

Data Over Dogma
Daniel McClellan and Daniel Beecher
This ain't your pastor's Bible podcast. This is a deep interrogation of the book, and we're bringing receipts. Bible scholar Dr. Dan McClellan and atheist podcaster Dan Beecher team up to discover what the Bible actually says, what it decidedly doesn't say (even if everyone thinks it does), and explore the history of the most popular book of all time.
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Feb 2, 2026 • 1h 8min
Unforgivable!
They dive into the wild apocryphal tale of Thecla, a fearless woman who defies society, survives arena beasts, and even braves a pond of killer seals. Then they tackle the biblical idea of an unforgivable sin and trace how ancient texts and modern readers have wrestled with blaming the Spirit. Expect historical detective work, surprising rituals, and reassuring takeaways.

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Jan 26, 2026 • 1h 16min
Hiding God
A lively walkthrough of the book of Esther, noting its palace drama, reversals, and the curious lack of explicit divine language. A debate about whether public displays of faith are effective witness or mere signaling. Discussion of costly signaling, Jesus' critique of ostentatious piety, and practical takeaways about when to keep religion private.

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Jan 19, 2026 • 1h
Jesus is so Fulfilling!
What does it mean when Jesus says he fulfilled the law? The hosts dive into varying interpretations, exploring whether old laws are still relevant. They tackle the confusion around prohibitive laws and how Matthew's teachings contrast with Luke's narratives. A fascinating shift unfolds as they compare ancient Assyrian vassal treaties with biblical laws, revealing unexpected connections. The discussion sheds light on how these treaties framed the notion of divine authority and Israel's complex relationship with God.

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Jan 12, 2026 • 1h
The Holy Dunk
This discussion dives deep into the significance of Jesus' baptism, exploring its narrative discrepancies across the Gospels. The hosts unpack baptism's origins, connecting it to Jewish ritual and the themes of forgiveness and rebirth. They also reveal fascinating links between Deuteronomy and Assyrian vassal treaties, challenging listeners to rethink biblical laws and their historical contexts. Additionally, they highlight peculiar injunctions around warfare and preservation in Deuteronomy, making for a thought-provoking exploration of ancient texts.

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Jan 5, 2026 • 58min
Bring Me the Head of John the Baptist!
Dive into the life and execution of John the Baptizer, a figure with more historical weight than Jesus! Explore the differing accounts of his death across the gospels and the intriguing motivations behind it. Transitioning to church hierarchy, the discussion unpacks what it really means to be a pastor and examines the origins of church roles from the New Testament. The hosts debate the exclusionary language around pastoral roles while highlighting that the scriptures don’t provide a strict organizational manual.

32 snips
Dec 29, 2025 • 1h 7min
Shiny Happy People!
This week, the hosts dive into the dazzling transfiguration of Jesus and why Peter gets a hard time for his tent plans. They dissect the significance of Moses and Elijah's appearances, linking them to themes of authority and divinity. Switching gears, they explore the miraculous feeding of the 5,000, comparing accounts from all four gospels. With lively discussions about logistics, crowd dynamics, and the echoes of Old Testament stories, they paint a picture of a profound moment with Jesus as the ultimate provider.

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Dec 22, 2025 • 1h 9min
Not Original, Not Sin
Dive into the intriguing tale of Adam and Eve as the duo unpacks the myths of Eden. Explore themes of truth and deception surrounding the infamous tree and serpent. Discover what 'original sin' really means and whether it’s biblically rooted. The hosts dissect how ideas of sin have evolved over time, connecting ancient beliefs to modern interpretations. With a mix of humor and insight, they reveal the social implications of the concept of sin. Get ready for a thought-provoking discussion about morality and humanity's deeper narrative!

40 snips
Dec 15, 2025 • 1h 12min
Did Jesus Fulfill Prophesy?
The podcast delves into the intriguing claims surrounding Jesus' birth and the alleged fulfillment of over 300 prophecies. It critically examines how translations and interpretations of ancient texts, like Isaiah, shaped the nativity narrative. The hosts role-play responses to apologetic challenges, discussing the differing accounts of Matthew and Luke. They also analyze the historical accuracy of events, including the controversial census under Herod. In the end, they argue that the claims of prophetic fulfillment are more about narrative construction than factual evidence.

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Dec 8, 2025 • 1h 2min
Immaculate Apologetics?
The hosts dive into the controversial claim that Jesus' crucifixion is better attested than events involving Julius Caesar, challenging historical narratives. They scrutinize manuscript evidence, exposing the limitations in proving the New Testament's historicity. The conversation shifts to the Immaculate Conception, clarifying common misconceptions about its meaning and exploring its historical development. They also discuss Mary's significant cultural impact and veneration through the ages, making for a thought-provoking blend of theology and history.

38 snips
Dec 1, 2025 • 1h 2min
Polygamy!
This week, the discussion dives into a provocative claim by a Missouri pastor about the Bible supporting polygamy. They explore key biblical passages, debating whether scripture truly endorses plural marriage. Solomon and his son Rehoboam's tumultuous reigns are also examined, revealing the consequences of foreign wives and poor leadership choices. The hosts navigate cultural backlash against Mormon polygyny and analyze the shifts in both Judaism and Christianity regarding marriage practices. It's a thought-provoking journey through scriptural interpretations and historical context!


