

Perfume Room
Emma Vernon
Hosted by perfumehead & comedian Emma Vernon, Perfume Room is your #1 safe space to obsess over all things scent.
Enjoy intimate, never-before-told stories from the fragrance legends you’re most curious about—master perfumers, industry legends, secret celeb fragheads, indie perfumers you should know, and lots of friends with good taste & hot takes along the way.
CRITICS CALL IT 'hilarious,' 'engaging,' 'educational,' 'just earnest enough,' & 'really bad for my wallet.’
Wherever you are on your perfume journey, you are welcome in the Perfume Room.
FOLLOW ALONG ON IG: @perfumeroompod
Enjoy intimate, never-before-told stories from the fragrance legends you’re most curious about—master perfumers, industry legends, secret celeb fragheads, indie perfumers you should know, and lots of friends with good taste & hot takes along the way.
CRITICS CALL IT 'hilarious,' 'engaging,' 'educational,' 'just earnest enough,' & 'really bad for my wallet.’
Wherever you are on your perfume journey, you are welcome in the Perfume Room.
FOLLOW ALONG ON IG: @perfumeroompod
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Jun 19, 2023 • 1h 5min
*BONUS* RE-RELEASE & GUEST UPDATE: Episode 1 (w/ Thin Wild Mercury's Cathleen Cardinali)
In anticipation of the BIG 100th EPISODE (airing this Tues!), enjoy this special bonus re-release and *where are they now* update from the first-ever guest of Perfume Room: Thin Wild Mercury's Cathleen Cardinali!
*SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR SPONSOR BDK PARFUMS*
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BDK Perfume mentioned: Villa Neroli

Jun 13, 2023 • 57min
99. ISO ~ New Signature Scent: A Live Scent Consult (w/ TV Writer & Comedian Cynia Barnwell)
TV Writer, Comedian, and longtime-YSL Black Opium-wearer, Cynia Barnwell, is in the Perfume Room today and on a quest for her new signature scent!
We discuss everything from the writers strike to Spice Girl typecasting to Sagittarius gender inequity, BUT most importantly, today Cynia smells and live-reacts to several perfumes I’ve handpicked just for her as contenders on the journey. Will she find *the one*?
EDITOR’S NOTE: The original recording included over 20 scents over a course of two-plus hours and has been cut down & condensed to the favorites/highlights.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Nobile 1942 Il Giardino, Frederic Malle Carnal Flower, By Kilian Good Girl Gone Bad, Bath & Body Works Plumeria, Tea Cabanel Oh Là Là, YSL Black Opium, Lattafa Fakhar Rose, BDK Pas Ce Soir, Louis Vuitton Attrapes-Reves, Guerlain Spiritueuse Double Vanille, Sol Janeiro Cheirosa 62, Sol de Janeiro Beija Flor Elasti-Cream, Burberry Her, Victoria's Secret: Love Spell, Strawberries and Champagne, Pear Glace; MFK Baccarat Rouge 540, Le Labo Santal 33, Fragrance du Bois NY 5th Ave, Carthusia Terra Mia, Aquolina Pink Sugar, Hanae Mori EDT, Liis Studied, Grace de Monaco Promenade Sur la Rocher, Funmi Monet Exalte, Malin & Goetz Kith Vapor, Afnan Ornament Pour Femme, YSL Mon Paris, Givenchy: L’Interdit Intense, L’Interdit Rouge; Thameen Peregrina, Elizabeth Taylor White Diamonds, Elizabeth Arden Red Door, Paco Rabonne Lady Million, Floris Platinum 22, La Perla Possibilities, Chanel Chance Eau Tendre, Vilhelm Mango Skin, Montale Intense Cafe
SHOP THIS EPISODE: https://shopmy.us/collections/187546
FOLLOW CYNIA:
Twitter: @notsocynicalc
Instagram: @bewellcreative
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Jun 6, 2023 • 42min
98. Emma in Paris! (a solo episode)
I went to Paris and now it's my *~whole personality~*. Here's a recap of everything I smelled and loved! Wish you could smell along? YOU. CAN. Sign up for JUNE SMELL CLUB, where we'll be smelling 5 of my favorite discoveries from the trip!
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Mathilde M. Astrée (scented plaster dove + room spray), Le Nez du Vin Master Kit, Le Nez du Vin Wine Faults, Maison Berger Paris Chardon Sauvage, Divine L’Homme Accompli, Memo Sicilian Leather, Divine L’Espirit Libre, L’Artisan Iris Gris, June Smell Club Emma in Paris sample pack, Perfumer H: Ink, Rain Cloud, Rain Wood, Suede; Miller Harris, D’Orsay: Nous Sommes Amants M.D., Vouloirs Etre Ailleurs C.G., Naomi Goodsir Iris Cendré, Nuit de Bakelite, Serge Lutens Iris Silver Mist, Aedes Iris Nazarena, Annick Goutal: Petite Chérie, Rose Splendide; Céline Parade, YSL Trench, Mizensir Bois Iridescent, Céline Saint Germain-des-Prés, Nightclubbing, L’Artisan Abyssae, Mandarina Corsica, Serge Lutens: Bois de Violette, Chypre Rouge; BDK Rouge Smoking, BohoBoco Wet Cherry Liquor, Tom Ford Lost Cherry, Serge Lutens: Jeux de Peau, Miel de Bois; Bienaime: Vermeil, Jours Heureux, Buly 1803 Eau Triple Yuzu de Kizo, Chris Collins Citrus Grandis, Caswell Massey Orchid, Headspace: Absinthe, Tubereuse, Genievre, Myrrhe; Nobile 1942: La Stanza Delle Bambole, Il Giardino Delle Delizie; Serge Lutens La Vierge de Fer, Diptyque Benjoin Boheme, Frederic Malle Musc Ravageur, Serge Lutens Ambre Sultan, Cartier Pur Magnolia, YSL: Babycat, Jumpsuit; Guerlain Aqua Allegoria Nerolia Vetiver, 4711, Chanel Paris Paris, Lancome La Vie Est Belle Iris Absolu
REGISTER FOR SMELL CLUB: https://tinyurl.com/n0ses
SHOP THIS EPISODE: https://shopmy.us/collections/183000
SUPPORT OUR SPONSOR BDK PARFUMS <3
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May 23, 2023 • 1h 3min
97. The Fragrance That Went to OuterSpace (w/ Olfactive Artist Eva Petrič)
How would you describe the smell of Earth (and Earthlings) to someone who's never been? Today I chat with olfactive artist Eva Petrič, whose line of fragrances are meant to do just that. Each scent bottles a different fragrant aspect of life on Earth and the humans who inhabit it. And sure, we [Earthlings] can buy them at Bergdorf's, but these fragrances are not meant solely for our consumption; they're messages in a bottle meant for whoever discovers them...in whichever galaxy that may be. In fact, Eva's fragrance Message from Earth was quite literally... SENT TO OUTERSPACE.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Caswell Massey Orchid, La Perla Once Upon a Garden, Headspace Absinthe, Thierry Mugler, DBE: Angel Hound, Message From Earth, Empathy, Curiosity, Moon H20
Follow Eva: @eva_petric_angel_hound
Shop DBE: Bergdorfgoodman.com
Read more: dbe528.com
~Special thanks to our sponsor BDK Parfums!~
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May 16, 2023 • 1h 6min
96. No, Not Everything Smells Like Baccarat (w/ Fragrance Specialist & Personality Travaulya Wallace)
Travaulya Wallace is BACK in the Perfume Room today! You may remember her from Perfume Room LIVE or perhaps you are one of her 238K TikTok followers(!), or maybe, you’ve even shopped with her at Nordstrom where she is a Fragrance Specialist providing her clients with the ultimate personalized fragrance experiences. Today, Travaulya and I chat about everything from scent preferences that make us think twice, to why Aquarius’ are misunderstood (and the scents they should be wearing), to the difference between a ‘Don’t Hug Me’ scent vs. a ‘Leave Me Alone’ scent (because they are indeed quite different), and of course, the delicate balance between intuition and knowledge when it comes to fragrance consulting.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
La Perla: Once Upon A Garden, My Day, Possibilities; Tom Ford: Electric Cherry, Lost Cherry; BDK Rouge Smoke, Tom Ford Cherry Smoke, Creed Aventus For Him, Baccarat Rouge 540, Allsaints Sunset Riot, Burberry Her, Ariana Grande Cloud, Parfums de Marly Haltane, Maison Margiela Coffee Break, Frederic Malle Portrait of a Lady, Henry Rose Dark Is Night, Parfum de Marly Valaya, Tom Ford Fu*king Fabulous, Coty Ex'cla-ma'tion!, Tommy Hilfiger Tommy Girl, D&G Pour Homme, Curve for Men, Issey Miyake, JPG Le Male, Victoria Secret Love Spell, Clinique Aromatics Elixir, Miss Dior, Egyptian Musk, Byredo: Vanille Antique, Rose of No Man’s Land; Amouage Reflection, Aerin: Cedar Violet, Fleur de Peony; Jo Malone Peony Blush Suede, Tom Ford Black Orchid, Creed Love in White, Dior Oud Ispahan, Floral Street Arizona Bloom, YSL Tuxedo, Malin & Goetz Dark Rum, Replica Jazz Club, Diptyque Orpheon, MFK: Gentle Fluidity Silver, Gentle Fluidity Gold; Tom Ford Oud Wood, The Phluid Project Transcend, Jimmy Choo I Want Choo, Givenchy L’Interdit, Diptyque Fleur de Peau, Le Labo Santal 33, Jo Malone Silver Birch & Lavender, Tiffany & Love For Her, Clinique Happy, Byredo Mojave Ghost, Parfums de Marly Valaya
FOLLOW TRAVAULYA: @travaulyawallace
FOLLOW PERFUME ROOM: @perfumeroodpod (IG) @emma_vern (TikTok)
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May 9, 2023 • 1h 14min
95. Only [Fragrance] Fools Rush In (w/ Roja Parfums Creator Roja Dove)
Perfume Legend Roja Dove is in the Perfume Room today! Creator of the first Haute Parfumerie, Founder and Perfumer of the ever-luxurious Roja Parfums, Chairman of the Fragrance Foundation UK, and Culture Ambassador for Great Britain, it seems that all Roja touches turns to gold (in fact, you can find gold flakes in his signature scent ;)).
Today he takes us back to his earliest scent memories, recounts multiple pivotal moments in his lifelong fragrance career (a career which he fondly recalls having ‘pestered’ his way into), and shares why we must be willing to flirt [with perfumes] until we find our perfect match. We discuss what makes Roja Parfums so special (including why some carry larger price tags than others), AND Roja even leaves us with a life-changing hot take: SPOILER ALERT — it involves lotion.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
La Perla: Once Upon a Garden, My Day; Roja Parfums: Roja (Haute Luxe), Chypre Extraordinaire, Coty L’Aimant, Balenciaga Eau de Balenciage Lavande, Caron Pour un Homme, Guerlain: Jicky, L’Heure Bleue, Mitsouko; Chanel No. 5, Dior Miss Dior, Hermes Caleche, Rochas Madame Rochas, Hermes Equipage, Amouage Gold, Pierre Balmain Ivoire de Balmain, Coty La Rose Jacqueminot, Dior: Diorama, Diorling, Eau Fraiche; Houbigant Quelques Fleurs, Roja Parfums: A Good Night Kiss, Apex, Elysium Eau Intense, Isola Blu, Vetiver, Risque
FOLLOW: @rojaparfums @rojadove
SHOP ROJA PARFUMS: twistedlily.com
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(if you're seeing this after June, code PERFUMEROOM10 gets you 10% off all orders)

May 2, 2023 • 60min
94. There are no bad smells (w/ ISIPCA Student Yousif Saleh)
If you’ve ever wondered about the path to becoming a perfumer, this episode is for you! ISIPCA Student Yousif Saleh is parlaying his chemistry degree, love of fragrance, and background as both a drag artist and sommelier into the most logical career: PERFUMERY. Halfway through ISIPCA’s curriculum, Yousif is *in the thick of it* and shares everything from daily life as a student in Paris, to the fragrances that shaped him, his tips and tricks for memorizing raw materials, and how there is no such thing as bad perfumes.
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Diptyque Orpheon, Frederic Malle Iris Poudre, Ourside Dusk, Calvin Klein Euphoria, Issey Miyake L’Eau D’Issey, Phlur Tangerine Boy, Liquides Imaginaires: Fleur de Sable, Belle Bete, Fleuve Tendre; Nasomatto Sadonaso, Mugler A*Men Pure Tonka, Givenchy Pour Homme, Joop Homme, Serge Lutens: Filles en Aiguilles, Santal Majuscule; Frederic Malle Portrait of a Lady, Dior Oud Ispahan, Guerlain Santal Royal, Celine Reptile, Marc Jacobs Daisy, Jo Malone Pomegranate Noir, Gucci Guilty, Paco Rabanne Invictus, Tom Ford Black Orchid, Le Labo The Noir 29, Ourside Dusk, Bulgari Extreme, ELdO Experimentum Crucis, Narciso For Her, Serge Lutens Jeux de Peau, JPG Le Male, YSL Kouros
SHOP THIS EPISODE: https://shopmy.us/collections/163111
FOLLOW: @youee
SUPPORT OUR SPONSOR: twistedlily.com
'PERFUMEROOM' for $25 off orders over $100 (valid thru June)
MY TWISTED LILY FAVORITES: https://shopmy.us/collections/27365
(if you're seeing this after June, code PERFUMEROOM10 gets you 10% off all orders)

Apr 25, 2023 • 1h 1min
93. A Conversation Between Founder and Perfumer (w/ Ourside’s Keta Burke-Williams and Delbia Do's Darryl Do)
Very special episode today!! You often hear about the founder/perfumer collaboration process, but rarely do you get an inner-glimpse of it. Today, you do! I am joined by the Founder AND the Perfumer of one of my favorite-ever brands: Ourside! (Yes, that brand I won't stop talking about...) Ourside is a small-batch, luxury, ingredient-conscious, Black-owned brand, and is one of the ONLY brands that can truly claim being entirely NYC-based. From idea to bottle, every aspect of these scents is hand-crafted in the Big Apple. Ya, I just wrote big apple in a podcast description - what about it?
I chat with Founder Keta Burke-Williams (HBS grad turned fragrance entrepreneur) and Perfumer Darryl Do (a 2nd-gen perfumer in his family's fragrance and flavor manufacturing house, Delbia Do) all about their collaboration process. This ep feels like a VIP pass to a rarely-publicized conversation. And if you haven't heard Keta's and my first conversation, go listen to EPISODE 8! <3
FRAGS MENTIONED:
L’Objet Oh Mon Dieu, Frederic Malle Lipstick Rose, Balenciaga Balenciaga, Ourside Dusk, Chanel No. 5, Ourside Nostalgia, Hollister, Axe, TAG, Ourside Moon Dust
FOLLOW: @ourside.nyc @senseidarryl
SHOP: ourside.nyc
SUPPORT OUR SPONSOR: twistedlily.com
'PERFUMEROOM' for $25 off orders over $100 (valid thru June)
SHOP MY FAVORITES: https://shopmy.us/collections/27365
(if you're seeing this after June, code PERFUMEROOM10 gets you 10% off all orders)

Apr 18, 2023 • 48min
92. Your Favorite Fragrance Family (no, not that kind) (w/ BDK Founder David Benedek)
BDK Founder David Benedek is in the Perfume Room today! We chat about everything from the BDK Parfums signature—that common thread/secret note(s) you might find in every scent, to growing up in the fragrance world, to what’s most played on David’s Spotify right now. David discusses the journey/evolution of creating BDK and the friends and family that shaped him & the brand along the way. And of course, you’ll hear a sneak preview from David of some of the newness we can look forward to in the coming year ;)
FRAGS MENTIONED:
Sol Janeiro Beija Flor, BR 540, Burberry Her, BDK: Gris Charnel, Villa Neroli; Chanel Allure Sensuelle, Lanvin Arpege, Chanel: No 5, No 19; Saint Laurent Rive Gauche, BDK: Bouquet de Hongrie, French Bouquet, Pas Ce Soir, Tubéreuse Imperiale, Oud Abramad, Wood Jasmin, Gris charnel, Creme de Cuir, Velvet Tonka, Citrus Riviera, Sel D’Argent, Rouge Smoking; Chanel Chance Eau Tendre, Bleu de Chanel, Frederic Malle Musc Ravageur, BDK: Gris Charnel Extrait, Ciel Rose
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Apr 11, 2023 • 26min
91. My Go-To Spring Scents, The Weirdest Perfume I've Ever Smelled, Scented Products I Can't Quit, & More! (a solo episode)
Oooo ooo ooo - it's an all new solo ep this week, and I am answering your burning Qs including:
what I am wearing this spring
niche fragrances exciting me right now
April Smell Club deets!
‘funny’ stories from my childhood (that double as tRaUma)
the conditioner that saved my hair
the body oil I can't quit
work scent etiquette and my work scent picks
the weirdest fragrance I’ve smelled to date
fragrances I think the Love Is Blind S4 cast wears
FRAGS/PRODUCTS MENTIONED:
Phlur Tangerine Boy, Maison Crivelli Citrus Batikanga, Matiere Premiere Cologne Cedrat, Chris Collins Citrus Grandis, Houbigant Figuier Noir, Perfumehead, DBE, Penhaligon’s Juniper Sling, Narciso Pure Musc, Garnier Fructise Pure Clean Shampoo, L’Oreal Paris Absolut Repair Lipidium conditioner, By Rosie Jane Calm the Fu*k Down Body Wash and Oil, Costa Brazil Kaya Jungle Firming Oil, Aquatru water filter, YSL Black Opium, Dior Sauvage, Montblanc Explorer, Terre d’Hermes, YSL La Nuit de l'Homme, Pink Sugar Aquolina, Le Labo Santal 33, MFK BR 540, Byredo Bal d’Afrique, Bleu de Chanel, YSL Libre, Chanel Gabrielle, Lancome La Vie Est Belle, Guerlain Mon Guerlain, Burberry Hero, Men's speedstick, Thameen Fanfare, Frederic Malle Eau de Magnolia, Tom Ford Jasmin Rouge, Mizensir Solar Blossom, By Kilian Love Don’t Be Shy, BDK Parfums Villa Neroli, ILK Sincere, Masque Milano Lost Alice, ILK Human, Umema, Jorum Studio Firewater, Trimerous, Pentimento, Gorseland, Viktor & Rolf BonBon, Francesca Bianchi Sticky Fingers, La Perla My Day
SHOP THIS EPISODE: https://shopmy.us/collections/149590
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