
The Gist
For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
Latest episodes

Nov 21, 2024 • 41min
What Does Jay Bhattacharya Want To Do With The NIH?
Dan Diamond, a Washington Post reporter, dives into the controversial views of Jay Bhattacharya, a Stanford professor known for opposing COVID lockdowns. He discusses Bhattacharya's rise to prominence during the pandemic and what his potential new role at the NIH could mean for public health policy. The conversation highlights the backlash against the Great Barrington Declaration and debates on pandemic responses. Diamond also touches on the need for reform within the NIH and the diverse narratives influencing public health discourse.

Nov 20, 2024 • 44min
Parks And Rec, In Effect
Jim O'Heir, known for his role as Jerry (or is it Larry?) on Parks and Recreation, shares insights from his book, highlighting the show's charm and camaraderie. He reminisces about the quirky dynamics on set and details the casting challenges the series faced. The conversation swirls into humorous predictions for Trump’s cabinet, alongside light-hearted chats on friendship and grooming essentials. O'Heir also reflects on the character of Jerry, celebrating both his lovable traits and the playful mockery he received from co-stars.

Nov 19, 2024 • 41min
A Traffic Jam Of Political Malfeasance
Harry Siegel, a seasoned political analyst and columnist, delves into the intricate dance of New York politics. He discusses Governor Hochul's volatile stance on congestion pricing, highlighting the race against an incoming administration. The conversation shifts to global tensions, as Siegel unpacks the implications of U.S. support for Ukraine and Russia's nuclear strategy. Additionally, the dialogue touches on how Democrats can pivot toward more logical positions on trans issues by abandoning flawed narratives. Insightful and engaging!

Nov 18, 2024 • 48min
Ol' Doc Flugelhorn'll Heal You Right Up
Dan Levitin, a neuroscientist, record producer, and author of "I Heard There Was a Secret Chord: Music as Medicine," explores the healing power of music. He discusses the scientific connections between neuroscience and music therapy, revealing how music can impact mental health and social bonding through neurochemicals. Additionally, Levitin delves into music's historical significance in healing, its dual nature as both therapeutic and weaponized, and the importance of rigorous research in bridging music and medicine.

Nov 16, 2024 • 47min
BEST OF THE GIST: TCB Edition
Dive into a lively chat about the ups and downs of contemporary life, complete with humor and practical tips. The discussion shifts from the addictive nature of vaping to the complexities of baldness and recent election outcomes, wrapped in funny anecdotes. Explore how comedians serve as crucial social commentators, mixing laughter with deeper insights. Additionally, laugh along with a nostalgic look at social media platforms, and reflect on the resilience of democracy amidst current challenges.

Nov 15, 2024 • 1h 3min
Funny You Should Mention - Episode 4 Django Gold
Django Gold, a witty stand-up comedian and former writer for The Late Show With Stephen Colbert, shares his unique comedic insights. He discusses balancing audience expectations with his quirky humor, touching on the evolution of geek culture and masculinity. With hilarious anecdotes about non-coolness and societal norms, Django highlights the comedy of everyday life, from scissors to political chaos. He also reflects on aging and authenticity in performance, offering a whimsical yet insightful take on the nuances of comedy and identity.

Nov 14, 2024 • 43min
Gaetz Rates As Latest Basket Case
Richard Coffin, Chief Research and Advocacy Officer at USAFacts, shares data-driven insights on government spending and efficiency. They discuss the controversial nomination of Matt Gaetz for Attorney General and the polarized reactions it has sparked. Coffin emphasizes the importance of trustworthy data in democracy, as well as the complexities of discretionary spending and military expenditures. The conversation touches on the Democratic Party's bureaucratic nature, likening it to an HR department, and critiques its disconnect from voters.

Nov 13, 2024 • 48min
Hegseth In Over His Head
Ben Wittes, Editor-in-chief of Lawfare and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, dives into the challenges facing Peter Hegseth as Trump’s pick for Secretary of Defense. The conversation navigates the complexities of military leadership and the implications of ongoing political investigations. Wittes also sheds light on the troubling incidents involving Israeli soccer fans in Amsterdam, discussing the interplay of identity and violence. With sharp insights into the legal landscape, this is a thought-provoking listen for anyone interested in politics and law.

Nov 12, 2024 • 35min
Lock Em Up: from Threat to Truth
Ben Wittes, Editor-in-Chief of Lawfare and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, dives into the political and legal turmoil surrounding Donald Trump. He discusses the implications of Trump's threats of prosecution against political figures, particularly addressing the unique challenges of prosecuting a former president. The conversation also touches on election counting frustrations in California and the accountability of public officials in national security. Wittes navigates the intersection of local threats and national politics with keen insight.

Nov 11, 2024 • 39min
The Chicken Beer And Video Game Phase
Vic Michaelis, a comic actress and improviser from the hit Dropout TV show "Very Important People," joins the conversation to dive into the art of transformative comedy. They discuss the creative processes of comedic character transformations, the impact of makeup and effects, and how humor intersects with modern media. Vic also shares her journey in the comedy scene, highlighting the balance between ambition and the pressures of success, along with some delightful musings on dumplings. A humorous exploration of identity and creativity awaits!