
Interdependence
Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst, optimistic about the 21st Century.
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Sep 10, 2023 • 56min
Myths and Machine Learning with Marianna Simnett
In advance of the premiere of her new AI fueled gesamtkunstwerk “Gorgon”, the artist Marianna Simnett joins us to dive into mythology, mimicry and the saga of convincing tools to do what you want them to!“Gorgon” (commissioned by LAS) will take place at HAU Berlin from the 13-17th Septemberhttps://www.las-art.foundation/programme/gorgonFollow Marianna Simnett: https://www.instagram.com/mariannasimnett/Collect OGRESS on Foundation: https://foundation.app/collection/ogress

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Aug 29, 2023 • 1h 42min
The floor is moving with Shawn Reynaldo
Shawn Reynaldo, electronic music veteran and author of 'First Floor', discusses the evolution of dance music culture, the shift in DJ culture towards influencer DJs, challenges in the music industry and journalism, the impact of market efficiencies on subcultural activities, AI in music production, and the value of community in the music industry.

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May 22, 2023 • 49min
Demystifying AI training law with TechnoLlama
Everyone and their llama is talking about AI ethics and law, so we invited the high Llama Andres Guadamuz, an eminent researcher in AI and IP, to discuss the particularities and uncertainties of AI training law, in honor of his recent paper on the subject. It is an issue of our time. We make it fun. A Scanner Darkly: Copyright Infringement in Artificial Intelligence Inputs and Outputs: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4371204Follow Andres on twitter: https://twitter.com/technollama

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Apr 28, 2023 • 54min
The Permaweird with Venkatesh Rao
After some weeks of nativity bliss and medical drama we are back! A joy to invite Venkatesh Rao to take us down a number of his bunny trails, focussing initially on his great piece The Permaweird, the latest in his Great Weirding series. We discuss the tendency to call "crisis!", a generally ambient sense of weirdness, and how the latest developments in AI suggest that isn't slowing down anytime soonThe Permaweird: https://studio.ribbonfarm.com/p/the-permaweirdSubscribe to Ribbonfarm: https://studio.ribbonfarm.com/Follow Venkatesh on twitter: https://twitter.com/vgr

Apr 19, 2023 • 1h 7min
Latent space exploration with Damien Roach aka patten
We caught up with Damien Roach, aka patten, aka 555-5555, to discuss the need for new language to navigate the abstract implications of machine learning for our understanding of art, and the limitations of the modernist approach. We also eventually get around to discussing his beautiful new record "Mirage FM" created in part with Riffusion, a text-to-audio model.Follow Damien: https://twitter.com/patttten / https://www.instagram.com/pattttenBuy "Mirage FM": https://patttten.bandcamp.com/album/mirage-fm

Mar 21, 2023 • 1h 3min
Mental models and next gen AI tools with Cristóbal Valenzuela (Runway)
Runway have been on an absolute tear of late offering new AI tools for their creative production suite, so we invited CEO Cristóbal Valenzuela to join us to discuss their approach, and how the mental models of artists and greater society may change in accordance with the shifts happening. Try out Runway: https://runwayml.comFollow Runway: https://twitter.com/runwaymlFollow Cristóbal: https://twitter.com/c_valenzuelab

Mar 6, 2023 • 1h 21min
Air Age Blueprint, machine sentience and interspecies comms with K Allado-McDowell
Hey everyone! We recently linked up with the inimitable K Allado McDowell as part of the "Death by Landscape" series at HKW Berlin to discuss their new book "Air Age Blueprint" with a live audience, out now on Ignota Books, as well as recent controversies around AI sentience, and K's own work exploring interspecies communication with machine learning.Lots more to come, hope you are warm and well.Order "Air Age Blueprint": https://ignota.org/products/air-age-blueprintCheck out the HKW: https://www.hkw.de/en/Cover art by Somnath Bhatt

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Jan 10, 2023 • 1h 46min
Dadabots: Playing with fire❤️🔥and extreme AI music
Over the moon to welcome titans of AI music Dadabots! We debate the coming obsolescence of human artists, their new open source AI music organization HarmonAI, and discuss what is being prototyped on the bleeding edge of AI sound generation. Follow Dadabots: https://twitter.com/dadabotsDadabots in the AI song contest: https://www.aisongcontest.com/the-2022-finalists

Dec 31, 2022 • 1h 34min
Synthetic 3ball and Semilla AI with Hexorcismos
We catch up with Moisés Horta Valenzuela (Hexorcismos) to discuss his remarkable experiments with music and machine learning, and his upcoming software project Semilla that experiments with co-ownership of musician AI models shared for anyone to use. Just...the best.Listen to Hexorcismos: https://hexorcismos.bandcamp.com/Follow Hexorcismos: https://twitter.com/hexorcismosCheck out Semilla: https://semilla.ai/

Nov 30, 2022 • 1h 16min
New economic kinks and Extitutional theory with Primavera De Filippi
Primavera De Filippi, a researcher at CNRS and Harvard, discusses economic experiments, Extitutional theory, and crypto. They explore blockchain governance, NFT boom, ReFi projects for environmental causes, and the impact of blockchain on governance structures. Emphasizing interdependence and collaboration in achieving collective goals.
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