
The Gist
For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
Latest episodes

Dec 14, 2024 • 36min
BEST OF THE GIST: Tight Edition vs Loose Edition
Michele Gelfand, a cultural psychologist and author of "Rule Makers, Rule Breakers," joins to discuss her groundbreaking theory on cultural tightness and looseness. She breaks down how societies can be classified along this spectrum and the implications for behavior and rule enforcement. Gelfand sheds light on why some cultures prioritize order, especially in times of chaos, and examines how various factors influence these cultural dynamics. The conversation also touches on the recent verdict in the controversial Daniel Penny trial, unpacking the polarized narratives surrounding it.

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Dec 13, 2024 • 1h 10min
Funny You Should Mention - Episode 6 Roy Wood Jr.
Roy Wood Jr., a sharp-witted comedian and host of CNN’s Have I Got News for You, shares his unique insights on the interplay between comedy and politics. He humorously recounts a near-DUI incident in South Dakota while advocating for comedians to challenge harmful political ideas. Roy delves into the complexities of societal issues, suggesting that sometimes, letting a criminal go is preferable. With a twist, he highlights life lessons from floating balls of ants, proving that even amidst jokes, there's profound reflection.

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Dec 12, 2024 • 45min
Luigi Mangione, Daniel Penny, And Jordan Neely
Shadi Hamid, a Washington Post columnist and author, returns to discuss pressing issues surrounding recent acts of violence and their implications. He explores the intersection of mental illness and homelessness, advocating for urgent systemic reforms in New York City. The conversation shifts to the moral complexities of the Israel-Hamas conflict, addressing military strategies and humanitarian concerns. Hamid also critiques U.S. healthcare debates and the inefficiencies of public systems, illuminating the nuanced challenges in American society amidst political inertia.

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Dec 11, 2024 • 34min
Shadi Hamid Assesses Israel's Tactics
Shadi Hamid, a Washington Post columnist and co-host of the 'Wisdom of Crowds' podcast, dives into Israel's military tactics and their complex ethical dimensions. He questions America's approach to warfare compared to Israel's strategies and discusses the significant military operation against Bashar al-Assad's chemical weapons. Hamid also sheds light on Nauru's political maneuvers, opting for alliances with Australia over China, offering an intriguing perspective on international relations in the Pacific.

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Dec 10, 2024 • 37min
Daniel Penny Did Not Lynch Anyone
Dave Daley, a Senior fellow at FairVote and author of "Rat Fucked," joins to tackle the implications of ranked choice voting in U.S. elections. He discusses its successes in cities like Alaska and Colorado, revealing the tension with established political parties. The conversation also dives into the significant case of Jordan Neely and the use of the term 'lynching,' exploring its contextual relevance today. Daley provides thoughtful insights into voter reactions and the ongoing challenges of electoral reform.

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Dec 9, 2024 • 52min
Kevin From The Office Tells The Story Of Christmas At Dunder Mifflin
Join Brian Baumgartner, best known as Kevin Malone from The Office, and Ben Silverman, the show's executive producer, as they explore the intriguing geopolitical shifts following Bashar al-Assad's exit from Syria. They discuss the potential for democracy in the region, the complexities of foreign policy, and the adaptability of Syrian rebel forces compared to rigid groups like ISIS. Also, enjoy a playful chat about their new illustrated book, The Night Before Christmas at Dunder Mifflin, filled with anecdotes and nostalgia from their iconic sitcom days.

Dec 7, 2024 • 39min
BEST OF THE GIST: Award Winning Edition
In this enlightening conversation, Jason De Leon, a UCLA professor and MacArthur Genius grant recipient, delves into his award-winning book, "Soldiers and Kings." He shares poignant stories about the struggles of individuals caught in human smuggling and highlights the importance of empathy amid the chaos. The discussion also touches on immigration politics and the historical ties between the U.S. and Honduras. Additionally, the episode critiques contemporary political campaigning, emphasizing the need for substance over emotional appeal.

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Dec 6, 2024 • 1h 1min
Not Even Mad: The Pardon And The Parsing
Liz Wolfe, Editor at Reason Magazine, and Michael A. Cohen, MSNBC columnist, delve into the controversial pardon of Hunter Biden. They engage in a lively discussion about the Democrats' recent electoral struggles, analyzing external factors affecting voter behavior. The conversation touches on the implications of political family dynamics and the ethics of legal accountability. On a lighter note, they muse over societal pressures on aging women, with Pamela Anderson as a focal point, and debate the curious quirks of Daylight Saving Time.

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Dec 6, 2024 • 33min
IS THAT Bulls**t IS BACK
Sadie Dingfelder, a science writer known for her exploration of face blindness in her book "Do I Know You?", joins the discussion with sharp wit. She debunks the myth of pets and final meals, swinging from hilarious anecdotes about hairless cats to surprisingly dark tales of dogs and cannibalism. The conversation dives into AI's impact on originality, the intriguing quirks of pets, and a nostalgic look at fact-checking, all while wrapping up with a critique of media's shift from serious to absurd in the world of consumerism.

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Dec 4, 2024 • 36min
Who To Root For In Syria?
The podcast dives into the murky waters of the Syrian conflict, dissecting the controversial factions vying for power. It raises tough questions about U.S. involvement and the complexities of supporting either regime or rebels. An intriguing conversation with Ben Rhodes sheds light on foreign policy intricacies. Additionally, the discussion critiques media portrayals of political figures, particularly exploring vulnerabilities in their narratives. A thought-provoking blend of geopolitics and media analysis keeps listeners engaged.