Data Over Dogma

Bring Me the Head of John the Baptist!

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Jan 5, 2026
Dive into the life and execution of John the Baptizer, a figure with more historical weight than Jesus! Explore the differing accounts of his death across the gospels and the intriguing motivations behind it. Transitioning to church hierarchy, the discussion unpacks what it really means to be a pastor and examines the origins of church roles from the New Testament. The hosts debate the exclusionary language around pastoral roles while highlighting that the scriptures don’t provide a strict organizational manual.
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Gospels Shrink John's Role Over Time

  • The synoptic gospels vary in length on John the Baptist's death, with Mark longest and John omitting it entirely.
  • This shrinking emphasis suggests later authors downplayed John's importance relative to Jesus.
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John As Early Rival To Jesus

  • John the Baptist was a major prophetic figure and potential rival in his era, which complicates the gospels' portrayals.
  • Dan Beecher and Dan McClellan suggest gospel authors may have minimized John to elevate Jesus.
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Mark's Detailed Account Of John's Imprisonment

  • Mark gives the fullest narrative: John criticizes Herod's marriage and is imprisoned by Herod Antipas.
  • Mark's detail-driven account frames Herod as fearful and morally compromised.
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