
The Gist
For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
Latest episodes

Jan 18, 2025 • 24min
BEST OF THE GIST: Wildfire Edition
This engaging discussion dives into the impact of wildfires on the ongoing climate change conversation. It highlights how Canadian wildfires have shifted perceptions, even when their direct links to climate change are uncertain. The conversation also critically examines the decision-making behind emergency responses, particularly regarding Maui's tragedy, revealing the intricate balance between policy and public safety. These narratives reveal the challenges faced in communicating climate risks and fostering accountability in crisis management.

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Jan 17, 2025 • 42min
Your Burning Fire Questions Answered
Clare Frank, a fire service veteran and author of 'Burnt,' brings over 30 years of experience to the conversation. She tackles pressing questions about fire prevention strategies and community rebuilding efforts in L.A. High winds and severe weather conditions pose significant challenges for firefighters, which she vividly details. Frank also discusses the need for stricter fire safety regulations and a new mindset toward disaster recovery, emphasizing a holistic approach to urban planning and fire management.

Jan 16, 2025 • 43min
In Defense of Partisanship
Julian Zelizer, a Princeton professor and CNN political analyst, champions the idea that partisanship, often seen as negative, can actually enhance political efficiency. He dives into the complexities of humanitarian issues linked to hostage exchanges and critiques current bipartisan struggles. Zelizer also reflects on the historical evolution of partisanship, especially since the Gingrich era, and discusses the growing influence of oligarchs on democracy, highlighting billionaire rivalries that shape political landscapes.

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Jan 15, 2025 • 45min
Fluoride Is Getting Dangerous: Is That BS?
In this episode, Sadie Dingfelder, author and fluoride expert, dives into the contentious debate surrounding fluoridation in U.S. water supplies. She unpacks the historical context of dental health and fluoride's role in combating cavities, as well as the alarming claims about its impact on IQ, particularly in children. The conversation playfully intertwines conspiracy theories with serious health implications, challenging popular beliefs while shedding light on the complexities of public health guidelines. Simple truths and hidden dangers collide!

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Jan 14, 2025 • 33min
No Holding Down Hegseth
In a deep dive with Sir John Kay, an Oxford professor and author of 'The Corporation in the Twenty-First Century', they explore the flaws in modern corporate ethics and the urgent need for a balance between profit and social responsibility. Kay critiques the evolving definition of capital, emphasizing the rise of intellectual capabilities over tangible assets. The conversation also touches on youth perceptions of capitalism, celebrity wealth, and how these elements intertwine with public sentiment towards leaders like Pete Hegseth amid political controversy.

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Jan 13, 2025 • 37min
L.A. Fires: The Cost and the Climate
John Kay, an Oxford professor, Financial Times columnist, and author known for dissecting modern business practices, dives into the devastating wildfires in Los Angeles. He highlights the intertwining of climate change with rising disaster costs, claiming the damage rivals global calamities. Kay examines the pharmaceutical industry’s shift from innovation to profit, critiquing the erosion of ethical standards. Reflecting on a healthcare executive's assassination, he underscores the industry's fall from grace and poses crucial questions about corporate responsibility amid these crises.

Jan 11, 2025 • 16min
BEST OF THE GIST: Greenland Edition
Dive into the twists of political fascination with Greenland, sparked by Trump's past musings. Reflect on the amusing reality of New Year’s resolutions and their often unrealistic nature. Explore how geography shapes our perceptions, especially the allure of big ideas like acquiring Greenland. Laugh along as the podcast discusses Greenland's unique crown update, shifting from a crown to a polar bear, and what that says about global politics and resource value in this frosty territory.

Jan 10, 2025 • 43min
The Apocalypse Musical
Joshua Oppenheimer, the Oscar-nominated filmmaker behind impactful documentaries, discusses his latest project, an apocalypse musical featuring Tilda Swinton. He delves into the existential themes and societal reflections woven into the film, emphasizing its relevance in today’s climate crisis. Megan Down shares her poignant story of loss after her home was destroyed in the Southern California fires, highlighting the emotional and financial struggles of affected families. The conversation also touches on the complexities of free speech and the media’s handling of political rhetoric.

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Jan 9, 2025 • 56min
Fact Check: Meta Goes Fact-Less
In this discussion, Kate Klonick, a law professor at St. John's University, examines Meta's decision to eliminate fact-checking on Facebook and Instagram. She argues that the prior system was already ineffective and questions the potential negative impacts on public trust. The conversation also covers the media's sensationalist portrayal of California's wildfires and critiques the political manipulation surrounding diversity initiatives. Klonick explores the nuanced challenges of social media governance and the complexities of misinformation and content moderation.

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Jan 8, 2025 • 36min
Trudeau Virtue-Signaled Himself Out of Office
This week’s guest is Stephen Marsh, a Canadian journalist and author known for his critical insights into politics and his work "The Next Civil War." He discusses how Justin Trudeau’s virtue signaling alienated Canadians and ultimately contributed to his downfall. Marsh delves into the issues of medical debt being cleared from credit ratings, critiquing the ethics behind credit scoring. The conversation also touches on the challenges of modern leadership amid shifting political landscapes, including the influence of Trumpism in Canada.