
The Preconstruction Podcast - Commercial Construction.
The Preconstruction Podcast tells the story of Preconstruction Innovation within Commercial Construction throughout the US. We will be traveling the country speaking with Preconstruction innovators, Estimating geniuses, and national leaders within Technology, General Contractors, Architects, Owners, and Subcontractors to hear their Preconstruction success stories.
Latest episodes

Aug 21, 2023 • 18min
E1 (NextGen Series): Kyle Holmes Preconstruction at Knutson Construction
Our host, Gareth McGlynn, sat down with Kyle Holmes during the Advancing Preconstruction conference 2023 in Phoenix.
Discussed on this episode:
- His love for putting the pieces into place, Value Engineering, and love for Preconstruction
- Why Estimating?
- What helped him advance so quickly?
- Preconstruction Technology - geeking out and being technologically focused.
- What the Preconstruction Technology world can do better.
- The Power of Chat GPT: How he has used it in writing proposals etc
- What do we need Technology to do in Preconstruction - 3D drawing?
- Clean Technology like ConCntric and JOIN
- What the next generation needs and wants in a Preconstruction department.
E31 Micah Vainikka's Episode of the Preconstruction Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/micah-vainikka-young-preconstruction-leader-at-knutson/id1502264958?i=1000516420881
Kyle Holmes LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-holmes-01384785/
Micah Vainikka's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/micahvainikka/
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Aug 14, 2023 • 49min
E70: Brent Pilgrim - Integrated Estimating Workflow (National Director of Preconstruction at The Beck Group)
This week our host Gareth McGlynn, sits down with the master of Integrated Estimating, Brent Pilgrim, National Director of Preconstruction at The Beck Group
The discussion is about the following:
- What is Model-Based Estimating in the A/E/C industry?
- How Integrated Estimating is the future.
- The 5 key steps within Integrated Estimating.
- Preconstruction & Estimating: Transforming a broken, inefficient industry into something that is integrated, mechanized, and modern
- What is "Integrated Estimating" and why is Brent transforming the preconstruction discipline and the industry?
- The importance of cross-training and exposing yourself to MEP
- The Digital Link (key step within Integrated Estimating)
- What the next 20/30 years will look like for the Preconstruction & Estimating world - AI, Integrated Estimating and the labor shortage
Brent is a Preconstruction Technology enthusiast and is changing the industry for the better, but more importantly, doing it in an open and collaborative way.
Check him out on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentpilgrim/
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Aug 7, 2023 • 40min
E69 Brett Poulos - National Director of Preconstruction & Estimating discusses Design Build, Technology, Data loop and the future of Estimating
In this captivating episode, our host, Gareth McGlynn, delves deep into the world of design and build with Brett Poulos, National Director of Preconstruction and Estimating at Burns & McDonnell.
Discussion is about the following:
The main conversation around design-build, including its capabilities and strengths.
The growth and uptake of design-build from the perspective of developers and owners.
Effective ways to capture and utilize preconstruction data.
An in-depth discussion on the 360 data loop and its applications in the industry.
Current and future implications of technology and AI in construction and design-build.
The rise in self-performed capabilities achieved through the design-build process.
Connect with Brett Poulos on LinkedIn via this link: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-poulos/
For further insights, you can check out the DBIA Mid-Cycle Update Report here: https://dbia.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/DBIA-2023-Mid-Cycle-Survey-Report-FMI.pdf
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Jul 24, 2023 • 60min
E68 Mark Sands - Founder of Building Catalyst "Because Buildings cost too much and take too long to produce"
Our host Gareth McGlynn, sat down with Mark Sands Founder of Building CATALYST, which applies a management philosophy that is grounded in systems thinking - which is inspired by the work of W. Edwards Deming, the father of quality and process improvement.
Discussed in this episode of the Preconstruction Podcast:
- Mark's journey from VP / Partner at The Christman Company to starting Building Catalyst in 2013
- The reasons behind starting Building Catalyst what was the mission at the time and how has that mission changed
- What is Building CATALYST and why Owners and Contractors need it
- The Psychology around change within our industry, what will it take for real change in our processes
- How his customers reacted in 2019 when he integrated all the data from every customer
- Building methods and how they can shape the change (IPD and Design & Build)
- Wh0 uses Building Cataylst? And how it felt in 2022 hitting the milestone of 600 projects and over $10 Billion
- The difference between the Silo approach and the System approach. And why we must adopt the system approach.
- How structured data and a systems approach can all but automate the preconstruction process (example of the Mary Free Bed Rehabilitation Hospital)
- And much much more - including the terrible Grand Rapids winters :-)
As always our guests are incredible advocates for the Preconstruction space and are open to any follow up questions. The best place to get Mark is at the Building Catalyst website: https://www.buildingcatalyst.com/
Alternatively here is Mark's LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marksands/
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Jul 18, 2023 • 26min
E67 Kevin Hansen (VP of Precon) & Amr Rafaat (CIO) - Windover Construction. Award winning duo 🏆🏆🏆
Our host, Gareth McGlynn, sat down with Kevin Hansen (VP of Preconstruction) and Amr Rafaat (Chief Innovation Officer) at Windover Construction out of Boston.
This episode was recorded at Advancing Preconstruction Summit in Phoenix Arizona at the end of May.
Windover, Kevin and Amr have received multiple Innovation awards since 2019, Amr is a regular guest speaker on Innovation within construction. Discussed during this episode is:
- Amr's recent trip to Australia and the construction innovation happening in Asia Pacific region
- Transforming Modular and Prefabrication Construction Planning - Combining Drone Mapping, Laser Scanning and BIM Coordination
- How Windovers Innovation has contributed to mitigating risk and increased client satisfaction during Preconstruction
- We discuss the affordable housing project that helped land the Autodesk 2022 Innovation Award.
- The Innovative culture at Windover and how it's the corner stone of the company.
- And much much more
As always Kevin and Amr are always looking to collaborate, if you have any questions or are interested in connecting please contact them on LinkedIn via the links below:
Kevin Hansen : https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-hansen-2a51774
Amr Rafaat: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amr-raafat-b27255a4
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Jul 10, 2023 • 14min
E66 Jen Hawkins - Director of Industry Digital Transformation with VIATechnik "How do we bring supply chain data into Preconstruction?"
Advancing Preconstruction LIVE Episode: Gareth McGlynn, our host, sat down with Jen Tobias Hawkins in Phoenix to discuss:
- What are the Digital Tools that are driving Preconstruction, to drive better accuracy in estimating?
- How we get better Data into the earlier Life Cycles (Preconstruction)
- How do we bring the supply chain data into Design?
- VIATechnik: What do they offer?
- The Adoption of Data within Preconstruction across BIM Models
- How does BIM drive value
- What is the ROI on digitizing assets
- Digital Fabrication?
- Building Buildings with the same materials but thinking about it differently.
- We need to change our relationship with DATA.
- How the slowdown in VC money will affect the future of Preconstruction Technology.
Check out Jen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-tobias-hawkins/
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Jul 3, 2023 • 33min
E65 David Roberts - Director of Fabrication at KHS&S in So Cal. Why Digital Fabrication?
Gareth McGlynn, our host, sat down with David Roberts , Director of Modular Fabrication at KHS&S in Southern California.
Discussed on this episode of The Preconstruction Podcast:
- David Roberts' background and position at KHS&S
- Spek by KHS&S: What is PBU and PKU?
- Design process when it comes to Design Assist Digital Fabrication
- The value to the client and capabilities of Modular Fabrication
- The collaboration needed to carry out PBU or PKU
- And much much more
For further information or to ask David any questions please email him at david.roberts@khsswest.com
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Jun 26, 2023 • 44min
E64 Let's Talk ChatGPT and AI with the brilliant Will Senner. Will it take an Estimators job?
Gareth McGlynn, our host, sits down with the VP of Preconstruction and Data Solutions, Will Senner. He is working with Skanska in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Discussed on this episode are the following topics:
- ChatGPT / the super-powered language model.
- Data strategy - how to structure your data with AI in mind.
- The future of construction with AI.
- Preconstruction use cases
- How do you prepare for AI.
- How Skanska is attaching AI to their datasets.
You can get in touch with Will Senner via his LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/will-senner-9068b982/
Here's to an exciting episode – enjoy!

Jun 19, 2023 • 41min
E63 Tom Deane - CEO/Co-Founder of ProjectMark your all in one CRM & Proposal Platform to Win Work Smarter
Gareth McGlynn, our host, sits down with Tom Deane, the Co-Founder & CEO of ProjectMark, for an in-depth discussion.
The topics discussed in the podcast include:
Tom's university experience at the Limerick Institute of Technology, where he graduated in 2011.
His transition from an Irish education system as a quantity surveyor to working in the San Francisco construction market.
His experiences working as an owner's representative at MGAC in San Francisco. Tom lived out his dream of leaving Ireland to build high rises in America, and worked at MGAC for five and a half years.
His journey from being a general contractor cost manager to owning and developing ProjectMark, a preconstruction technology firm.
Tom discusses the all-in-one CRM and proposal platform which enables users to win work smarter.
"Sell preconstruction services". Tom discusses how ProjectMark helps users sell preconstruction services.
You can check Tom Deane via his LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-deane-5b93b93a/
Visit as well ProjectMark's website: https://www.projectmark.com/
Enjoy this podcast episode!

Apr 20, 2023 • 35min
E62: Alex Gregory, Director of Preconstruction for GH Phipps in Denver, CO - Recruiting qualified individuals to build a diverse Preconstruction team.
In our new episode, Gareth, our host, was joined by Alex Gregory, Director of Preconstruction at GH Phipps.
Discussed on the podcast are the following topics:
- He graduated from Georgia Southern University with a B.S. Construction Management in 2007
- Lean Construction Institute and the importance of Lean construction project delivery.
- He'll be presenting at the Advancing Preconstruction Conference on May 25th. His topic will be recruiting qualified individuals to build a diversed Preconstruction team.
- Preconstruction technology - what he has learned and what we can expect in the future.
You can check Alex Gregory via his LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexlgregory/
And visit Lean Construction Institute's website: https://leanconstruction.org/
Enjoy this podcast episode!