

More Train, Less Pain; Engineering the Adaptable Athlete
Dr. Michelle Boland & Dr. Tim Richardt
The More Train, Less Pain podcast is hosted by Dr. Michelle Boland and Dr. Tim Richardt and is specifically designed around engineering the adaptable athlete. The podcast will bring you the most knowledgeable guests in the fields of strength and conditioning and physical therapy, as well as episodes consisting of topic “deep-dives”. Our aim is to elevate YOUR understanding as a movement professional, to give you the knowledge, and the tools to deliver an even better service to your people, whoever they may be.
Episodes
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Mar 14, 2022 • 1h 22min
S2E6: Debriefing (Effortless) Movement, Mitigating Injury Risk, and Listener Questions with Zac Cupples
Warn your dog, double-reserve the stairmaster, or intentionally drive into traffic because this is a good one that you are NOT gonna want to stop listening to. Tim chats with Mr. Movement Debriefer, old school course reviewer, El Z Mas Gigantico, Big Z, Zac Cupples himself on topics such as;
Is Zac Old Kanye or New Kanye? Would Tim make a good hype man?
Zac’s alternate profession.
The evolution of Zac’s practice and interests over the past year.
Managing the dreaded “Swayback” posture.
Increasing degrees of freedom and appreciating “effortless” movement as a rehabilitation strategy.
Ranges of motion, movement skills, or workload?
Using client goals to drive long term programming decisions.
Structured mobility drills versus unstructured play for ROM improvement.
The value of cultivating non-lifting, non-running movement practices.
Balancing training alone versus leveraging social interaction during team and group training.
Zac’s ninja training and solo wall ball.
Zac and Tim’s “low hanging fruits” in injury prevention for athletes.
Zac’s treatment philosophy in 2 sentences.
Which 25% of how we currently practice might be incorrect?
Rapid Fire and Listener Q&A.
Whether you’re looking to gain a deeper understanding of biomechanics, attempt to contextualize breathing drills within a training program, or simply find out how Zac keeps his head so shiny, this episode has something for YOU! If you enjoyed it, it’d mean the world to Tim and Michelle if you can subscribe, review, or share what they’re doing here.
Show Notes
Zac’s Kettlebell Arm Bar for Shoulder Mobility
The Darkside of the Movement Profession (Tim interviewing Zac Round 1)
Zac’s current facility- Elevate Sports and Performance in LV
ZacCupples.com
Anterior Pelvic Tilt versus Swayback- What’s the Difference?
Spikeball
Connect with Michelle & Tim: @dr.michelleboland @tim_richardt_dpt
MTLP is sponsored by ANCORE. Use code MTLP at checkout and save 10% off the ANCORE PRO https://ancoretraining.com/

Mar 7, 2022 • 56min
S2E5: Finding Exercise Solutions with Dr. Sarah Duvall
We all have clients and athletes that are dealing with some nagging movement issues, so join us in exploring some CORE solutions. Dr. Sarah Duvall joins MTLP to chat about EXERCISE considerations and assessing the whole body to find a SOLUTION. Get ready to improve your coaching tool box with pelvic floor, pressure management, and CORE EXERCISE SOLUTIONS! Physical Therapists and Coaches, you are going to dig this episode! Listen, download, subscribe, and tell your friends... Related Content: Postural Restoration Institute, Gary Gray: Functional Training, Stuart McGill: Core Training and Low Back Pain, Shirley Sahrmann: Approach to Movement Impairments Connect with Dr. Sarah Duvall: Core Exercise Solutions Website: https://www.coreexercisesolutions.com/ Free Educational Courses: https://www.coreexercisesolutions.com/free-courses/ Blog: https://www.coreexercisesolutions.com/articles/ Instagram @drsarahduvall Connect with Michelle & Tim: @dr.michelleboland @tim_richardt_dpt

Feb 28, 2022 • 58min
S2E4: Navigating Chaos and Order in Physical Preparation with Joel Smith
Tim sits down with Mr. Elastic himself, the Usain Bolt of the fitness podcasting world, Just Fly Sports Performance’s Joel Smith, for some free flowing discussion pertaining to play, structure, jump training, learning, and engagement. If you’re a trainer or therapist looking to find out the answers to these questions…
How do Joel and Tim approach toe’d out feet in athletes from a health and performance perspective?
What’re the “use cases” of barefoot training and orthotics, respectively?
What’re the easiest ways to integrate plyometric and jump training into the programming of a general population client?
Where does “play” fit in in the context of an athlete’s training session or training week?
Can there be such a thing as “too much” structure in training?
What do machine learning and human motor learning have in common?
What do the terms “ancestral” and “transhumanistic” have anything to do with the world of physical preparation?
What KPIs do Joel and Tim care about MOST in ensuring long term client success?
…then give this episode of the More Train, Less Pain podcast a listen!
Related Content:
@justflysports
https://www.just-fly-sports.com/
Speed Strength
Elastic Essentials
The Reactive Strength Index
Adarian Barr, Rafe Kelley

Feb 21, 2022 • 1h 5min
S2E3: Programmapalooza: Michelle Goes SOLO with Dr. Campo
Dive into a whirlwind of exercise techniques like ninja rolling and bunny hops! Discover the nitty-gritty of personalized fitness programming, emphasizing patience and adaptation. Explore the complexities of pain management and effective coaching strategies. Learn the differences between chin-ups and pull-ups, plus advanced weight training techniques to enhance performance. With a sprinkle of humor and fitness banter, this conversation is packed with insights for athletes eager to diversify their training!

Feb 14, 2022 • 1h 14min
S2E2: David Grey on “Feet Out”, Sensorimotor Training, and Sausage Dogs
Join David Grey and Tim as they hop on the magic biomechanical school bus of learning to attempt to parse out exactly how important straight feet are with running, the silliness of the “knees out” cue with squatting, integrating floor-based respiration drills with serious weight room s^%t, and a deep dive into the Standard Irish diet.
Show notes
0:00 Portugal Holidays, wiener dogs, and the angry doge
2:55 Does foot turn out give you diabetes?
12:30 Remote client assessment and the prioritization of treatment strategies
22:00 “Straight feet” is “knees out” and “knees out” is “straight feet”
30:00 Integrating strength/power drills with sensorimotor activities
40:00 Comprehensive program design
47:30 The tradeoff of weight room strength
51:00 NOT plugging lower body basics
59:36 The secrets of IG marketing for rehab pros
65:00 Just kidding, it’s consistency
66:45 The Irish food pyramid
David Grey IG @davidgreyrehab David Grey website https://davidgreyrehab.com/
Connect with Michelle & Tim: @dr.michelleboland @tim_richardt_dpt

Feb 7, 2022 • 53min
S2E1: The Random Show Season 2 Kickoff
We are BACK! Season 2 kicks off with Michelle and Tim running through some random topics such as huge life changes since Season 1 ended, new interests, thoughts on micro dosing, and all things to get you training more in less pain. Listen, download, subscribe, and tell your friends... Related Content: Dr. Mike Camporini, Eric Schmitt, Quadrant System by Daniel Bove, Cory Schlesinger, & Joel Smith Just Fly Performance Podcast Episode #280. Connect with Michelle & Tim: @dr.michelleboland @tim_richardt_dpt

May 30, 2021 • 60min
S1E16: Tequilathon: Season One Throughlines & Takeaways
Shed a tear and drink a tequila along with Michelle and Tim as they bid farewell to Season One of More Train, Less Pain. They’ll each count down their Top 3 “Throughlines and Takeaways” from the incredible guests they’ve been joined by thus far, as well as inject the usual degree of nonsense in the form of “Season One Superlatives”.
What habits, tactics, and thought-processes got repeated over and over by multiple leaders in the fields of S&C and PT? What topics were most impactful to Michelle and Tim’s respective practices? What Season One guest would they LEAST like to face in an impromptu, back-alley powerlifting meet? All these questions (and MORE) answered on the FINAL episode of Season 1 of More Train, Less Pain; Engineering the Adaptable Athlete.

May 24, 2021 • 58min
S1E15: Total Request (not) Live; Listener Q&A
Get ready for some MUCH anticipated Q&A. Fine listeners from all over the world have submitted excellent Q’s. Michelle and Tim do their damndest to A ‘em. On this episode they’ll tackle such topics as;
K-tape
Overdoing fitness
Making rehab fun (again!)
Over-complicating strength and conditioning
The SFMA
Managing contradictory treatment models
Desert island exercise(s)
How to MENTOR
Michelle’s bench press numbers
If you’ve liked Season 1 of More Train, Less Pain thus far, you’ll LOVE this episode. Tune in next week for the SEASON ONE FINALE, which will be the premier of both “Boozy Podcasting” AND “Season Superlatives”.

May 17, 2021 • 1h 13min
S1E14: Programmapalooza! Michelle goes SOLO with Erik Huddleston
Oscillatory isometrics, curtsy lunges, load placement, and asymmetrical respiratory cueing- Oh My!
In this episode, Michelle leaves Tim behind and goes SOLO to get into the real nitty gritty with her coach and Director of Performance at IFast, Erik Huddleston.
Erik answers specific questions about programming for Michelle and they dive into four phases of training. They discuss the benefits of coaches having coaches, how question prompting is an opportunity to learn, overall views towards program design, and specific exercise execution. You are going to dig this episode!
Listen, download, subscribe, and tell your friends...

May 10, 2021 • 53min
S1E13: Darkside of the Movement Profession, Tim SOLO with Zac Cupples on THE Zac Cupples Show
Michelle and Tim here! On this episode Tim flies solo AGAIN with the man, the legend, the LARGEST of Z’s, Dr. Zac Cupples. Tim and Zac discuss how improving movement options is legit, but at what cost? We know that this breathing stuff works, but are there drawbacks to this approach? Can we really make the changes “stick?”
Tim and Zac also sift through, How Zac structures his own training, What's better, time management or energy management?, What is Zac’s biggest failure?, The dichotomy of the type A personality, Movement behaviors: How do we get them to "stick", The dark side of internal cueing, AND the best way to communicate effectively to clients.
Get ready to enter the darkside to all this movement stuff…Subscribe, download, listen, and learn!