

BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast
BiggerPockets
Want financial freedom through real estate investing? Then the BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast is for you. Sit down every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday with Dave Meyer, the Head of Real Estate at BiggerPockets, as he uncovers tried and true tactics and shares candid conversations with real estate investors who are building wealth in today’s market. Join Dave to walk through deals that went right (and wrong) and learn the strategies you can deploy—start growing your side income today to take control of your financial future.
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Sep 22, 2016 • 1h 3min
193: Finding and Managing Rental Properties While Working Full-Time with Steve Garner
Everyone knows rental properties can be a great way to build wealth and cash flow. Yet so few people ever take the steps needed to build their portfolio. That’s why we’re excited for you to listen to this week’s episode of The BiggerPockets Podcast! On this show, we sit down with Steve Garner, a North Carolina investor who currently is building and managing a rental portfolio while working a full-time job he loves. You’ll learn several creative methods for finding deals that have worked great for Steve, as well as some of his clever tricks for managing tenants with minimal work!In This Episode We Cover:
How Steve got started in real estate
How to build courage to get started investing
Details on his first deal
Why Brandon and Steve love tenant-proofing their properties
What “REO” means
What REIA is
How he landed his second property using Homepath
Tips for looking at cash on cash return
How many deals has Steve done so far
How he finds deals
How he handles CapEx
How to puts money aside for CapEx
Steve’s 10-unit townhomes
How he finances his properties
Thoughts on managing properties
Why he’s very particular when a tenant’s about to leave
What his full-time job is
The importance of screening and having standards for tenants
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
Denver Startup Week
BiggerPockets Jobs
Carlton Sheets Cassettes
BiggerPockets Webinar
BiggerPockets Events
BP Podcast 004: Commercial Real Estate Investing With Frank Gallinelli
BP Podcast 186: How to Get Your First Few Properties — Even in a Competitive Market with Dave Meyer
BiggerPockets Forums
Books Mentioned in this Show
The Book on Investing with No or Low Money Down by Brandon Turner
The Book on Rental Property Investing and The Book on Managing Rental by Brandon Turner and Heather Turner
The Millionaire Real Estate Investor by Gary Keller
Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
Landlording on Auto-Pilot by Mike Butler
The Success Journey by John C. Maxwell
The Richest Man in Babylon by George S. Clason
How to Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie
Tweetable Topics:
“I am a long-term buy and hold investor so I try to rent-proof my properties.” (Tweet This!)
“The time to get credit is when you don’t need it.” (Tweet This!)
“There’s so many good tenants out there that you want to make sure you find that good tenant.” (Tweet This!)
“Beyond being a continual learner is taking action.” (Tweet This!)
Connect with SteveSteve’s BiggerPockets Profile
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Sep 15, 2016 • 1h 1min
192: Income from Cash Flow but Wealth from Appreciation with Russel Brazil
“I can’t invest in real estate — everything is too expensive” is a common statement used by newbie real estate investors across the world. But is it true? Today on the BiggerPockets Podcast, we’re excited to dig in on the topic with Russell Brazil, an investor from the DC area who has a unique perspective on the wealth-building power of appreciation (AND cash flow!).In This Episode We Cover:
How Russell got started in real estate
Where he invest (and the prices in that location)
Why you should fix your personal finances first
Where to cut expenses
The snowball effect that happens when you’re not living on the cashflow
How the numbers look on his first properties
What CapEx is (and other expenses you should be aware of)
How many rental properties he has today
How he broke even with some of his properties
A discussion about appreciation
Thoughts on investing in condo units
Why he’s planning to invest in residential complexes
Why he doesn’t do much flipping anymore
How to find investors and partners
Advice for new investors
Tips for taking advantage of low interest rates
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
BiggerPockets Youtube Channel
BiggerPockets Webinar
BiggerPockets Bookstore
The Simple Action No One Does That Will Make You A Millionaire (blog)
BP Podcast 014 : Cash Flow, Creative Finance, and Life with Ben Leybovich
BiggerPockets Forums
Books Mentioned in this Show
The Book on Investing with No or Low Money Down by Brandon Turner
The 4-Hour Workweek by Timothy Ferriss
The Big Short by Michael Lewis
One Up On Wall Street by Peter Lynch
Tweetable Topics:
“If you want it bad enough, you’ll figure out how to save money.” (Tweet This!)
“Cash flow is how I pay my bills, while appreciation is how I build wealth.” (Tweet This!)
“Debt is good. I love debt.” (Tweet This!)
“The best way we can mitigate risk and make money is by having market knowledge.” (Tweet This!)
“Real estate is a ‘relationships’ business.” (Tweet This!)
Connect with Russell
Russell’s BiggerPockets Profile
Russell’s Website
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Sep 8, 2016 • 1h 2min
191: Buying Out-of-State Rentals and Investing Later in Life with Bill Manassero
Today on the BiggerPockets Podcast, we’re excited to introduce you to a man who didn’t start investing until later in life but has built an impressive portfolio in the past few years. Even more, he bought his rentals thousands of miles away from where he lives! You’ll learn the inspiring tale of our guest, Bill Manassero, and how he went from running an orphanage in Haiti to buying rental properties and the challenges that transition caused. You’ll also be inspired by Bill’s heart and his real purpose for creating wealth through real estate. You are going to love this powerful episode, and it just might change why you invest in real estate! (And don’t miss Bill’s story of how his family appeared on Oprah!)In This Episode We Cover:
Who Bill is (and why he’s hung out with Oprah)
Why he built an orphanage
How his plans transitioned to real estate
Thoughts on investing while nearing retirement
The risk profiles for various ages
How he focuses on family and not just the money
How to reach your freedom number
How he and his family got onto Oprah
What exactly a turnkey property is — and Bill’s turnkey story
A few red flags when it comes to turnkeys
His goal of reaching 1,000 units
How he finds properties
The struggles of reaching his goal, from finding funds to working with the right people
How he maintains the property
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
BiggerPockets Videos
BiggerPockets Webinar
Child Hope International
BP Podcast 115: Getting Started with Apartment Complex Investing with Jeff Greenberg
BP Podcast 151: Finding Your “Freedom Number” with Clayton Morris
Desperate for Tenants in Memphis [Forum Post]
BP Podcast 190: Building 61 Different Passive Streams of Income with Pat Hiban
BiggerPockets Forums
Loopnet
BiggerPockets Calculators
TEDx Talk by Robert Kiyosaki [Video]
021: Buying Properties with Little or No Money Down with Brandon Turner[Podcast]
Books Mentioned in this Show
The Ultimate Beginner’s Guide to Real Estate Investing by BiggerPockets
The ABCs of Real Estate Investing by Ken McElroy
The Book on Investing with No or Low Money Down by Brandon Turner
Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki
The 4-Hour Workweek by Timothy Ferriss
Tweetable Topics:
“I got tired of working for these other folks, so I decided to become an entrepreneur.” (Tweet This!)
“I want to be able to go where I need to go.” (Tweet This!)
“You gotta get in there and get your hands dirty, and that’s where the learning really starts.” (Tweet This!)
Connect with Bill
Bill’s BiggerPockets Profile
Bill’s Company Website
Old Dawg’s Podcast
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Sep 1, 2016 • 1h 9min
190: Building 61 Different Passive Streams of Income with Pat Hiban
Are you building vertical or horizontal income in your life? If you aren’t sure, don’t miss this exceptionally important episode of the BiggerPockets Podcast, where we talk with Pat Hiban about creating multiple streams of passive income. Pat, who is a New York Times bestselling author, shares his real estate journey with us today, starting from a humble “house hack” to participating in multi-million dollar apartment complex purchases. You’ll also learn why (and how) Pat has 61 different sources of “horizontal” income streams and the best ways to begin building your own. Don’t miss a second of this incredible show.In This Episode We Cover:
Pat’s thoughts on being a real estate agent for 28 years
Why many real estate agents don’t invest
How he obtained his first property by house hacking
The story of an illegal alien investor
What Section 8 rentals are and why he invest in them
The pros and cons of Section 8 tenants
How he makes money through college rentals
How he manages his properties
How to make a property college-proof
What exactly a “come bet” is
Why he looks for track record before investing with someone
A discussion on horizontal streams of income
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
BiggerPockets Videos
BP Podcast 188: Using 20+ Years of Studying Market Cycles to Buy Low & Sell High with David Gudmundsen
BiggerPockets Webinar
GoSection8
BP Podcast 048: Duplex Investing, Finding Great Properties, and Tips for Managing Tenants with Darren Sager
BP Podcast 170: The Journey From Flipping Houses to Owning 1,470 Units with Andrew Cushman
BiggerPockets Forums
GoBundance
Books Mentioned in this Show
Retire Young Retire Rich by Robert Kiyosaki
The Surrender Experiment by Michael A. Singer
6 Steps to 7 Figures by Pat Hiban
Tweetable Topics:
“My biggest regret is not buying a house a year.” (Tweet This!)
“On Section 8, I buy where if they find out that I’ll put a Section 8 in there, they’ll be upset.” (Tweet This!)
“Create bucket list moments and get the most out of life.” (Tweet This!)
Connect with Pat
Pat’s BiggerPockets Profile
Pat’s Company Website
Pat’s Podcast
VPACQ
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Aug 25, 2016 • 1h 25min
189: 500 Deals, the $100,000 Wholesale Paycheck, & the Systems That Make it Work with Tarl Yarber
Are you looking to ultimately work less, travel more, and life proactively rather than reactively? The key to this life is found in systems. And on today’s episode of the BiggerPockets Podcast, we are excited to introduce you to a guest who’s a master at building systems in his business. Tarl Yarber, an investor in the Pacific Northwest, shares his story of beginning with no money, making $100,000 on a single wholesale deal, and ultimately turning his love for real estate into a profitable business that has done 500 deals. This powerful show is sure to transform the way you run your business forever.
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Aug 18, 2016 • 1h 22min
188: Using 20+ Years of Studying Market Cycles to Buy Low & Sell High David Gudmundsen
Is the real estate market about to collapse? Do we have 10 more years? What’s the future hold? While no one can definitively answer these questions, today’s guest has some keen insight into timing the market, allowing you to “buy low and sell high.” Today, we’re excited to introduce you to David Gudmundsen, an investor who’s been in the game more than 20 years and who’s seen numerous peaks and valleys — and who has learned how to ride the wave. With more than 250 deals under his belt, David is an incredible resource for anyone looking to grow their portfolio — or preserve it — during times of uncertainty. Unless you know exactly where the real estate market is headed next, don’t miss this powerful and entertaining episode!In This Episode We Cover:
Why David chose real estate and his first property
How he got his first property by assuming a loan
How he reached a level of buying a property a month without a college education
How Monopoly inspired him to invest in real estate
How to balance learning and actually making deals
What exactly a wrap is
Thoughts on contracts for deeds
How many deals he has made
What you should know about seller carry back
What walking the mortgage is
Insight into market cycles and crashes
How to read the signs of market cycles
What we can learn from the boiled frog analogy
What “buying right” really means
The importance of not always doing the things others are doing
Why it’s important to join real estate club meet ups
A couple of his worst and greatest deals
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
BiggerPockets Pro
ZBuyer
BiggerPockets Webinar
BiggerPockets Analysis Tools
BiggerPockets Forums
Books Mentioned in this Show
How to Buy and Manage Rental Properties by Irene and Mike Millin
Unlimited Power by Tony Robbins
Close That Sale! by Brian Tracy
Advanced Selling Strategies by Brian Tracy
Tweetable Topics:
“I can never win at Monopoly unless I roll the dice and I buy houses.” (Tweet This!)
“A good borrower can make a bad loan good, and a bad borrower can make a good loan bad.” (Tweet This!)
“Forget location, location, location. It’s all about buy low and sell high.” (Tweet This!)
“You just look at what exactly the herd is not doing.” (Tweet This!)
Connect with David
David’s BiggerPockets Profile
Email David
David’s Company Website
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Aug 11, 2016 • 60min
187: Building Wealth Through Older Small Multifamily Properties with Dana Bull
In this episode of the BiggerPockets Podcast, we talk about a subject many investors debate about: investing in OLD properties. Today’s guest, Dana Bull, has filled her portfolio with properties over 100 years — and she dishes out the good, the bad, and the ugly details. You’ll also learn why Dana focuses on small multifamily properties and she offers some incredible insight into being an effective landlord — no matter your age or experience level.In This Episode We Cover:
Why Dana and her boyfriend rented in Salem, the infamous place of witch trials
How she bought a house from 1784
Things to note about buying old houses
The numbers on their second property
Why she wants to avoid inheriting tenants
Why Dana seeks one bedrooms with smaller footprints
The “stepping stone” property for young professionals
Why lead-based paint is an issue
Things she’s learned from being a landlord in her mid-twenties
A discussion on open houses vs. individual showings
How to deal with tenant issues
How to know when it’s time to sell
The importance of knowing the end goal and taking steps to get there
How she managed to juggle full-time jobs and investing
How many properties she has now and why she’s just hitting a “target”
What she means by the “building years”
How she manages her properties
What it’s like being a woman investor
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
Josh’s Twitter Account
BP Podcast 099: 3 Personal Finance Bloggers & Their First Real Estate Investment with Scott, Lauren, and Philip
BiggerPockets Webinar
BiggerPockets Forums
Books Mentioned in this Show
Property Management Kit For Dummies by Robert S. Griswold
The Book on Managing Rental Properties by Brandon and Heather Turner
The EveryGirl’s Guide to Life by Maria Menounos
Tweetable Topics:
“All of our properties have some sort of story in them.” (Tweet This!)
“If people want your time or if people want to live in your space, they need to respect you and your time.” (Tweet This!)
“There are so many approaches you can take, and I think the key is to just start.” (Tweet This!)
Connect with Dana
Dana’s BiggerPockets Profile
Dana’s Company Website
Dana’s LinkedIn Profile
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Aug 4, 2016 • 1h 7min
186: How to Get Your First Few Properties - Even in a Competitive Market with Dave Meyer
There are a lot of excuses people use for why they don’t invest in real estate. Maybe they work too much. Maybe they don’t have any money. Maybe the market is too hot. But some — like our guest today — don’t let those difficulties stop them. Instead, they use creativity to overcome obstacles and build a real estate empire. So today on the BiggerPockets Podcast, we are excited to introduce you to Dave Meyer, an investor from the Denver market, who shares his story of buying eight units using creativity, intelligence, and in incredible level of hustle!In This Episode We Cover:
Who exactly Dave, the VP of Growth for BiggerPockets, is
How his silly neighbor unintentionally encouraged him to buy a house
Why he chose his friend as a partner
The details of his first deal
What he looked for in his first deal
The numbers on that deal
Would it still be a great deal without the appreciation in Denver?
How he raised his funds for this project
The importance of acting on opportunities now
Who manages his properties?
How a tenant built a staircase for him
How you can learn the market by working hands-on
How Dave bought properties while waiting tables
His first experience with house hacking
Tips to keep in mind regarding zoning when finding properties
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
Josh’s Twitter Account
Brandon’s Twitter Account
BiggerPockets Webinar
BiggerPockets Forums
Dancing with the Stars
How Great Leaders Inspire Action by Simon Sinek (TED Talk)
Books Mentioned in this Show
The Book on No or Low Money Down by Brandon Turner
The Ultimate Beginners Guide to Real Estate Investing by BiggerPockets
Start with Why by Simon Sinek
Leaders Eat Last by Simon Sinek
Tweetable Topics:
“If you have an opportunity, you’re a fool to ignore it. Find a way to do it.” (Tweet This!)
“You learn a tremendous amount if you do hands on things such as screening the tenants, doing the open houses. You learn the market and what people want.” (Tweet This!)
“Find the deal and figure out how to get the money to make it happen.” (Tweet This!)
“Once you start owning, it feels weird to start paying someone else to live in their house.” (Tweet This!)
Connect with DaveDave’s BiggerPockets Profile
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Jul 28, 2016 • 55min
185: How “Rent-to-Own” Can Increase Cash Flow and Maximize Equity with Bill Powers
Real estate investor Bill Powers shares his journey of acquiring over 70 units in 5 years using lease options. Topics include tenant screening, rent-to-own dynamics, Dodd-Frank regulations, and the future of his business. Learn about ethical practices in real estate investing and the importance of working with investor-friendly agents.

Jul 21, 2016 • 58min
184: From Real Estate Agent to 800+ Deals with Bill Lublin
In today’s humorous episode of the BiggerPockets Podcast, you’ll meet Bill Lublin, a real estate expert who has invested in over 800 deals while also building the largest real estate agency in his state! You’ll learn how Bill got his start in real estate sales, why he was a terrible agent, and the one thing that changed everything. You’ll also hear how Bill has been able to do over 800 investment deals (from single family homes to multifamily to motels to development and more), his management philosophy, and why he thinks investors probably should NOT get their real estate license.In This Episode We Cover:
Who Bill is
How Bill got into real estate by accident
Why work ethic is important
Tips for employing hundreds of agents
Why some agents don’t buy their own properties
What you should know about a wraparound mortgage
How he learned to do creative financing
How many deals he has done so far (hint: 800 to 1,000)
His favorite type of deal
How to time your investing (despite the recession)
The 4 big things that will give you value-add on a property
Sage advice for investing for the long haul
How his business and partnership works
What the “elephant approach” is
And SO much more!
Links from the Show
Podcast Movement
BiggerPockets Webinar
BiggerPockets Forums
Books Mentioned in this Show
The Book on No or Low Money Down by Brandon Turner
List More, Sell More by Jerry Bresser
The E-Myth Revisited by Michael E. Gerber
Tweetable Topics:
“You make a living by selling real estate.” (Tweet This!)
“Anybody who has a periodic payment is paying somebody else’s mortgage.” (Tweet This!)
“I haven’t met anybody who owned a property for 10 years who didn’t make money on it.” (Tweet This!)
“You make a profit in the property when you buy it, not when you sell it.” (Tweet This!)
“You don’t recognize a loss until you sell something.” (Tweet This!)
“The hard part is not doing deals, but finding deals.” (Tweet This!)
Connect with Bill
Bill’s BiggerPockets Profile
Bill’s Website
Bill’s Company Website
Bill’s Twitter Account
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