
More Train, Less Pain; Engineering the Adaptable Athlete
The More Train, Less Pain podcast is hosted by Dr. Michelle Boland and Dr. Tim Richardt and is specifically designed around engineering the adaptable athlete. The podcast will bring you the most knowledgeable guests in the fields of strength and conditioning and physical therapy, as well as episodes consisting of topic “deep-dives”. Our aim is to elevate YOUR understanding as a movement professional, to give you the knowledge, and the tools to deliver an even better service to your people, whoever they may be.
Latest episodes

Apr 14, 2025 • 44min
S5E21: Surgery Sucks; 5 Ways to Make It Suck Less
In this episode, we count down Dr. Tim’s top 5 recommendations for optimizing post-operative recovery. From the efficacy (?) of icing and maintaining the right mindset to challenging outdated time-based protocols, we break down what truly helps speed healing. We also explore the tactical use of assistive devices (and what this has to do with Atomic Habits) and strategies for maintaining fitness during recovery. Whether you're recovering from surgery or supporting someone who is, these tips will help you navigate the journey with confidence.
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact
Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt

Apr 7, 2025 • 1h 11min
S5E20: Derek Hansen- Should ALL Runners Sprint?
What can distance runners learn from sprinters? Speed expert Derek Hansen joins us to break it down. We dive into his 10x10 protocol for hamstring recovery, the power of “up” vs. “push” in sprinting, and the balance between individualized mechanics and a universal technical model. Plus, why all runners—yes, even distance runners—need to sprint. Don’t miss this one!
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact
Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt

Mar 31, 2025 • 51min
S5E19: Reframing 3 Narratives Holding Your Clients Back
On today’s episode Michelle and Tim explore narratives in the fitness industry that can both help facilitate change or create limitations. In this episode we discuss how your clients create stories around an identity, how you can help change those stories, how to supply your clients with evidence for confidence, why ‘should’ statements aren’t useful, obsessions with diagnoses, and practical strategies for helping your clients author their own stories.
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact
Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt

Mar 24, 2025 • 56min
S5E18: Sarah Scozzaro - Strength Training for the Endurance Athlete
On today’s episode Michelle RUNS through topics related to strength training for endurance athletes with Pro Coach Sarah Scozzaro. Sarah specializes in ultrarunning while both coaching athletes and competing in several 100 mile,100k and 50 mile events herself. On today’s episode, expect to learn why strength training is rising in the ultrarunning world, how to get runners started in the weight room, why all runners need to be good hing-ers, and why coaches should take some of the thinking out of strength training for athletes.
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact
Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt

Mar 17, 2025 • 1h 6min
S5E17: Top 10 Business Mistakes for Trainers & Therapists - Money, Strategies, & Having a Vision
On today’s episode Michelle and Tim sit down to hash out past business mistakes, lessons, and advice for other fitness pros and physical therapists. We love diving down biomechanical rabbit holes and talking about exercise selection for hours, but if you aren’t creating a successful business your days may be numbered. In today's episode, expect to learn why you should schedule follow-ups, why you should assess marketing strategies, why a recurring offer is a good idea, why you should stop being threatened by other professionals, how to think long term, and why the overall patient experience matters.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide Contact
Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt

Mar 10, 2025 • 60min
S5E16: Adam Loiacono on NBA life & Scaling Specificity
On today’s episode Michelle sits down with Adam Loiacono, owner of Loiacono Performance Therapy in Scottsdale, AZ. Adam has over 15 years of experience providing rehabilitation and performance training to professional & youth athletes. His career includes reaching the NBA Finals with the Phoenix Suns and the MLS Cup with the New England Revolution. On today’s episode, expect to learn why you should create a story about yourself, tips for growing a business, what life in the NBA is like, why general adaptations make athletes successful, and how to scale specificity.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt

Mar 3, 2025 • 1h 3min
S5E15: Lance Goyke on Gorillas, Kangaroos, and Debugging Humans
Back almost 3 years after his first appearance on More Train, Less Pain, Lance Goyke rejoins Tim to talk simplifying velocity based-training, designing workouts for busy people, leaving the (full time) fitness industry, and *most importantly* best pop punk albums of the 2000s.
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt

Feb 24, 2025 • 51min
S5E14: Ryan Patrick on Speed Training Strategies for All
On today’s episode Michelle gets PEAK FAST with Ryan Patrick, owner of Peak Fitness & Sports Training in Erlanger, Kentucky. On today’s episode, expect to learn how Ryan realized that max strength wasn’t translating into speed, why you shouldn’t rush progress with youth athletes, how to avoid drill surfing by having a decision making framework, how to use bodyweight movements for assessment, and strategies for speed development using sleds.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt

Feb 17, 2025 • 1h 6min
S5E13: David Grey on Curiosity, “What Tends to Work”, & Accuracy of Movement
Michelle steals David Grey as a guest on the podcast from Tim’s lineup and talks about his curiosity, decision making, and how he prescribes his knowledge. On today’s episode expect to learn how David helps his clients interpret their problems, the best strategies for learning, why simplicity is driven from complexity, the best questions to ask clients, the difference between variety and variability, and why accuracy is more important than range of movement. Sit down, kick up your feet, and get out your notebook for this one.
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Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt

Feb 10, 2025 • 1h 5min
S5E12: Coaching Cues We Hate
Michelle and Tim discuss their top three most hated coaching cues. Coaching cues are meant to anchor an exercise, provide a focal point, and represent intent. Cues aren’t meant to be applied to all, so Michelle and Tim dial in on when and why to use specific cues. In this episode expect to learn why “squeezing your glutes” is ineffective for cueing the deadlift, why you should be mindful about over-tucking your hips and over-reaching, why shin angles matter, cueing mistakes Michelle & Tim have made, and why word choice is key to positive outcomes.
Listen, subscribe, and tell your friends…
Reframe Performance: https://www.reframeperformance.com/
Reframe Performance Free Guide- 6 Biggest Weight Training Mistakes Runners Make: https://www.reframeperformance.com/weight-training-runners-mistakes-guide
Contact Michelle: https://www.michelleboland-training.com/ or @dr.michelleboland
Contact Tim: https://www.timrichardt.com/ or @tim_richardt_dpt
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