
Interdependence
Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst, optimistic about the 21st Century.
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Jul 14, 2021 • 1h 34min
Approachable AI for music, model markets, new DAWs and Holly+ with Never Before Heard Sounds
Super excited to share this one, on the advent of our collaboration for Holly+, we are joined by Chris Deaner and Yotam Mann of Never Before Heard Sounds, a brand new company releasing AI music tools, to discuss approachable AI tools for music making, the inevitable model economy, new approaches to DAWs and the Holly+ project more generally! Never Before Heard Sounds: https://heardsounds.com/Follow them on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HeardSoundsPlay with Holly+ (and share your results!): https://holly.plus/

Jul 13, 2021 • 1h 34min
Energy Justice and Nuclear Power with Zion Lights
Happy to welcome activist and science communicator Zion Lights to discuss Energy Justice, the scientific consensus around Nuclear Power, the shaky morality of Degrowth positions, Greta Thunberg, Extinction Rebellion and her new advocacy organisation, Emergency Reactor!Zion Lights: http://www.zionlights.co.uk/Join Emergency Reactor: https://www.emergencyreactor.org/

Jun 22, 2021 • 1h 6min
The Wyoming DAO bill, DAO art collections, Autonomous DAOs, DAO templates and more DAOs with Priyanka Desai & Aaron Wright of OpenLaw
Continuing our DAO thread we are thrilled to be joined by Aaron & Priyanka of OpenLaw, instrumental in formulating and passing the Wyoming DAO legislation, and stewards of NFT art collection DAO Flamingo, Tempest DAO and The LAO. We discuss what a DAO is, what the legislation means for human and nonhuman DAOs, art collecting in web3 and how DAO governance has been working in practice. This is a great introduction to DAOs and early experiments in the medium for the unfamiliar!Apologies for the imperfect audio, our laptop decided to rebel just as we started the call. Next week we continue the theme by inviting Science Fiction author Daniel Suarez, whose book Daemon had a hand in inspiring the concept of the DAO in the first place, as discussed in this episode :)Thanks again for your support everyone, have a wonderful week <3 OpenLaw: https://www.openlaw.ioFlamingoDAO: https://flamingodao.xyz/The LAO: https://www.thelao.io/Follow Priyanka: https://twitter.com/pridesaiFollow Aaron: https://twitter.com/awrigh01

Jun 14, 2021 • 1h 59min
Meme analysis, E-deologies, shadow ban paranoia and gamer guild economies with Joshua Citarella
Watch Josh's streams: https://www.twitch.tv/joshuacitarellaListen to Josh's interviews: https://www.patreon.com/joshuacitarellaJoshua Citarella - 20 Interviews Book: https://www.amazon.com/20-Interviews-Joshua-Citarella/dp/1034279270/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=joshua+citarella&qid=1611597124&sr=8-1Welcome to TikTok, the Wildly Popular Video App Where Gen Z Makes the Rules: https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-tiktok-wildly-popular-video-app-gen-rules

May 25, 2021 • 1h 31min
Early internet energy panics, Brandolini's Law, and getting the numbers right with Dr. Jonathan Koomey
Follow Jon: https://twitter.com/jgkoomeyTurning Numbers into Knowledge: http://www.numbersintoknowledge.com/Estimating Bitcoin Electricity Use: A Beginner’s Guide: https://www.coincenter.org/estimating-bitcoin-electricity-use-a-beginners-guide/SORRY, WRONG NUMBER: The Use and Misuse of Numerical Facts in Analysis and Media Reporting of Energy Issues: attached ;)Mike Berners Lee: How Bad are Bananas?: https://www.amazon.com/How-Bad-Are-Bananas-Everything/dp/1553658310Brandolini's Law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law

May 21, 2021 • 1h 4min
The album that spawned a transnational decentralized network with Rully Shabara (Senyawa)
Rully Shabara: https://www.rullyshabara.id/Senyawa: https://www.rullyshabara.id/senyawaAlkisah: https://alkisah.net/Participating label list: https://alkisah.net/track-list/Raung Jagat: https://www.rullyshabara.id/raung-jagat

May 11, 2021 • 1h 1min
Weaponized Design, security, vulnerability, and caution over the decentralized web with Cade Diehm (New Design Congress)
New Design Congress: https://newdesigncongress.org/en/On Weaponized Design: https://newdesigncongress.org/en/pub/on-weaponised-designThis is Fine: Optimism and Emergency in the P2P network: https://newdesigncongress.org/en/pub/this-is-fineCade: https://shiba.computer/Follow Cade: https://twitter.com/helveticade

Apr 28, 2021 • 1h 41min
Decentralized scene building, DAO futures and making the internet fun again with Foundation
Foundation: https://foundation.app/Foundation on Twitter: https://twitter.com/withFNDKayvon on Twitter: https://twitter.com/saturnialLindsay on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Lindsay_Howard

Apr 12, 2021 • 1h 11min
Human music curation, non binary thinking, bundles, scarcity and participation with Tony Lashley (Marine Snow)
Sign up for updates on the Marine Snow project: https://marine-snow.co/sssFollow Tony Lashley: https://twitter.com/tooonyl

Apr 12, 2021 • 1h 11min
World Fairs, WorldBuilding, the bicameral mind, the nightmare of organizing research and the art of memory with Kantbot
Pseudodoxology Podcast Network: https://www.patreon.com/Pseudodoxia"The Deluge": https://medium.com/@EdwardWaverley/the-deluge-f62968b20972"The Sublimity of Permanent Collapse": https://medium.com/@EdwardWaverley/the-sublimity-of-permanent-collapse-and-the-leibnizian-problem-of-monadic-optimization-inherent-in-70d6e8be095aBooks!Anything by Frederick BeiserThe Art of Memory by Frances A.Yates :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_MemoryThe Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origin_of_Consciousness_in_the_Breakdown_of_the_Bicameral_MindLogic and the Art of Memory (The Quest for a Universal Language) by Paolo Rossi:https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/L/bo3620360.htmlThe Gallery of Memory: Literary and Iconographic Models in the Age of the Printing Press by Lina Bolzoni and Jeremy Parzen:https://utorontopress.com/us/the-gallery-of-memory-2LibGen: https://libgen.is/
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