Resource and Information Cal Guerxo- -Green Living Projects Connect with Charlie Cichetti and GBES GBES is excited our membership community is growing. Consider joining our membership community as members are given access to some of the guests on the podcasts that you can ask project questions. If you are preparing for an exam, there will be more assurance that you will pass your next exam, you will be given cliff notes if you are a member, and so much more. Go to to learn more about the 4 different levels of access to this one-of-a-kind career-advancing green building community! If you truly enjoyed the show, don't forget to leave a positive rating and review on . We have prepared more episodes for the upcoming weeks, so come by again next week! Thank you for tuning in to the ! Copyright © 2021 GBES

Jul 7, 2021 • 27min
Wellness Real Estate Professional Amy D’Angelo
Amy D'Angelo is a wellness real estate professional with over 15 years of experience. Her wide range of interests over the years have included launching a healthy food business to managing facilities for an international non-profit. Her current passion is focusing on helping busy professionals and families achieve wellness at home by creating simple and affordable strategies that are based on the best practices of the wellness real estate movement. Amy believes that by making small and positive changes, in our homes, in the food we eat or the ways that we handle stress, we can inspire those around to live a healthier, more fulfilled life. Show Highlights Holistic living and wellness best practices you need to know. Taking stock of these items will help you live healthier and make your home healthy. Achieving FitWell Ambasador and WELL AP credentials will set your career on a good course. The Home Wellness Project, creates wellness in the home with air, water and your circadian rhythm. Merging tips from Wellness Real Estate Initiatives and expert tips on what works in our homes to connect with nature and naturally reduce stress. The simple things that now we really want to pay a little closer attention to. Why the Healthy Building Initiative will bleed more into individual homes. Simple things that will really positively impact your week. “There is a passion within me to say, ‘Other people need to do this for themselves at home.’ Wellness shouldn't be contained to buildings where you spend maybe 25% of your time. We really need to see how to share with people what they can do to make their homes safer and healthier for themselves and their loved ones.” -Amy D’Angelo Amy D’Angelo’s Show Resource and Information Connect with Charlie Cichetti and GBES GBES is excited our membership community is growing. Consider joining our membership community as members are given access to some of the guests on the podcasts that you can ask project questions. If you are preparing for an exam, there will be more assurance that you will pass your next exam, you will be given cliff notes if you are a member, and so much more. Go to to learn more about the 4 different levels of access to this one-of-a-kind career-advancing green building community! If you truly enjoyed the show, don't forget to leave a positive rating and review on . We have prepared more episodes for the upcoming weeks, so come by again next week! Thank you for tuning in to the ! Copyright © 2021 GBES

Jul 1, 2021 • 32min
Historic Preservation Specialist & LEED Fellow Jean Carroon
Being one of nine principals leading the design firm of Goody Clancy in Boston, MA, Jean is passionate about the opportunities inherent in the stewardship and creative reuse of existing buildings to shape a healthy, resilient world. Goody Clancy is an architecture, planning and preservation firm serving educational, governmental, and private sector clients and communities nationwide. We collaborate with clients to design and plan buildings, campuses and communities that express their aspirations, inspire creativity and collaboration, and build social, economic and environmental value. My professional focus on existing buildings includes leading a team that helps clients and the public connect historic legacies to current realities and future possibilities. We combine a deep respect for and knowledge of history and building technology with a talent for transforming places-redefining their relevance, utility, and flexibility while sustaining and enhancing essential beauty and value. Show Highlights Boston architecture is endlessly interesting with a succession of unique work. The East is filled with a wonderful repository of existing buildings that are valued for their heritage. The landmark project that shaped Jean’s career for over 20 years. “The building that put American architecture on the map” and launched The Richardson Romanesque Movement. The first GeoExchange System. Specializing in preservation is critical to the green building movement. Essential to focus on both Embodied Energy and Embodied water. Buildings are the biggest objects that must be reused. Two year payback that will bring down carbon emissions and meet the goals of the Paris Agreement. Jean is seeking case studies from listeners who have done embodied carbon calculations against operational carbonet. “Remember that building reuse is the most powerful climate action that there is. Reduce, reuse, recycle. Let's reuse our largest objects, and those are our buildings! Let's reuse them with grace, talent, and joy.” -Jean Carroon Jean Carroon’s Show Resource and Information Connect with Charlie Cichetti and GBES GBES is excited our membership community is growing. Consider joining our membership community as members are given access to some of the guests on the podcasts that you can ask project questions. If you are preparing for an exam, there will be more assurance that you will pass your next exam, you will be given cliff notes if you are a member, and so much more. Go to to learn more about the 4 different levels of access to this one-of-a-kind career-advancing green building community! If you truly enjoyed the show, don't forget to leave a positive rating and review on . We have prepared more episodes for the upcoming weeks, so come by again next week! Thank you for tuning in to the ! Copyright © 2021 GBES

Jun 23, 2021 • 28min
SIG’s Senior Energy Consultant Dallas Terry
Dallas Terry is a sustainability professional with a successful track record of driving excellence in projects and programs to achieve ROI and reduce environmental impacts. His real interest lies in those ideas, projects, and businesses that entail innovative, intelligent and collaborative designs that improve the bottom line and make a meaningful impact on improving the status quo. Dallas has served as Cushman Wakefield’s Sustainability Manager where he served PG&E’s corporate real estate organization to help create and execute a robust sustainability strategy and drive performance across their portfolio of >250 sites where he worked cross functionally with strategy, projects, facilities and other teams to facilitate “sustainable” decision-making in key aspects of the real estate value chain: Advising CRE leadership on industry, state and local trends and guiding program direction Leading analysis of GHG emissions reduction scenarios in support of long term goal setting Engaging stakeholders in development of sustainability standards and behavior change campaigns Oversight of LEED program with >10 new construction and existing building projects including multiple Net Zero Energy projects Managing >$5M in energy efficiency projects across multiple sites with >$850k/yr. in estimated savings. Dallas has also worked with companies to help coach them through a comprehensive curriculum that allows them to embed sustainability into multiple dimensions of their businesses, guiding them to develop Sustainability action plans consisting of cost and resource saving projects. Specialties: Program Management, Project Management, Strategic Business Planning, Feasibility Studies, Energy Efficiency, Water Conservation, Integrated Waste Management Renewable Energy, Financial Modeling, Business Development, Risk Assessments, LEED Certification, Carbon Reporting, Stakeholder Engagement Show Highlights Special training in conducting feasibility studies for renewable energy projects, solar and wind. A peek at mandates and markets in different cities. Pro tips on working from home or working remotely. Hitting the milestones that we need to hit by say 2030 and beyond. Real estate portfolios strategy to truly build a net zero portfolio. The parallels between soccer and business to get the right group of people working together to achieve a common goal. What are the right roadmaps to help orchestrate and plan net zero projects and programs? “Getting started early, I think is really key. It's what you hear all the time, but it's really true. Like anyone, I would be even further than I am right now if I'd just gotten a little start a little bit earlier, or if I had found some valuable internships earlier. Be willing to say, ‘It's okay to start as an intern’ with low pay. It's going to help put some milestones on your resume and help you to level-up beyond that." -Dallas Terry Dallas Terry’s Show Resource and Information Connect with Charlie Cichetti and GBES GBES is excited our membership community is growing. Consider joining our membership community as members are given access to some of the guests on the podcasts that you can ask project questions. If you are preparing for an exam, there will be more assurance that you will pass your next exam, you will be given cliff notes if you are a member, and so much more. Go to to learn more about the 4 different levels of access to this one-of-a-kind career-advancing green building community! If you truly enjoyed the show, don't forget to leave a positive rating and review on . We have prepared more episodes for the upcoming weeks, so come by again next week! Thank you for tuning in to the ! Copyright © 2021 GBES

Jun 16, 2021 • 36min
Egypt's LEED Fellow & Edge Auditor Karim Farah
LEED Fellow, experienced Sustainability Manager with a demonstrated history of working in the design industry. Skilled in Sustainability, Sustainable Architecture, Environmental Awareness, Sustainable Design, and Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED). Strong community and social services professional with a Bachelor’s of Urban Planning focused in the Faculty of Engineering - Ain Shams University. Collège de la Sainte Famille. Show Highlights The DAR group’s conglomerate of many companies to promote an international experience. Being the first, LEED AP in Asia. Difficulties and techniques to build a green building in Egypt. The need for various rating systems applied on projects in Egypt (Qatar, QSAS, GSAS and EDGE). EDGE provides Egypt with something that is easier and simpler to apply to complex builds. Avoid pricing LEED out of the projects with poor consulting advice Karim shares difficulties working in a large firm with his unique career experience. Changing the level of awareness of green and healthy building in Egypt “If you want to be good at something, really know it! Don't pretend that you know about it, but get to know it so that when you are tested, you can show your methods. Don't pretend, don't move to trends because the trends change. Follow your passion. Really follow your passion and get a lot of knowledge about it - more than anybody else, and become the person to go to. Then you will not be afraid to give your knowledge to other people because you will be moving forward.” -Karim Farah Karim Farah’s Show Resource and Information Connect with Charlie Cichetti and GBES GBES is excited our membership community is growing. Consider joining our membership community as members are given access to some of the guests on the podcasts that you can ask project questions. If you are preparing for an exam, there will be more assurance that you will pass your next exam, you will be given cliff notes if you are a member, and so much more. Go to to learn more about the 4 different levels of access to this one-of-a-kind career-advancing green building community! If you truly enjoyed the show, don't forget to leave a positive rating and review on . We have prepared more episodes for the upcoming weeks, so come by again next week! Thank you for tuning in to the ! Copyright © 2021 GBES

Jun 9, 2021 • 44min
GBES Wellness at Home Series - How To Improve Your Indoor Air Quality
Amy D'Angelo is a wellness real estate professional with over 15 years of experience. Her wide range of interests over the years have included launching a health food business to managing facilities for an international non-profit. Her current passion is focusing on helping busy professionals achieve wellness at home by creating simple strategies that are based on the best practices of the wellness real estate movement. She continually strives to inspire positive change in the people around me. Show Highlights Setting up our buildings and homes to be designed, built, and operated green. The largest contributors to air pollution inside our homes. Shift towards healthy buildings or “wellness real estate”. Greenwashing products. Dangers of synthetic chemical fragrance blends. One of the most effective ways to improve our indoor air quickly. Five areas of pollutants you can see an immediate improvement . Being conscious about the different tweaks we can make in our day to day. Help reduce air pollutants inside your home. Ventilation’s big impact on our indoor air quality. GBS and wellness at home series. “When we look at our indoor air quality, I think one of the many, many things that COVID-19 has taught us is that the air we breathe matters. Air pollution is the number one environmental cause of premature death and our indoor spaces like our home and our workspaces can be up to five times more polluted than the air outside.” -Amy D’Angelo Amy D’Angelo’s Show Resource and Information Connect with Charlie Cichetti and GBES GBES is excited our membership community is growing. Consider joining our membership community as members are given access to some of the guests on the podcasts that you can ask project questions. If you are preparing for an exam, there will be more assurance that you will pass your next exam, you will be given cliff notes if you are a member, and so much more. Go to to learn more about the 4 different levels of access to this one-of-a-kind career-advancing green building community! If you truly enjoyed the show, don't forget to leave a positive rating and review on . We have prepared more episodes for the upcoming weeks, so come by again next week! Thank you for tuning in to the ! Copyright © 2021 GBES

Jun 2, 2021 • 37min
Head of LEED in Europe - GBCI’s Kay Killmann
Kay Killmann is Managing Director of GBCI Europe, focusing on promoting LEED & Arc and its successful integration into European's real estate industry. He collaborates extensively with other European GBCs, building and strengthening relationships as well as local LEED knowledge. Having worked for over 15 years as an architect and consultant in the US, UK and Germany, Kay leverages his depth of professional experiences in building certification, construction and design to engage GBCI Europe's diverse stakeholders. His activities in sustainability education range from developing and teaching professional programs at Universities to implementing the Green Apple Day program at Bavarian grammar schools. Kay is also the co-founder of the German Green Building Association (GGBA), a non-profit established in 2012 and advocating LEED and other GBCI benchmarks in Germany and the DACH region. Kay earned an engineering degree in architecture from the University of Applied Science at Aachen, Germany. Curiosity, and a bit of wanderlust, led him to California where he gained invaluable architecture experience. In 2006, Kay eagerly embarked on the LEED path, grateful to have found a career match for his sustainability passion. He grew up in East Germany, a utopia for sustainability where a shortage of basic goods meant 'reuse and recycle' was the everyday way of life. Kay is working hard to bring those principles back to society – without the oppressive political regime. His sustainability efforts extend far beyond the office. He is an avid bike commuter, up-cycler, urban gardener and diligent father constantly reminding his kids to "turn off the lights." Show Highlights Becoming a member of the international round table. How GBCI Europe, grows to support programs, tools and certifications? Kay advocates for all the great programs and their benefits to specific projects. GGBA became a strategic green building partner with these tips. Putting yourself in positions of luck. Certifications that support Europe’s highly competitive market. The urban tools for cities and communities. LEED for cities has a framework and communities scorecard to measure social aspects. “A single building is one thing, but having an entire framework overlaid across an urban development, be it a new one or an existing one. That’s where we can have much more of an impact. This is really starting to grow and it’s fun!” - Kay Killmann Kay Killmann’s Show Resource and Information Connect with Charlie Cichetti and GBES GBES is excited our membership community is growing. Consider joining our membership community as members are given access to some of the guests on the podcasts that you can ask project questions. If you are preparing for an exam, there will be more assurance that you will pass your next exam, you will be given cliff notes if you are a member, and so much more. Go to to learn more about the 4 different levels of access to this one-of-a-kind career-advancing green building community! If you truly enjoyed the show, don't forget to leave a positive rating and review on . We have prepared more episodes for the upcoming weeks, so come by again next week! Thank you for tuning in to the ! Copyright © 2021 GBES

May 27, 2021 • 33min
Interview with Material Chemical Expert Dr. Marilyn Black
Dr. Marilyn Black is vice president and senior technical advisor for Underwriters Laboratories, leading its research group Chemical Insights. She is the founder and former chairperson for both UL Air Quality Sciences and the GREENGUARD Environmental Institute. She is also the founder of the Khaos Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to protecting the health and well-being of children through education and research. Dr. Black is an active participant in national and international scientific organizational initiatives, research projects and community outreach programs, and has presented and published over 200 papers on indoor air quality and environmental exposure. She received a Ph.D from the Georgia Institute of Technology, M.S. from the University of Florida and B.S from University of Virginia. Show Highlights THE pioneer on healthy material, indoor air quality and understanding the impact environmental pollution has on people's health. Programs and certifications to manage and ensure use of healthy materials for healthy buildings for people. One of the most toxic chemical agents identified and the dramatic impact on human health. Emerging technologies to manage unintentional consequences of toxins put into products as a byproduct of the manufacturing. Active research on emerging topics, developing data, and developing knowledge to help solve pollution, exposure opportunities, and develop approaches for reducing human health risk in current product trends. GreenGuard Certification Program understanding what was impacting the air quality negatively. The need to combate tremendous amounts of waste among these materials. Integrated systems with the ability to monitor aspects of people's responses while they're in buildings for the best outcome. Improving the product formulations for safer products and replacements for those chemicals and products. “How you use the information you learn in research and discovery is how to make a change. That’s how to make a difference. Research for the sake of research, does not move the needle. You have to learn; you have to do something with your information to move that needle and to cause change.’” -Marilyn Black Marilyn Black’s Show Resource and Information Connect with Charlie Cichetti and GBES GBES is excited our membership community is growing. Consider joining our membership community as members are given access to some of the guests on the podcasts that you can ask project questions. If you are preparing for an exam, there will be more assurance that you will pass your next exam, you will be given cliff notes if you are a member, and so much more. Go to to learn more about the 4 different levels of access to this one-of-a-kind career-advancing green building community! If you truly enjoyed the show, don't forget to leave a positive rating and review on . We have prepared more episodes for the upcoming weeks, so come by again next week! Thank you for tuning in to the ! Copyright © 2021 GBES

May 19, 2021 • 25min
Material Technology and Eco Serial Entrepreneur Glen Finkel
Co-Founder of 3 New Material Technology Firms / Advisor to 4 New Material Technology Firms BLUE Wave advocate - the BLUE Wave is the host of advanced material companies with the breakthrough technology that can help return our planet to BLUE skies and BLUE water Previously employed as senior executive in soft goods Industries for 15 years - building and sourcing brands on a global basis. Specialties: Business Development, Sales and Marketing, Commercializing New Material Technologies, Public Speaking on Innovation Show Highlights Categorizing material technology. Understanding the science and advanced material technologies. Air purification technology. Science of photocatalysis. How surfaces can be self-cleaning, bio protective and air purifying. PURETi’s breakthrough technologies ready for prime time. Innovative material technology that will impact architecture. Leading indicators we need to reverse rapidly. Toledo Solar’s impact to green building in 2 years. The 4th R that needs to be added to Redudu, Reuse and Recycle. The future of how nano-sensors will interact with everything to make life more efficient and enjoyable. A new circular economy that integrates nature into completing broken cycles and the tremendous impact it will have on design. “The 20th century was the century of chemistry and the 21st century is going to be the century of biology and biomimetics, and helping nature restore balance.” -Glen Finkel Glen Finkel’s Show Resource and Information Connect with Charlie Cichetti and GBES GBES is excited our membership community is growing. Consider joining our membership community as members are given access to some of the guests on the podcasts that you can ask project questions. If you are preparing for an exam, there will be more assurance that you will pass your next exam, you will be given cliff notes if you are a member, and so much more. Go to to learn more about the 4 different levels of access to this one-of-a-kind career-advancing green building community! If you truly enjoyed the show, don't forget to leave a positive rating and review on . We have prepared more episodes for the upcoming weeks, so come by again next week! Thank you for tuning in to the ! Copyright © 2021 GBES